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The Impending IP Crisis

Factomatic writes "With the supply of IP addresses expected to run out by 2005 due to the popularity explosion of the Internet and the expectation that everything from your phone to your washing machine will soon have its own IP address, Alex Lightman, CEO of Charmed Technology and chairman of last month's North American IPv6 Global Summit tells the New York Times "we're going to need something like 100 IP addresses for each human being." IPv6 will increase the supply of addresses from 4 billion today to a number in excess of 35 trillion that is "so big that there's not a word for the number," says Cody Christman, director of product engineering for Verio, which offers IPv6 in San Francisco, Washington and elsewhere. The article is a good layman's backgrounder on the looming IP crisis."

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  1. Jeez... by TopShelf · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who needs a new word to describe the number of possible addresses? It's just 1/2.9387358770557187699218413430556e+61st of a google.

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    1. Re:Jeez... by Anonym1ty · · Score: 5, Funny

      Isn't the number a googol? and the search engine google?

  2. Imagine the uses by zubernerd · · Score: 5, Funny

    To quote the article "Such sensors could allow people to operate devices from anywhere there is an Internet connection." and "Now that the address space is available, the next step is figuring out how to use it."
    I've got an idea, a internet connected toilet. "Using a cellphone in Los Angeles", I could flush the toilet at my home remotely and have the toilet seat drop down automatically (you know, to keep domestic tranquility). I could even call the toilet to see if anyone is using it.
    I better go patent it...

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    1. Re:Imagine the uses by General_Corto · · Score: 5, Funny

      Fine, but I'm going to patent the Denial Of Sewage attack. Toilet blockages, here we come!

    2. Re:Imagine the uses by PhilHibbs · · Score: 5, Funny
      Fine, but I'm going to patent the Denial Of Sewage attack.
      Otherwise known as the Flushdot Effect
  3. Bigger numbers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    IPv6 will increase the supply of addresses from 4 billion today to a number in excess of 35 trillion that is "so big that there's not a word for the number,"

    how about "thirty six trillion" ?

    1. Re:Bigger numbers. by leshert · · Score: 5, Funny

      You forgot to put your pinky up to your lips.

    2. Re:Bigger numbers. by frankthechicken · · Score: 3, Funny

      That K1 kid just gave up too easily, I'm pretty sure the usual arguments ran until the expected final twist of the sword,

      "Oh yeah, well my dad is as strong as INFINITY neanderthals!" And the reply of

      "That's nothing, my dad is as strong as INFINTY PLUS ONE neanderthals"

      Which is where I tended to get beaten up as I tried to explain the general stupidity of the concept expressed, usually compounded by my rection to their statement of

      "I'm a gonna give you an INFINITY PLUS ONE amount of beatings boy"

    3. Re:Bigger numbers. by Detritus · · Score: 3, Funny
      You should have said:

      "That's nothing, my dad is as strong as Aleph One Neanderthals"

      I read too many math books when I was a child.

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  4. New security implications... by southpolesammy · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder how long it will be before we have a washing machine buffer overflow...

    Apartment dwellers below the afflicted system should take precautions now....

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  5. Re:more than 35 trillion per square meter of Earth by Surak · · Score: 4, Funny

    The number of IP addresses IP6 will allow is truely astronomical, 6.65x10^23 addresses for every square

    Heh. Reminds of a REALLY old joke: For a good time call Avogadro 6.022*10^23!

    Ha! I kill me! I'll be here all week.

  6. Re:Duplicate story... by inertia187 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The things we think of as futuristic always changes by the time that date gets here. "Where's my flying car?" I asked my grandmother what she thought was "futuristic" when she was a kid. She told me that everything would be attached to those scissors things that extend. She and I didn't know what they were called. Back then, some phones would be attached to the wall with this invention, and it was super high tech for the day. Her idea of futuristic was to have everything in the kitchen on this rig. Coffee maker, spice rack, everything.

    Now, had they actually made a kitchen with this device, she would have seen how ridiculous it was.

    Just because Bill Gates thought the idea of IP addresses assigned to everyone and everything doesn't mean it was a good idea.

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  7. Re:What's wrong with IPv6 by funkman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Damn short sighted engineers! Who would have thought we'd have more than 4 billion networked devices over 20 years ago!

  8. Re:Imminent death of IPv4 predicted!! by Ian+Jefferies · · Score: 3, Funny

    Okay, that was a bit of a ramblin' rant, but this really pisses me off. I'm tired of hearing how we're running out of addresses when the simple solution is to stop friggin' using them!

    Would the last person to leave the Internet please turn off the routers?

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  9. Re:Imminent death of IPv4 predicted!! by aldoman · · Score: 3, Funny

    Uh, this would break a lot of other stuff aswell.

    IM file transfers : broke
    Video Confrencing: broke
    voice over IP: broke
    host a game (on xbox live for example): broke

    now, i dont know about you but most of the people do one of the above things regually. IM has latley became the killer app of the internet (for the younger people).

    This would reduce the internet to one way communication - something that I dont want.

  10. Re:more than 35 trillion per square meter of Earth by PKFC · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pardon me. The ACTUAL number is:
    Three hundred forty undecillion two hundred eight-two decillion three hundred sixty-six nonillion nine hundred twenty octillion nine hundred thirty-eight septillion four hundred sixty-three sextillion four hundred sixty-three quintillion three hundred seventy-four quadrillion six hundred seven trillion four hundred thirty-one billion seven hundred sixty-eight million two hundred eleven thousand four hundred fifty-six.

    Or just: 340 282 366 920 938 463 463 374 607 431 768 211 456

  11. Remote toilet interrogation by marnanel · · Score: 4, Funny

    I could even call the toilet to see if anyone is using it.

    MIT got there first: http, finger.

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  12. Apologies to the artist formerly known as Prince.. by freeze128 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm gonna subnet like it's 255.255.255.254.

  13. Re:Imminent death of IPv4 predicted!! by Electrum · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can already see the call to tech support..

    customer "My web server/P2P/Warez FTP/etc doesn't work now that you changed my account to use a private IP."


    Customer: "Why can't I play games online anymore?"

    Consider an RTS game such as Starcraft. If you and your friend both have a private IP, you can't play. NAT is not a good solution.

  14. Come and get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    And EDU's too. There are many universities with many tens of thousands of IP addresses, most of which are unused. One I know of has at least one class A...

    That would be us here at MIT. And you can pry it out of our cold dead hands.

  15. Re:Imminent death of IPv4 predicted!! by tez_h · · Score: 4, Funny
    As a CS professor of mine once said, "In theory, theory and practice are the same; in practice, they are not."

    Abuse! Abuse!
    I mean, this could go on forever:

    Poster1(p1): "The word 'theory', in practice, has more meanings than in theory."

    Poster2(p2): "Yes but theory and practice are closer in theory than in practice."

    p1: "I don't want to read your theory about practice; practise your theories!"

    p2: "Bah! Your theory and practice only hold together in theory, not practice."

    p1: "What?! Shove this practice into your theory!"

    p2: "Oh yeah, theory this!"

    p1: "You short, mustachioed, german, national-socialist pig!"

    p2: "Godwin's law! Godwin's law!"

    etc, etc, etc.

    <yawn>

    -Tez

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