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Mozilla 1.5 Alpha Available
An anonymous reader writes "Mozilla.org released Mozilla v1.5 alpha today, with flavors available for Linux,
Mac OS X, and Windows. Some of the new features include Composer enhancements, Chatzilla logging, multiple tab window closing confirmation, and quicksearch support in about:config. A more detailed rough changelog is also available. In a somewhat related note, Mozilla 1.4 has been downloaded over a half million times in the past 3 weeks (not counting mirrors)."
Quicksearching in about:config was a much-needed feature. I always had trouble locating stuff in there, especially when I didn't know exactly what it was named.
tell me about it... I thought Firebird and Thunderbird was supposed to be integrated into 1.5a. That sucks. I guess we'll have to wait until 1.6.
I'd like to see Mozilla getting leaner with each release.
And stop with the features already.
Safari is where it is at anyway.
Has the Mozilla crew ever thought of quit making the browser as one giant, bloated super-applicaton and separate all the components into distinct, different programs in the spirit of IE/Outlook/FrontPage as well as Safari/Mail/iCal?
I know Firebird/Thunderbird/Dodobird exist but they seem like separate distinct projects, and the apps are definitely not as stable as stock Moz; trust me, I've used em all.
I mean, does my web browser REALLY need an IRC client?!
At this rate, Moz 1.6 will have an included oral sex plugin.
I think the Mozilla developers have been doing an excellent job lately, especially with respect to choreographing releases with future development needs. --- the switch-over to Firebird could have been disasterous or annoying, but it's been smooth.
add it to their cd's so people can get a feel for it ?
I see Mozilla news almost daily on Slashdot but where's the Opera news? Every small release of Mozilla however unimportant gets mentioned but not even the biggest Opera news gets mentioned. Opera doesn't even have it's own news Icon here on Slashdot. We should demand more Opera news because Opera 7.2 beta 2 came out today and I must say it's the best Opera ever (much better than that memory hogging vile beast of a pig Mozilla). Although no Linux version of beta 2 is out yet, only Windows, it is still news worthy of being on Slashdot. Here's the news announcement and heres some forums to talk about the new beta.
....could it be because every other Linux distribution includes Mozilla browser?
$cat
I don't know if I'm the only out there who's noticed, but, Firebird development has slowed considerably with all the Mozilla fuss. The next FB milestone (0.7 Indio) is going to be late almost two months in a few days. Meanwhile we've had the Mozilla 1.4 RC1, RC2, Final and 1.5 Alpha come out.
CVS checkins to the Firebird suite have also lagged behind. Personally, I would like to see FB development accelerated instead of put on the back burner.
Besides, IE7 comes with longhorn
Yeah, I'm sure we'll se ASSLOADS of innovation from IE7. Like "a send a DRM report to Microsoft" button added, along with a few other "enhancements" 99% of the population would find useless and annoying like the pop up image toolbar. Well I'm half joking, but MS isn't going to innovate until they see some sort of serious threat, and as it stands now, I doubt they'll make any significant improvements.
I think the "browser wars" are probably over. It's not really about browsers anymore as they're practically considered essential OS components. Mozilla probably will play a key role in spearheading the Linux movement, along with providing a good open source cross platform browser across many different venues.
Hah!
I use Solaris a lot, and Linux a bit. Mozilla is on both of those platforms.
But Windows--Oh man, it's nice to have a really GOOD broswer on the universal de facto platform. Given that Windows is a toy to begin with (no insult intended--I use it for games, and nothing else), why would you NOT want to have the best browser on it?
OK, look at it another way: If 99% of the Linux people used Mozilla (an exaggeration, I'm sure) and 0.5% of the Windows market used it, then which group would account for more browser downloads?
(Hint: The answer is Windows)
At any rate, I know a lot of people--100% pure Windows users--who are quite happy about having Mozilla. Tabbed browsing and pop-up blocking is a boon.
"People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
I think you may be underestimating the innovation behind some of these alternate browsers. IE is just not keeping up. I have a seriously hard time using it anymore. Features like tabbed browsing and mouse gestures are now an itegral part of my browsing experience. They almost feel like...essential OS components.
> If 99% of the Linux people used Mozilla (an exaggeration, I'm sure) and 0.5% of the Windows market used it, then which group would account for more browser downloads?
> (Hint: The answer is Windows)
Certainly, since most dists of Linux these days seem to *come with* Moz. Only Windows users would h=not have it and have to download it.
if the answer isn't violence, neither is your silence / freedom of expression doesn't make it alright
Wow imagine that. A browser to make surfing easier and more pleasant for you. As opposed to a browser whose main purpose is to make you load MSN 50 times a day so they can sell more advetising.
War is necrophilia.
tag! This is a joke I presume ? The dropdown menu in the formatting toolbar can transform the current block-level containers of the selection into paragraphs. It has always been here.
MS is going to innovate in adding propietary extensions when and where they can. Get ready for IE7 to introduce amazing technologies for people to use that will just happen to need a Windows server at the other end.
This has been tried already but now they're clearly in a position to start levaraging this with the browser wars well and truly over.
I was thinking the same thing. Apparently that was the plan but they have been forced to change things (perhaps due to the Netscape break).
:-)
You imagine we didn't see that coming?
it appears that they were forced to make the change and only sort of let it be known
Not really. Admittedly, this change could have done with being posted elsewhere as well, but there's no conspiracy or coverup. The roadmap just changed to reflect reality. I think most people who looked at the issue could have seen that the switchover wasn't going to happen in as aggressive a timescale as we had originally hoped.
Gerv
More of the FUD and the lies.
You know, you can promote your favoutite thingy without resorting to lies, and in the end, you will win much more that way.
Mozilla and IE render pages at about the same speed, depending on the page. I haven't clocked them, but the experience is pretty much the same. Mozilla the application, however is slower than IE the application, for several reasons, among them is the one that MS "cheats" in a way that Mozilla can't, and well Moz is doing a lot more. Plus it gets swapped out often, even if you have memory over.
So, MS cheats, and that sucks, but it doesn't change the facts.
And this is how you are hurting the cause (severly, at that, too): You say to people that Mozilla crashes less and is much faster than IE. They think "woohoo", and try it out. When this proves to not be the case, they will stop using it and never look at it again.
If you wish to promote Mozilla, you should talk about the good things it has that IE hasn't, such as ads blocking and lots of other neat features. If it is geeks you are talking to, standards compliance might be an argument too (though most people don't really care). For some people, the open source argument is quite compelling, and again, som couldn't care less.
But whatever you do, stop lying! I want Mozilla to succeed, and you sir, are not helping! If you can't actually mention the good stuff, then please just shut up instead.