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Next Wave Of Hard Drive Tech: Perpendicular Recording

angrytuna writes "New serial technologies are set to replace standard SCSI and ATA (Advanced Technology Attachment) interfaces over the next two years, even as hard-disk drive manufacturers prepare for an entirely new form of bit storage. Perpendicular recording will replace longitudinal recording in storage devices, placing bits on end instead of lying them parallel on the disc surface, thus dramatically increasing the possible storage density."

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  1. a shame then by toddhunter · · Score: 5, Funny

    that there is such a crackdown on file-sharing. If they take that away from us, then whats the point of having that much space?
    I wonder which side of the debate the hard-disk manufacturers are on?

    1. Re:a shame then by smokeslikeapoet · · Score: 1, Funny

      Hey maybe this will turn them into lawsuit-bait for the RIAA. Urban cities sue the gun manufactures for marketing. States sue "big tobbacco" for health cost. Hillary Rosen should sue Western Digital and Seagate for making me fill my 140 GBs of hard drive space. Can't help myself... must... fill... drives...

    2. Re:a shame then by steve_bryan · · Score: 2, Funny

      I read my reply again to see how condescending it actually was (it wasn't). Are you so thin-skinned that no one can point out errors to you without you taking offense? You misused the term exponential in the same way as almost every newspaper article, TV news program, and just about all of popular culture. But this is slashdot where I would presume there is at least a desire to be technically literate. Instead you just care about your ego so you reply "I meant *exactly* what I said".

      If it will make your ego feel any better, you are just abusing the term in the same way as 90% of the population. Eventually (already?) the preferred definition will be "really big" just like disinterested has been redefined by the majority to be synonymous with uninterested. But in a technical forum exponential will always retain its original meaning. Learn it. Use it correctly. Stop whining. Now that's condescending.

    3. Re:a shame then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Actually, condescension would be properly defined as me walking you up to the blackboard and holding your hand as you wrote the word condescending with an s.

      I love /. and all of the condescension and word-play.

  2. Ahh, now I understand... by inode_buddha · · Score: 5, Funny

    If my drive bit is standing up, it must be hard. Ergo, hard drive.

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    1. Re:Ahh, now I understand... by divide+overflow · · Score: 3, Funny

      >Oh! Haha! A PENIS joke! That was funny!
      >Seriously, though: where did all you sickos come from?


      Apparently you've already forgotten that you are reading Slashdot.

    2. Re:Ahh, now I understand... by Grendol · · Score: 2, Funny

      Lets see, perpendicular storage technology Computer: What is #24 across? Hard Drive: AUTOEXEC.bat Computer: And #17 down? Hard Drive: Control.ini Computer: Well that doesn't make sense. (BSOD)

  3. so just turn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    the hard drive sideways... voila! perpendicular recording ;)

    1. Re:so just turn by tobywan · · Score: 2, Funny

      Stick the 1 bits through the holes in the 0 bits!!! (Patent pending.)

  4. Re:Increased Reliability? by niko9 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am less concerned about the amount of stuff I can put on a hard-drive, and more concerned that the next time I boot up my computer, that stuff will still be there, as harddrives get more and more high-tech, the reliability seems to be taking a big nosedive, how will this effect the reliability of future drives?

    So what your'e saying is: The size of your "hard drive" doesn't concern you. You just want it to be in prime working condition when you do need it? ;)

  5. Re:In other news... by MyHair · · Score: 2, Funny

    Forget that crap. We all know that isn't practical. Just use smaller fonts. That works today.

  6. I'm not sure this will work by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 5, Funny

    If they stand the 1's up, sure you can fit more because they're skinny. But 0's? They're wide...I don't see a significant amount of savings there...

  7. Standing bits on end... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, does this mean that instead of looking like this:
    0
    1

    All of my bits will instead look like this?:
    _
    -

    I suppose you can squeeze a lot more of them together that way, but is that really much of an innovation?

    Now, if they had figured out a way to fold the suckers, I'd be impressed.

  8. Re:Density doubling annually; access speeds lag by N8w8 · · Score: 3, Funny
    searching a 20-terabyte disk might take a year
    And the 20-TB-question is.... Will you actually find the disk after a year of searching?
  9. April Fool? by Stephen · · Score: 1, Funny
    "placing bits on end instead of lying them parallel on the disc surface"
    This has got to be an April Fool, hasn't it? Oh wait, it's the wrong date. But I'm sure if it was April 1st, no-one would believe it.
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    11.00100100001111110110101010001000100001011010001 1000010001101001100010011
  10. Obvious improvement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Unfortunately the benifits will depend on on the structure of the data to be stored. Totally random data is unlikely to see any significant benifit.

    Due to the speed of the disk platters, and performance limitations in current magnetic head technology, most drives write their data "end-to-end", like so:

    ( --> direction of spin --> )

    -0--0-00--0-0-0--0-

    However, simply by rotating the read-write head by 90 degrees, we can write the data "perpendicularly", like so:

    |0||0|00||0|0|0|0|

    Obviously the "1" bits stack more efficiently in this orientation. For example:

    ||||||||

    The greatest gains will be seen by data composed mostly of "1" bits, as they take less room to write than the "0" bits (when written "perpendicularly").

    Further density improvements are expected with the change to a smaller font size for data storage too...

    And to complete the joke see HD-Rosetta

  11. Hexagonal bits by MickLinux · · Score: 4, Funny
    I dunno why, but somehow this topic reminds me of a coversation like the following...

    See, there's a limit to how many bits you can store on a disk. I see. Because the area of the disk is limited I see. But you don't want a limit, you want more space. I want more space. But you can't have more space, because all of the bits are square they're square. and there's only so many square inches of surface. Only so much. Yes. Look at this disk. Radius 3.25" 3.25 It's a circle. It's round. Pie-R-square Pie-R-square So the area's limited. I see.

    And the bits, they're almost square, because that's the way the manufacturers' engineers like them. They like squares? Yes. I see. Well, really they're not square, they're almost square. And how's that? Well, they're square sections of a round arc. Not square? But almost square. Almost square. I see.

    So what do we do? I don't know. Well, we get a better packing fraction. Better packing fraction? Yes. That's the key. A better packing fraction. I see. And your data is round. Data is round Because the magnetic field is round. I see. And a square doesn't approximate a circle very well, does it? No. What does it better? A circle? Well, yes, but you can't do it with a circle, because circles bump each other. They bump each other? Yes, and they leave empty space between them. And we want a better packing fraction? Yes. So what do we take a cue from? I don't know. I know you don't know, but I'll tell you. We take a cue from the bee. The bee? The honeybee. He uses hexagons. Aaah. Hexagons. Yes, hexagons. They're all the future. The future? The future. The future. Yes, the future. Hexagons. Yes. That's where the money is. You're a nut.

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  12. No fair by DigiShaman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't make fun of my floppy. I know it's small, but I use it alot. :(

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    1. Re:No fair by kauttapiste · · Score: 4, Funny
      Don't make fun of my floppy. I know it's small, but I use it alot. :(


      Ah, so you didn't get the email telling you how easily you can increase the size of your floppy from 3.5" to 5.25"!

  13. Storage by panxerox · · Score: 2, Funny

    If I can't download anymore mp3s why do I need more storage?

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  14. It seems so obvious! by CatOne · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you look at a 1 or a 0 from the side, they're pretty big. But if you look at a 1 or a 0 from the top, they're a lot smaller! I guess a 1 will look like a dot, and a 0 will look like a line. That must be pretty easy to do, right? Pure genius!