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Japan's War On E-Waste

Stonent1 writes "With the increasing number of high tech devices in Japan filling landfills, Japan has taken a proactive approach to E-waste. BBC News has an interesting article on Matsushita's electronics recycling plant. For example, TV and monitor tubes are opened with a special tool and separated into leaded and unleaded glass, melted and reused in new displays! The plastic housing is also melted down and reused. Sounds like a good idea for the U.S., too."

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  1. Deposit by l810c · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There should be a deposit on all computer components to handle the recyling. A lot of the stuff gets shipped overseas to become other peoples problems.

  2. Re:Being done already.... by deman1985 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This requires equipment to be shipped back to the manufacturers, however. If given the choice between throwing away my old parts or digging up documents to find out where to ship my stuff to, my parts will be in the trash without a second thought.

  3. Computer Recycling event at Georgia Tech by GillBates0 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    A computer equipment recycling event was held at Georgia Tech a couple of weeks back...in partnership with Dell. I went and donated an antique graphics card I had, but they were looking for larger donations, from local organizations.

    The link is here

    A snippet:
    The Georgia Institute of Technology in partnership with Dell Computer Corporation of Round Rock, Texas is pleased to announce a one-day computer equipment-recycling event in Atlanta. The event will be held at the Alexander Memorial Coliseum parking lot on the Georgia Tech campus on Saturday, July 12, 2003 from 9:00 AM to 3:00 PM. The Coliseum is located on 10th Street off the I-75/85 Connector in downtown Atlanta. Participants are asked to enter the Coliseum via Fowler and 8th Street. The general public is encouraged to bring any brand of old computer-related equipment--computers, computer monitors, keyboards, mice, printers or other peripherals to the site for collection and recycling by Dell.

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  4. Re:Good idea? Probably not. by el-spectre · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It is a little different burying paper/food waste vs. electronics. The paper/food will break down fairly harmlessly, but electronics have all kinds of nasties (arsenic, lead, a bunch of stuff I can't spell) that can easily leach into the water supply.

    Besides, it's expensive getting metals out of the earth (as in mining them). Doesn't it make more sense to save money and recycle them?

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  5. General Electric has been doing this for years by djh101010 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    GE Medical systems has a salvage operation, where they take field returns of computers, circuit boards, monitors, x-ray tubes, and traded-in equipment. They test items that have a demand, and resell them if possible, and then the rest goes into the process.

    There is a group of people who snip the gold contact fingers off of circuit boards - the gold contacts go to one process, the boards go off to China for reuse of the components (so, that cheap Chinese toy you buy, might have 15 year old resisters that used to be in an Xray machine!). The CRTs are, as the article mentioned, separated for leaded vs. unleaded glass; chassis are stripped, steel & aluminum go off into their own recycling places.

    Some of the more intersting stuff is the tungsten rotors from the Xray tubes - some seriously heavy stuff, and the mu-metal from inside of some monitors and image intensifiers. Some of the scrap they come up with is painfully expensive stuff, some of it is toxic, and all of it would end up in a dump somewhere if they weren't doing it.

    Of course, GE being GE, they're not doing this just because it's a good thing to do, but I understand that they actually turn a profit at all of this. I'm guessing other GE businesses do it to, and I'd be surprised if there aren't dozens or hundreds of places in the US doing it already. If there aren't, maybe it'd be a good thing to look into.

  6. Cash redemsion value by Jack+Schitt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here in California, we have a tax on many recyclable products (soda cans and bottles). The tax is called CRV and is usually something small, like $0.14. They refund the tax when you recycle the bottle or can. I think they should have a CRV for electronic components. That way, you might have more incentive to recycle them.

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  7. Two Problems by Thunderstruck · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The discussion thusfar seems to have identified two major issues (and one minor one) that must be overcome before such a program could exist in the United States.

    1. Land - We've got a lot of it over here, but the bottleneck to starting something like this is probably not so much a question of whether or not its easier to make landfills. The question is one of transport. How can any recycling operation afford to ship 22 pounds (10 kg) of monitor from an office in Lemmon, SD, once every 6 months, and still hope to turn a profit? Japan has the "advantage" of being compact. We don't.

    2. Law - Landfills are cheap & easy. Recycling is less profitable. Will we be trying to implement this state by state? Does the federal government have any authority to mandate such a disposal regime under the interstate commerce power?

    3. Will the RIAA object to anyone recycling a DRM enabled device under the DMCA?

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  8. Where it all ends up without the right fix by kimbo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Unfortunately what they don't tell you is that about 80% of the collected e-waste is shipped to third world countries. See export harm at:
    http://www.svtc.org/cleancc/pubs/technotrash. htm
    Dell uses prison labor to do their recycling. Recycling is usually pulling some parts which have little value and sending the rest overseas and to landfills.
    However, there are systems such as plasma torch processes at ~8000 degrees C that are non-polluting
    (everything is closed cycle) which can recover all the raw chemicals. Japan has these plants for household waste. Unfortunately no venture capitalist in the U.S. will back one (~10M) since they only have good profit returns rather than 10X returns in 2 years. I know, I wrote a business plan for one and found out disinterested they are in plants with just 'good' profit returns. My own university 'venture office' laughed and said come back when I had a biotech or computer idea.