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Meditation in the Workplace?

prostoalex writes "Nortel, Texas Instruments, Raytheon, Google, Apple and many others are apparently finding meditation and yoga to be a very efficient way to motivate and energize the employees. BusinessWeek finds that the reasons companies are suddenly hiring the yoga experts and conducting regular classes are easily justified to the management: "increased brain-wave activity, enhanced intuition, better concentration, and the alleviation of the kinds of aches and pains that plague employees most"."

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  1. What a lot of Nonsense by turgid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is ridiculous. Employers would find that their employess were productive and content by treating them with respect and dignity, managing them properly, having proper time-scales, fair working hours, etc. Enforced yoga, meditation and feng-shui is childish, silly and new-age clap-trap put about my a bunch of charlatans looking to make a quick buck out of the naieve, impressionable and those with more money than sense.

    1. Re:What a lot of Nonsense by Surak · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is ridiculous. Employers would find that their employess were productive and content by treating them with respect and dignity, managing them properly, having proper time-scales, fair working hours, etc. Enforced yoga, meditation and feng-shui is childish, silly and new-age clap-trap put about my a bunch of charlatans looking to make a quick buck out of the naieve, impressionable and those with more money than sense.

      As someone who meditates on a daily basis, I wholeheartedly disagree. Meditation is *very* useful for clearing the mind and relieving stress. It's a useful tool for collecting your thoughts, visualizing the achievement of goals, and quieting the useless chatter in your mind that keeps you from being productive. It's a technique that's been using tens of thousands of years, and it's very, very effective. Don't knock it 'til you've tried it!

    2. Re:What a lot of Nonsense by ravenousbugblatter · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You're probably right to a large degree, but the work place isn't the only place where meditation or even just sitting quietly for fifteen minutes has yielded improvements -- I saw a piece on an urban school in chicago or something that was a complete disaster. The school had rowdy kids, poor attendance, and poor grades, and horrible test scores. A new principal there instituted a mandatory meditation period of fifteen minutes for all students. Within months attendance had increased, grades and test scores had increased, and attitude was significantly improved. Yoga in the workplace sounds like a stretch to me, but I see nothing wrong with a few minutes of peaceful meditation each day.

    3. Re:What a lot of Nonsense by Surak · · Score: 4, Informative

      The only thing I can say in response to that is if it didn't work for you, you're not doing it right. ;) (I'm sure you've heard this before. Most people I tell this to in response to what you've said say the same thing ;)

      There is plenty of actual, hard scientific evidence that points to both physical and mental health benefits to meditation. Here are some useful meditation resources that I've found to be helpful.

    4. Re:What a lot of Nonsense by garcia · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Hey, that's absolutely wonderful for YOU. For it to be forced upon me as another way to bring up morale and productivity in the workplace?

      Swimming, hiking, camping, and listening to music are my ways to relieve stress and bring up my productivity.

      I hate sitting in one place basically doing nothing for more than 5 mins.

      I wish management would learn that people are individuals and need to be treated as such. Blanket policy always pisses someone off.

      Remember that.

    5. Re:What a lot of Nonsense by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 5, Insightful
      As someone who meditates on a daily basis, I wholeheartedly disagree. Meditation is *very* useful for clearing the mind and relieving stress. It's a useful tool for collecting your thoughts, visualizing the achievement of goals, and quieting the useless chatter in your mind that keeps you from being productive. It's a technique that's been using tens of thousands of years, and it's very, very effective. Don't knock it 'til you've tried it!

      That might be because it's (or at least it seems like) your own decision to meditate. There's a HUGE difference in attitude when you go meditate on your own initiative then when you're forced to meditate during work for 15 minutes, in a hurry, without being paid. I'm no expert on these things but I'd think it's very plausible that being forced to do meditation against your will and with a bad attitude towards it effectively renders it useless indeed...

      That said, I think most people would rather have easier work times, more realistic goals set by management and be treated as humans instead of expendable statistics.

    6. Re:What a lot of Nonsense by alexkj · · Score: 5, Funny

      heh-heh, "enforced meditation". I kinda like the concept. Come on. Meditate! Now! Be calm. NO, CALM!

  2. Medication by Anonymous+Cowturd · · Score: 5, Funny

    I misread 'Meditation' as 'Medication', which might be relaxing in the workplace.

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  3. Save your money by barryfandango · · Score: 5, Funny

    You may as well just create a 1-2pm "Execute Powernap."

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  4. Lay off the coffee by gilesjuk · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you want to relax then stop drinking caffeine and sugary drinks. You'll sleep better at night and thus will feel better at work, no need to take caffeine to wake you up due to lack of sleep the night before.

    Of course such suggestions will no go down with programmers :)

    1. Re:Lay off the coffee by EastCoastSurfer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I agree. Caffeine has never kept me awake, but when I come off the high from it I get really tired. Now that I have quit caffeine I actually have more energy consistenly through the day instead of the highs and lows that came with drinking caffeine.

    2. Re:Lay off the coffee by nil_null · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you want to relax then stop drinking caffeine and sugary drinks. You'll sleep better at night and thus will feel better at work, no need to take caffeine to wake you up due to lack of sleep the night before.

      Very true. I used to drink coffee and soda, now I have completely quit. I have plenty of energy, I am active all day long, and I have no problems getting 7-9 hours of sleep at night. I don't find myself nodding off in the middle of the day anymore, either.

      As for meditation, I have tried it on and off, and find the results to be very subtle. I'm trying to get back into it again, meditating in the morning before going to work, and in the evening at some point. A book I recommend is "Journey of Awakening" by Ram Dass. The way he presents his ideas makes it very accessible to most of us. Even if you don't end up doing any meditation, the first chapter of the book gives great insight into life in general.

  5. a need for peace by mandalayx · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I find this article interesting. Perhaps some workers are wanting peace and harmony and are having trouble getting those needs met in a work environment that I see as increasingly fast-paced, stressful, and unstable. Personally I've been able to meet my needs for peace and even energy through yoga (after being dragged by my girlfriend there).

    Observations....

    William H. Gross, of Newport Beach (Calif.)'s Pacific Investment Management Co., who often meditates with yoga before a day of trading at his $349 billion money-management firm.
    Has anyone ever listened to Bill Gross's bond recommendations? They always seem to do much worse than his actual holdings...

    So employees can breathe easy: This is one perk that isn't likely to get axed.
    I've heard this one before...
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    I did Bikram Yoga at Funky Door in Berkeley. Any recommendations?

  6. Buddhism by Cally · · Score: 5, Informative
    Buddhism rocks - but silently ;)


    Seriously, I recommend it. It's _the_ geek religion* as far as I'm concerned; no contradictions with physics or cosmology, no ridiculous mumbo-jumbo from some 3000 year old oral histories of nomadic shepherds, no all powerful elephant-god floating in the sky somewhere... and Zen will teach you more about programming and network administration than any number of certifications and courses.

    *well, apart from Discordianism, or the Church of the SubGenius... which both have a lot of zen in them anyway - the jokes, mainly :)

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  7. this is cool! by RMH101 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ..along with the web, email, trips to the coffee machine, phone calls, scratching my bollocks and leaving early this means i might never need to do anything in the office ever again!

  8. Does that mean... by Advocadus+Diaboli · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... that now my firm approves it when I sleep off at my desk? Well, its a sort of meditation too, isn't it?

  9. Another Case of Hawthorne by WTFRUDOINBiotch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not the Yoga thats helping, it's the attention. People love to feel needed!

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  10. Yoga: Foosball for a New Decade by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 4, Funny
    increased brain-wave activity, enhanced intuition, better concentration, and the alleviation of the kinds of aches and pains that plague employees most

    Personally, I derive the same benefits from my Scotch-and-Cigar breaks, without the added mystic baggage. Fortunately, I work from home.

    But, hey, whatever floats your boat. If sitting in the Lotus Position and intoning chants from the Vedas is what we have to do to keep jobs from going to India, I'm all for it.

    ...appreciating the irony it, but all for it, nonetheless.

  11. Electronic Component Makers Mantra' by G4from128k · · Score: 5, Funny

    News from the future -- 'ResistorCorp has Employees Chanting "Ohm" '

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  12. Next on internalmemo.com by palad1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    To: employees@company.com
    From: management@company.com
    Subject: Note Yoga team members

    Dear ${team_member},

    It has recently come to our attention that some corridors have a very strong smell of incense, patchouli and other unidentified substances.

    As much as we value the quality of your working environment, we would like to remind you that marijuana is not yet allowed within the united states.

    Sincerely,
    ${manager}

    ps: What's with all those Pink Floyds mp3 ?

  13. Here, in Switzerland we prefer sport by mirko · · Score: 5, Informative

    We have a guy that comes and gives shiatsu to whoever feel like being massaged.

    But most of the time, instead of mediting, we prefer doing some sport (not on the screen, I mean perspiring, running around, etc.)

    It is also *forbidden* to speak about work-related issues during lunch.

    The guy that came 2 days ago about his weight problem is not alone and I guess there's nothing as relaxing as re-oxygenation ; SPORT.

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  14. Whoop dee doo... by Noryungi · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Either:
    1. This is a case of PHBs buying into the latest [yoga] fad, or:
    2. This is a case of PHBs trying to pressure employees into working even more than before ("See? we are a gentle, caring company! Now work for 8 more hours... you can, since you have had your yoga classes!"), or:
    3. all of the above.


    Frankly, that kind of thing makes me completely mad. What about paying people a decent salary?

    What about not over-working them (ie: decent work hours, not permanent overtime)? This way, perhaps your employees won't need frivolous yoga classes to be productive and motivated!

    What about managing companies responsibly, not in an Enronesque way?

    What about day-care benefits for employees with children? You know, like having in-house day-care center for toddlers, so that moms and dads can see their kids during lunch hour, and not grow apart from their offspring?

    Etc... etc... In short: decent and sensible policies? Noooo.... instead, you get these moronic "benefits".

    Nothing against yoga, mind you, which I am really interested in, by the way. It's just that replacing sound management policies by yoga classes just doesn't cut it for me.

    If I want yoga classes, I'll pay for them out of my own pocket, thank you very much...

    (Sorry for the rant, this is the kind of Dilbert-esque "benefits" that just push me over the edge...)
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  15. Friday Massage by quinkin · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Friday absences have dropped dramatically since my work introduced Friday afternoon massages (nothing kinky, just a shoulder rub).

    An added bonus is that you don't just spend your weekend recovering from the working week. You feel more inclined to go back to work on monday when you feel you have a life beyond work.

    Q.

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  16. What about religion? by Hiawatha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've nothing against this meditation idea, but I can't help wondering. Would a company support employee prayer breaks? Not that I advocate such a practice--I can pray anytime I want, without company authorization. I'm just curious, is all...

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  17. A Buddhist meditation teacher replies by kfg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yoga and meditation are not inherently New Age and certainly aren't clap-trap. That doesn't mean that New Agers don't mess up the field something fierce. I was once considering selling T-Shirts that said, "Blow the New Age out your ass."

    That being said you are absolutely correct. Giving people the opportunity to take a relax and stretch without harassing them about their "productivity" would certainly be one thing they could do to treat employees with respect.

    This isn't what typically happens though. It gets applied just like any other buzz word compliant band-aid program that makes them feel like they're respecting their employees while actually treating them with disdain and just as much like mere productivity machines as they ever did.

    Thus meditation becomes demeaning for many.

    On the whole they could do more good by letting people listen to music of their choice while they work and not having a coniption fit if they walk to the watercooler a time or two.

    Meditation cannot be applied as a paliative for keyboard logging.

    KFG

  18. Yeah, this is a positive trend... by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Did anyone catch this?
    "Sometimes meditation classes are offered as a gesture of thanks for a job well done. Consider AOL Time Warner Inc., where the sales and marketing group was reduced from 850 to 500 people three years ago. Meditation classes were incorporated to help employees deal with the new 12-hour days.
    You want to reduce stress in the workplace? Why not start by not giving your employees twelve hour work days?
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  19. Right idea, wrong place, wrong time by SunPin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Meditation is valuable but there are a lot of different kinds of meditation. For example, breathing meditation can be done 24 hours a day. Our breath rate has a huge impact on what emotions control us in a given moment. Control the breath and you have another avenue for seeking mental equilibrium.

    Then there's the "kindness" meditation which can be done at all hours while you're awake. Basically, you decide that you wish everyone well no matter what they think of you and you don't let situations beyond your control get the best of you.

    I don't find value in yoga or sitting in one place humming crazy chants. Neither do most educated Buddhists. The charlatans like yoga and incense and other nonsense because it sells. The naive like yoga and incense and other nonsense because these people haven't detached themselves from the myth that you can *buy* happiness.

    Corporate adoption of meditation practices seems like yet another idiotic idea from marketing. I'm sure most employees are perfectly capable of taking care of their spiritual needs without the Corporate Big Brother getting involved.

    If corporations really want to help, they can focus on providing money in exchange for hours worked instead of always trying to ace full-timers out of their labor.

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  20. all the same by AssFace · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd rather have lapdances.

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  21. Spiritual materialism is the wrong attitude by MichaelCrawford · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I find it appalling that meditation is being sold to business as a way to make employees more productive. While I think meditation in the workplace is a great idea, I think that doing so because of its payoff for the business' bottom line is simply the wrong attitude to have.

    Buddha taught us that the source of human misery is attachment. In order to be free from sorrow, we must be free from attachment - and from striving.

    Many people who meditate - and I suspect most Americans who meditate - do so because they hope to get something out of it, anything from relaxation, to relief from stress, enlightment or spiritual growth. But if you are striving to better yourself through meditation, you are missing the whole point. What you must free yourself from is that very striving.

    The Shambhala monk Chyogyam Trungpa was instrumental in bringing Tibetan buddhism to the US and Canada in a form that could be appreciated by westerners. May I recommend a couple of his books:

    Spiritual materialism was particularly rampant in the United States in the late 60's and early 70's. Trungpa worked hard to teach all the navel-gazers that that was a mistake.

    I can teach anyone to meditate in about two minutes:

    Sit comfortably but with your back straight. Focus just part of your attention on your breath. Clear your mind of thoughts. Don't beat yourself up if a though crosses your mind, just let it go. Then sit for a while. Try ten minutes to start with, then a little longer each day as you get used to it.

    The most important thing is to just sit. How many Slashdotters ever allow themselves to just sit? To just clear your mind without thinking of anything?

    Trungpa said there was no way out but to apply your bottom to the meditation cushion. I can promise you'll enjoy his books - he was quite a colorful character.

    I think that the day that release from attachment can be sold to American business will come when Bill Gates gives his money to the poor, shaves his head, dons saffron robes, and takes The Vows of Refuge.

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  22. Corporate sponsored religious practice by joshmccormack · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is it people are comfortable with companies sponsoring Yoga, a religious practice? Meditation is one thing, but:

    http://www.niharonline.com/culture/religion/cul_ re li_hin.php
    Bhagavat-Gita, a part of the epic Mahabharata, expounds the synthesis of three yogas or ways of attaining union with the Supreme Self, Gyana-yoga (union through knowledge), Bhakti-yoga (union through devotion) and Karma-yoga (union through action).

    http://www.classicalyoga.org/Page18.html
    There has been and continues to be much confusion over what is religion and/or spirituality. In actuality, these two words have an identical meaning. "Religion" comes from the Latin root "religio" which means "to link-back" to the spirit. This is the identical meaning of the word "Yoga" which comes from the Sanskrit "Yuj;" i.e., "to yoke" to the spirit. Even before the word "Yoga" was used, the Vedas (Hindu scripture) use the word "Yajna" which essentially means "sacrifice." The word "sacrifice" comes from the Latin translation "sacred doing." With this understanding, one becomes aware of the inseparable nature of Yoga/Religion/Spirituality.

  23. Yoga jobs going to India! by semanticgap · · Score: 4, Funny

    Those newly hired Yoga experts better not get too comfy - major us corporations are trying to outsource meditation to India where Yoga expertiese is higher and average Yoga expert salary is 5 loafs of bread per month.

  24. Einstein liked Buddhism by notany · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Great quotes:

    "Buddhism is a science, not a fanatic religion like football."
    -- Lama Khyentse Norbu

    "The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion; the religion
    which is based on experience, which refuses dogmatism. If there's any
    religion that would cope with scientific needs it will be Buddhism.... "
    -- Albert Einstein, 1954, [from Albert Einstein: The Human Side,
    edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University Press]

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  25. It's plausible for creative or analytical jobs by hey! · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Most people seem to be unaware of the constant stream of internal dialog that accompanies us through the day. It affects how we process all the information we receive, and therefore how we act.

    This internal dialog can become fixated on a single idea. When it becomes a more important determinant of our behavior than the informtaion we receive from our senses. Everybody's had the experience of working with a coworker who keeps coming back to the same issues over and over again. We tend to put it down to perversity -- that they are just use every event as an excuse to harp on their pet issue. But it's not really voluntary - it can become a pernicious habit like drug addiction.

    It's an interesting comparison, because meditation is closely related to hypnotism, and many people have found hypnotism useful in breaking destructive habits. "Free your mind" has become a familiar catch phrase from The Matrix, but what the mind needs to be freed from is not an outside force, but its own overly ingrained habits of thought. In a sense, we all can become "addicted" to certain ways of thinking about things, to the extent that we become blinded to situations that would be obvious to somebody looking at them with fresh eyes.

    Yoga is not just about physical flexibility -- it's about mental flexibility as well.

    Of course, the benefits depends on what your job is. If your job involves processing information and making judgements, meditation could conceivably allow you to be a little more creative. I have a feeling that most people in these kinds of positions have at best a few hours a week in which most of their creativity is done. Much of the time spent during the week is duff. For some people, giving even an hour a day to meditation could conceivably be worthwhile if they could extend the number of highly creative hours from say two to two and a half over the course of a week.

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