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Gartner Says Delay Linux Deployment Due to SCO

Sridhar writes "SCO's legal threats have prompted Gartner Group to recommend that companies delay deployment of critical Linux applications, determine "whether Unix or Windows will provide functions equivalent to those of Linux deployments", and take a "go-slow" approach to Linux in high-value or mission-critical production systems."

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  1. Evidence? by DeathPenguin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can this be used as evidence in counter-suits as many companies offering Linux can now say they've seen substantial losses due to SCO FUD?

  2. This is what I've been saying. by FreeLinux · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Regardless of how the SCO lawsuit turns out, SCO is giving Linux a black eye. In fact, with the constant barrage of "news" regarding the SCO case, I'd say that Linux has a whole bunch of black eyes from this and it will still be a few years before it gets to court.

  3. No big surprise by MaxwellStreet · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Whether they've been paid off, or are inordinately conservative, Gartner has always been something of an advocate for Microsoft technologies.

    Given that Linux is finding more and more of a role in replacing Windows-based servers, it should come as no surprise that Gartner would come up with something like this.

    Problem is, this sort of thing gives C*O's, already wondering about SCO & Linux liabilities, reason to delay or reduce Linux adoption in their enterprise.

  4. Love the disclaimer! by TopShelf · · Score: 5, Funny
    * In the interests of balance, Register analysts strongly recommend that customers ignore all this shit on the grounds that one way or another it'll go away. Warning: The Register's analytical reputation can go down as well as up, and frankly we're not entirely sure about that "up".
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  5. PHB by scrotch · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Gartner Group provide Pointy Haired Advice to Pointy Haired Bosses.

  6. Delay, my A$$ by PaulK · · Score: 5, Funny

    I absolutely refuse to delay any deployment of Linux.

    By submitting to the FUD, we have allowed the terrorists to win.

    I, for one, will not surrender, will not buckle to extortion, and will never concede to SCO, or any other company that thinks they can control what I put on my servers, through litigation.

    As far as I know, there has been no legal action on the part of SCO against any user or corporation that employs Linux. All they have done is threaten.

    How much did they pay you, Gardner? Did they threaten you too?

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  7. What about Microsofts IP issues? by satsuke · · Score: 5, Informative

    Microsoft is facing a lawsuit that taken at face value is almost as big as the SCO doubt ..

    http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10648

    Basically that 80+ % of Microsofts past and present products are infringing on this guys business process patent.

    again, at face value Gardner should be recommending to put off major software purchases.

    (This is an example on two different levels .. SCO vs Microsoft that obviously are not the same .. but could be).

  8. SCO executives make a million in June and July by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    While most everybody focuses on the merits of the SCO vs IBM (and Linux by implication) case, SCO execs have made a tidy profit (over $1,000,000 in June and July) by selling stock

    Form-4 filings with the SEC reveal they made $398,833.90 in June, and $656,270.10 in July (so far)!

    And there's more!

    Remember that Canopy-owned company SCO just bought into, who's the leader? "Mike Meservy, CEO, Vultus, Inc"

    Looks like he and Vultus, Inc. were themselves SCO shareholders even before SCO bought into Vultus. From excellent GROKLAW site about SCO v IBM: SCO has filed, on July 8, a Registration Statement on Form S-3, relating to "the public offering or distribution by selling stockholders of up to 305,274 shares of common stock, par value $0.001 per share, of The SCO Group, Inc." The shares will be sold by Vultus, Inc., The Canopy Group, Inc., Angel Partners Inc., Michael Meservy, Bruce K. Grant Jr., Ty D. Mattingly and R. Kevin Bean. Only Canopy Group, in this list, will retain any SCO stock. SCO "will not receive any proceeds from the sale or distribution of the common stock by the selling stockholders. ... On July 3, 2003, the last price for our common stock, as reported by the Nasdaq National Market, was $10.71."

  9. Big Linux folks TOO quiet! by gabrieltss · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The big Linux folks are being way to quiet. Why don't we hear IBM, SuSE, Red Hat et all. Screaming at SCO or at least putting out their own press releases. At least Linus has said something. The only ones screaming are US - the linux users. Some other countries are taking a stand and telling SCO to "Put up or shut up" and wining, Germany, poland and now Austrailia is getting in on it. WTF is wrong with the U.S.A.? Besides our Governemnt being OWNED by big corporations! Isn't there some laywer out there that would take on a class action lawsuit of all linux users and sue SCO for slander, extortion etc..?

    What the heck can be done to shut SCO the HELL up!

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  10. It's time to complain to AG, FTC, and DOJ by walterbyrd · · Score: 5, Informative

    It only takes a minute. If enough people complain, somebody may take notice. I am including web-sites and a sample letter.

    https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG _C ODE=PU01
    http://naag.org/naag/feedback_form.php?s ubject=COM MENT
    http://www.usdoj.gov/contact-us.html

    As the representative of a small business. I am writing to file a complaint regarding the actions of the SCO Group.

    SCO is making unspecific and unsubstantiated claims that it owns copyright pertaining to the Linux operating system. SCO is threatening legal action against anybody who uses Linux. SCO has stated that the only way anybody can avoid legal
    action from SCO, is to purchase SCO's UnixWare product.

    In deference to anything SCO may be claiming: SCO does not own Linux, nor does SCO have any special rights to Linux. Linux is protected by the General Public License (GPL). SCO has no more rights to tell people they can't use Linux, than SCO has to tell people they can't use MS-Windows.

    Would you please investigate the claims that SCO is making so that small businesses and other companies are not pressured into making unwarranted payments.

    Contact information for the SCO Group:
    The SCO Group
    355 South 520 West, Suite 100
    Lindon, Utah 84042
    801.765.4999 phone
    801.765.1313 fax

  11. Gartner could be replaced by a 5 line script by tjstork · · Score: 5, Funny


    sleep( rand() % 1000000 );

    printf( "we recommend you stick with windows.\n" ); // thanks bill gates for this sweet job

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  12. Let me educate you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's set the wayback machine to 1994-1995, shall we?

    At the time, the battle was between Windows, OS/2, and Apple. Linux was no where to be seen by anyone but a few geeks.

    Time and time again we were treated to "reports" and "analysis" from the Gartner Group/Rob Enderle extolling the benefits of Windows (3.1, keep in mind, followed by 95) over everything else. Volumes of FUD was generated by Gartner/Enderle and Dataquest AGAINST anything non-Microsoft. It was a constant, incessant FLOOD. At the same time, discussion groups like Compuserve's CANOPUS form were being invaded by paid-for Microsoft shills (see www.pjprimer.com for the details), like "Steve Barkto".

    The end result? OS/2 and Apple were discredited. THOUROUGHLY. Windows, even in it's horrid crash-prone unstable form of Windows 3.1 and Win95, "won".

    And at the sidelines, Ziff Davis acted like cheerleaders at a football game, chanting "rah rah! Microsoft! Rah rah rah!" The lone dissenter--Will Zachmann--the only man who stood up to say "um, guys? This is bullshit!"...got a phone call from the Microsoft Munchkins trying to butter his bread on Bill Gates' side. Instead of selling out, Zachmann quit, turning the entire trade press over to pro-Microsoft bias 100%.

    The point of my story? Any and all suspicion of Gartner, Rob Enderle, and Ziff Davis/ZDNET is ENTIRELY JUSTIFIED. And further, it has nothing to do with "lunix" as you call it. Some of us have memories that stretch back before 1998, and we damn well REMEMBER what the FUD generated by these paid-for bastards can do.

    You're damn right--this isn't 1998.

  13. Do legal threats against MS get this reaction? by GodWasAnAlien · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At one point, MS had actual lawsuits against it from every direction. The Federal, State, local government and businesses such as Sun and Caldera (now SCO).

    Did Gartner issue the same warning then?

    So far SCO has only sued IBM. There is good reason for that. They have no case against others, unless they have a specific contract with them.

    For a normal Linux user, there is no SCO agreement.

    Linux users should assume that all linux code is covered under the GPL, unless shown otherwise.

    The most SCO could ask linux users to do is remove possible infringing code, if there was any.

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    SCO claims that IBM borrowed their car years ago, and IBM took part of the car (perhaps near the bumper) and donated it to you, who assumed that it was a genuine gift from IBM.

    Now SCO is coming to you and demanding payment. They are also running around town telling people that your car is running on parts stolen from SCO. You are more than willing to give up a part, if they can show and prove which part was taken. But SCO will not tell you which part it is, and instead says that if you pay for their car, they will not sue you.

  14. Your kidding right ??? by Archfeld · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Half of the fortune 500 companies board members live and die by Gartner recommendations. Note, that does NOT invalidate your statement about half-brains and such, but I can honestly say THE ONLY reason we have apache as a web server in our organization was the Gartner report on the TCO of IIS. It does not matter what us tech's know, it is the PHB's that make all the decisions....and the further south they get the wierder and more implausable their views get,...

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  15. Why doesn't Red Hat or IBM sue SCO for damages? by rollingcalf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    SCO should be sued for the damage they are doing to Linux distributors, and an injunction should be obtained to shut them up until they can show proof in court. One half-dead company must not be allowed to use the legal system to terrorize people all over the place.

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