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Mozilla Thunderbird 0.1 Released
An anonymous reader submits: The Mozilla Thunderbird (stand-alone Mozilla based mail/news reader) developers have just released their first milestone: version 0.1, available for Mac
Linux,
Mac OS X
and Windows. The v0.1 release notes highlight some of the bigger features like customizable toolbars, UI extensions, contact manager sidebar, simplified UI, 3-pane mail window option, and spell checker. Also of note, Mozilla's usage share has risen from 1.2% in February to 1.6% now, a 33% improvement!"
Yes, it is a 0.1 release for a reason. It crashed on my Windows system only once or twice, and that was probably due to some misconfiguring on my part. It was easy to configure, unfortunately it still reeks of "I-look-like-netscape"ocity (a problem plauging mozilla).
Linux distribution is quite good, it won't take over from Evolution just yet.
It's a good start. Remember, people, before you start posting whines about things not working, remember, this is a 0.1 release.
Make sure you get your favorite features from the extensions ;)
h ttp://texturizer.net/thunderbird/extensions.html
Extensions:
http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/
Thunderbird is the Mozilla mail component. Firebird is the browser component.
MozillaZine Thunderbird Forums
FAQ and tips at Texturizer
Very stable, it is based off of the Mozilla Mail/News 1.5a which is a VERY stable mail client.
Thunderbird is only 0.1 in terms of being a Stand-Alone App (with a load of new features).
Nidelven IT just put up a new article called An Introduction to Thunderbird. Looks pretty solid.
CB
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Look at How do I migrate my Mozilla mail and settings to Thunderbird
FWIW, I've been runing Mozilla Mail 1.3 and Thunderbird side by side (using the same profile/email stores) and no problems.
I don't think it's an official milestone, perhaps more of a release candidate, but test it out for the team anyway!
Berto
Does anyone have a pointer to a binary for Silicon Graphics IRIX?
o ad/irix/1 .4/
BTW, I see that SGI has posted an IRIX version of Mozilla 1.4 in both tarball and inst/swmgr native tardist installable format:
ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/mozilla/downl
I've been using Thunderbird as my primary PC mail client at home since the first nightly build. Aside from a few small issues at first, I haven't had any problems for a while. It's the nicest looking alternative that I've found. Eudora has a nasty interface, and the MS stuff is well, just that. It's nice to have a decent alternative and I highly recommend it.
Dispite using mostly X11 based desktops (SGIs, Suns, x86 Linux) I do really like the look and feel of Microsoft Entourage. It does way more than Outlook Express, but doesn't need to rely on an Exchange server.
e ntouragex.aspx?pid=entouragex
e ntouragex.aspx?pid=whatsnew
Microsoft has recently dropped the price for standalone Entourage to $99, and I think they have an Entourage/Word bundle for $190. (It's still probably a better deal to make use of the Office OEM bundle when buying a new Mac from a reseller).
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/entouragex/
There are also a few good screenshots of the app too... doesn't look like the commitee-designed beast that Outlook XP is:
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/entouragex/
This thing has the best IMAP support for windows of any mail client.
-no "phantom" messages like OE (my previous favourite) gets
-ssl support
-automagic configuration of namespaces (something most imap clients don't do even though it's in the RFC)
-conditional subfolder checking for "new" in case you have server side filtering
-"delete", "mark deleted", and "move to trash" support, instead of the simple "mark deleted" most imap clients have
-50% more pie
I've been using Thunderbird on Windows now for about 3 weeks and I haven't had a single problem. I much prefer it to Eudora, my previous email client.
By the way, something useful for non-US English users that took me a while to figure out: Thunderbird uses MySpell dictionaries which can be downloaded here.
And lots more tips for Thunderbird here.
It is possible to hack your profile directories and use your Mozilla Mail data. I just recreated the accounts and pointed Mozilla Mail to the t-bird profile folders in mail prefs. That way, I can use MozMail or T-bird -- primarily using T-bird when I'm hacking Mozilla and need to restart often.
.1 issue, the core code here is based upon Mozilla 1.5-ish, so the datasource functions for mail are well tested, the UI not so much.
On other imports, I successfully imported 500mb of Outlook data with no problem. Easy to share the data between t-bird and mozmail too.
As to the
1. Three vertical panes. 1 thin pane for folders. 1 pane for folder contents and 1 pane for displaying the selected mail. It is a MUCH more efficient use of space.
Thunderbird already has it. Even mentioned in the summary. I don't like it myself, but whatever...
I believe this is a moot point. The default theme is horrid, I agree, but there are a variety of themes to choose from at http://themes.mozdev.org. <personal_preference>Orbit 3+1 rules!</personal_preference>. And I don't notice Mozilla's speed problems, but I have a top-of-the-line computer, and understand that not everybody else does, and I understand it's something the Mozilla team needs to work on.
"In addition to automatically detecting junk mail using the same method as Mozilla Mail, Thunderbird also sanitizes HTML in mail marked as junk in order to better protect your privacy and give peace of mind when viewing a message identified as junk.".
;)
In other words YES, it does. As long as the message is marked as JUNK MAIL, it will stripp it of anything that could be dangerous for viewing, if it is not dangerous, just mark as "not junk"
Firebird on my 866mhz Pentium III machine was almost faster than IE on my Athlon XP 1400, and then I did this and there was no contest. Speeds up page rendering quite a lot.
I downloaded the earlier release a while back for my Windows 98 SE system. Unlike MS Outlook Express, it has unicode support for the main GUI fonts and not just the email messages themselves.
With Outlook Express, all the entries in the from and subject fields would not display in unicode under Windows 98. No amount of messing with settings or posting on BBS's would solve it. I mean is someone really gonna open a letter from "???OT???XZ??" with the subject "???00??X??"?
Thunderbird displays the unicode characters nicely in the inbox listing, and in the emails themselves - right out of the box. No extra stuff needed. Wunderbar!
yep.
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I've been using some of the nightly builds, and it has been pretty stable. I did experience a problem where the preview pane would freak out and get stuck in a reload loop. That wouldn't happen too often (it seemed like it was triggered by some bit of html in the message) and it appears that it was cleared up a few weeks ago.
Even with the instability, I still loved it. It doesn't quite have the speed advantage over Mozilla mail that Firebird has over the Mozilla browser, but it's noticeably faster. I've been using it on Win XP. I tried to use it on Linux, but it would not even load on Red Hat 8 or 9. I'm going to try 0.1 on my workstation tomorrow when I get to work.
> The sooner that IE is a minority the better
Excuse me sir, but have you noticed that you have monkeys flying out of your butt?
Mozilla Thunderbird has both the features you mention.
1. Go the Tools menu, Options. Under the General tab, select your preferred window configuration.
2. Right-click on a message. You have the option of Labelling it as a particular category, or Marking with a flag.
To see flagged messages, you may need to enable this column, by clicking on the field selector on the right-hand side of the column headings.
One customisation where I think Outlook does beat Mozilla here is in labelling. Outlook lets you have as many label categories as you want. Thunderbird has a maximum of five, although you can change the labels and colours.
As another poster has said, both the features you mention have been available for a long time in both Outlook and Mozilla.
-- Matt Ryall
Opera's M2 Email Client http://www.opera.com/products/user/m2/ Also has a filtering agent that does not contact outside servers so your privacy remains intact. It should also be mentioned that M2 is not an ordinary email client, it uses access-points instead of folders. Takes some getting used to but it is really useful and cool once you know how to use it.
But will I be able too painlessly move my email from Moz over? I've got two years of mail in my .mozilla folder and I don't intend to hack together some sick bastardized transfer.
can we have a resounding "Hell yeah?"
To test out Thunderbird, I moved my mail foders to a FAT32 data drive a few days ago, and told Thunderbird and Mozilla to both look at the same place. The auto-filters I use were just a bit off, but the folders themselves were all there.
You don't need to hack anything--it's a preference in the standard GUI layout for "mail folder location."
'course, I don't see T-bird as worth it at home--the integration of Moz just works so well for me at the moment.
I also hope they will implement flash blocking like they have with images. Too many pages just annoy the hell out of you with flash instead now...
There is a extension for that: Flash Click to view
These are moving targets which break whenever hotmail/yahoo make even minor changes to their web pages. Aside from legal concerns, it would just attract unwanted fire when it eventaully breaks.
Hotmail may have it's undocumented outlook-web feature, but again that exists at the whims of MS, and has spam issues.
fwiw, fetchyahoo works great.
http://packages.debian.org/fetchyahoo
~.~
I'm a peripheral visionary.
Eventually, yes. All the functionality of the current mozilla suite is going to be migrated over to the quicker, less bloated framework that firebird, thunderbird and sunbird(calendaring) are currently using.
Marxism is the opiate of dumbasses
Hmmm, well, there's always Dillo if you're after lean, clean and fast. But Dillo doesn't yet have https support and - while probably at least 95% functional for everyday use - the rendering engine does have difficulties with complex sites. But the browser is ultra-tiny and rocket-fast - oh, and from what they say on the website, it sounds like they could use some help!
But if you want *all* the bells-and-whistles (we're talking javascript, CSS, and full internet standards compatibility here) then I can't see how this is going to happen without at least some code-bloat and a slow-down. MozillaFirebird isn't that bad when you think about it - it's *quite* fast without being outstanding, but when you consider that I can (and regularly do) have more than 50 tabs open at once I think it doesn't do a bad job.
I also can't help thinking that the current MozFirebird default theme is pretty decent - it's certainly streets ahead of the old Mozilla 1.0 default/modern looks. In fact, I'd say the look-and-feel of Firebird is the one other area apart from speed in which I really can see a big improvement - while Mozilla was only ever a power-users browser the Firebird developers seem to have taken some pains to simplify the interface and make it more friendly to the computer-illiterate, whilst still retaining the power-user capabilities.
There is a difference, you know...
"I love my job, but I hate talking to people like you" (Freddie Mercury)
you propably saw konqueror running on cygwin. It is possible, but not as easy as download one package, double-click and it is installed. With the new QT for Apple, The Safari Team (actually old Mozilla developers, wonder why) could get backstapped by its originator KHTML, also running on Konqueror.
(yes this can be compared with sex)