You obviously havn't lived in another country where you pretty much *can't sue* for anything.
I doubt this guy is going to get very much money, but thanks to him MS will probably work harder and faster to get those users who's XBox's are f*^& and get them replacements ASAP.
If it's like any of the other stories I've heard, MS is making him jump through loopholes saying his system is fine, and that if it isn't, he's still going to have to wait for X amount of months for a replacement. To me, that is being screwed over by the big guys.
In other countries I've lived it (and I love them), if you buy a defective product, your screwed. Unless it's a company who's very credible and wants to preserve their image more than abidding by the small amount of law that is required, then you're stuck with shit.
Until you get butt-raped by a company, I don't think you learn to appreciate what makes America so nice were you actually have a voice to fix things you think are wrong. All other contries I've lived in you would either be killed by the company, get death threats, or the judge would get paid off and you'd be even more screwed.
Maybe because we actually know what we are talking about.
Brendan Eich worked at Netscape back when the web was pioneered.. he created Javascript while there, and wrote the entire javascript engine for the Netscape browser (version 2 or 3, can't remember).. facts are facts.. I'm sure theres more info at wikipedia.
This is sad, just because some 13 year old kid posted the *lame* idea of a firefox founndation, doesn't make it worthy of a Slashdot post. The article that is being linked to is flawed and only quotes "personal thoughts" from random users and devs who are not even employed by the Mozilla Foundation (MoFo).
MoFo is only suggesting that it stops putting direct focus on Mozill Suite development and push the stand alone apps and their back-end code (which will allow integration in the future) like they had planned over a year or so ago. This is nothing new, just an idea of keeping the suite alive as a community project.
No controversy, no firefox foundation, just something that has been in their plans for years..
But oh... wait..., no one really cares to check, as dissing OS and creating lame controversal ideas is more fun.
(yeah, yeah, my spelling sucks).
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Really? What update was that. On my fresh WinXP install, to get the latest IE from microsft, I downloaded the bare minumum to only get the latest IE updates and not all the OS patches, I was still learking at around 30megs, I'd love to see a 3meg patch for IE that actually fixes multiple security issues.
I'm not trying to throw FX down your through, I just think the parent comment has no validity whatsoever.
Cheers
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Oh yeah, so you are saying I could either 1) Download a 10 to 20 meg patch for IE... or 2) Download a 4.5meg Firefox release and have a faster, better, secure, more complaint browser...
Damn that is a tough choice.
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While many (as I) would agree that Buying a MAC or switching over to linux is the answer. Unfortunaty, those are better answers for YOU, and would require a hunge amount of time, and or money. (I can't imagine having to re-teach my mom how to do things in a MAC or Linux).
The simple answer is IE. There are over 100+ different spyware apps that can install themselves automatically (or semi-automatic by disguising themselves) via ActiveX and javascript that can affect your system via IE.
Your answer is switching mom and pop over to an alternative browser. My suggestion for the easiest transition would definitally be Mozilla Firefox, although k-meleon and opera are good too.
The second problem would be Outlook, either upgrade them to Outlook 2003 (which still has issues and I'm sure more issues will be discovered) or move them over to another E-mail app. (I suggest Thunderbird, but others may differ).
I tell you this by experience as the only problems I have had with parents computers are IE/Outlook related. My dad swears he never installs anything via links or IE, but spyware always pops-up and I end up tracking down the source IE.
Alternatives are disabling allot of features in IE and Outlook, but that would make them close to unfunctional.
I think you have a mis conception of what Nvu is and will be. Yes, it is taken from Composer, but more recently it is taken from Glazman's Composer++.
This will definitally not be the old buggy mozilla composer that it used to be. Daniel Glazman has some hot stuff up his sleevs for Nvu (a.k.a. composer ++).
Not to mention, since AOL fired all the Moz Devs, Lindows is now forking out money to Daniel to get Nvu up and running.
"In addition to automatically detecting junk mail using the same method as Mozilla Mail, Thunderbird also sanitizes HTML in mail marked as junk in order to better protect your privacy and give peace of mind when viewing a message identified as junk.".
In other words YES, it does. As long as the message is marked as JUNK MAIL, it will stripp it of anything that could be dangerous for viewing, if it is not dangerous, just mark as "not junk";)
Funny enough, most users don't know about Extensions, and no, the links aren't only for Mozilla, Click on the "Show Extensions for: Thunderbird" link to only show the related extensions
Very stable, it is based off of the Mozilla Mail/News 1.5a which is a VERY stable mail client. Thunderbird is only 0.1 in terms of being a Stand-Alone App (with a load of new features).
Lies... My God, what a pathetic way to try and get your idea across to people, "yeah, I worked for netscape". Oh! Were you that ugly-ass coffee boy they had as their whore?
First off, Scott McGregor NO LONGER WORKS ON MOZILLA officially, what I mean by that he is no loger paid to "work" on Mozilla. Thunderbird is just his love child. Many.. many month ago Blake Ross promised us Thunderbird when Phoenix reached 0.5 (ok, he said "hopefully"). But Blake is busy (school). So Scott McGregor realized the importance of thunderbird and took it on. Ego? Hell I sure hope he has one after pulling this one off!
Dude, you need to re-think your life before you waste it on posts like this anymore.
I completly understand mozila.org's stance on this. Contrary to what most people believe, MOZILLA is NOT a end user product. it is the base code for people to use to supply their own product (hence Netscape 7, phoenix (5), K-meleon, Gnome, ghostzilla, etc.)
The worst thing that could happen is newcomers using bugzilla as their "discusion forum". I do agree though that some kind of gecko based browser should be added to the CD. What about phoenix? their is a HUGE user support group and lot's of related pages.
1.- What can I do to help?
We need all the distribution we can get. Tell your family. Tell your friends. Tell your coworkers. If you're a student, get it distributed at your college. Submit a story to Slashdot and other news sites about the release. Make some noise on your blog. Spread the word!
Why not include it?
In the next month or so, I plan to build my own mozilla and phoenix and re-distribute it. Would anyone be interested?
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You obviously havn't lived in another country where you pretty much *can't sue* for anything.
I doubt this guy is going to get very much money, but thanks to him MS will probably work harder and faster to get those users who's XBox's are f*^& and get them replacements ASAP.
If it's like any of the other stories I've heard, MS is making him jump through loopholes saying his system is fine, and that if it isn't, he's still going to have to wait for X amount of months for a replacement. To me, that is being screwed over by the big guys.
In other countries I've lived it (and I love them), if you buy a defective product, your screwed. Unless it's a company who's very credible and wants to preserve their image more than abidding by the small amount of law that is required, then you're stuck with shit.
Until you get butt-raped by a company, I don't think you learn to appreciate what makes America so nice were you actually have a voice to fix things you think are wrong. All other contries I've lived in you would either be killed by the company, get death threats, or the judge would get paid off and you'd be even more screwed.
Just my 2 cents.
Maybe because we actually know what we are talking about.
Brendan Eich worked at Netscape back when the web was pioneered.. he created Javascript while there, and wrote the entire javascript engine for the Netscape browser (version 2 or 3, can't remember).. facts are facts.. I'm sure theres more info at wikipedia.
What fixes are you talking about, the only thing I see that could be viewed as 'bloat' is the 'sanatize' option.
Firefox 1.0 has this, just hidden in the privacy pref.
The goal of Firefox is to keep the interface simple, yet provide an ever-improving backend for making killer apps... hence XULRunner.
One day, firefox will only be a shell that rides on the awesome XULRunner platform.
That is exactly what this release is for.
"testers and developers (a.k.a Web authors and extension developers) only".
This is only alpha 1, there will be an alpha 2, beta and a few RC's... so yes, this is exactly what you are asking for and more.
Whatever.
Before more people bitch and moan, Binary Patching is going to be available for Firefox 1.1
So issues like these will only be a few kb away as apposed to 4megs (still a lot less than most of IE's updates).
I'm not sure how this got so hyped up, but this is not IBM waking up looking for a Firefox Dev, they already had one. Darin Fisher.
He moved on to bigger and better things at Google, so really all this Hype is over a simple position replacement ad.
Blah... the media sucks.
Ha.
Yeah, Princess Sparkle is pretty hot, I'd go for it.
This is sad, just because some 13 year old kid posted the *lame* idea of a firefox founndation, doesn't make it worthy of a Slashdot post. The article that is being linked to is flawed and only quotes "personal thoughts" from random users and devs who are not even employed by the Mozilla Foundation (MoFo).
MoFo is only suggesting that it stops putting direct focus on Mozill Suite development and push the stand alone apps and their back-end code (which will allow integration in the future) like they had planned over a year or so ago. This is nothing new, just an idea of keeping the suite alive as a community project.
No controversy, no firefox foundation, just something that has been in their plans for years..
But oh... wait..., no one really cares to check, as dissing OS and creating lame controversal ideas is more fun.
(yeah, yeah, my spelling sucks).
Really?
What update was that. On my fresh WinXP install, to get the latest IE from microsft, I downloaded the bare minumum to only get the latest IE updates and not all the OS patches, I was still learking at around 30megs, I'd love to see a 3meg patch for IE that actually fixes multiple security issues.
I'm not trying to throw FX down your through, I just think the parent comment has no validity whatsoever.
Cheers
Oh yeah, so you are saying I could either
1) Download a 10 to 20 meg patch for IE... or
2) Download a 4.5meg Firefox release and have a faster, better, secure, more complaint browser...
Damn that is a tough choice.
Be friendly to the Mozilla.org mirrors, they
have set up an official Bittorent seeder.
-Jed
( http://bittorrent.mozilla.org/ )
Wierd, my account dates back to 1995, and I got an e-mail about the storage about 3 months ago, and since then had 250megs.
Unfortunatly hotmail sucks, and is too slow.
O'well. Anyone want my account?
For all the GMail users out there, some must have extensions
- GMail Notifier
- GMailCompose
Agreed. One of the issues was the license for the grafics, the author has stated he would be willing to change it for mozilla.org.
While the new theme isn't *bad*, it is not nearly as profesional as QUTE is, and a terrible first impression for new users who are coming off of IE.
Sad, sad, sad. Wish this could have been discussed first like in the old days (pheonix).
While many (as I) would agree that Buying a MAC or switching over to linux is the answer. Unfortunaty, those are better answers for YOU, and would require a hunge amount of time, and or money. (I can't imagine having to re-teach my mom how to do things in a MAC or Linux).
The simple answer is IE.
There are over 100+ different spyware apps that can install themselves automatically (or semi-automatic by disguising themselves) via ActiveX and javascript that can affect your system via IE.
Your answer is switching mom and pop over to an alternative browser. My suggestion for the easiest transition would definitally be Mozilla Firefox, although k-meleon and opera are good too.
The second problem would be Outlook, either upgrade them to Outlook 2003 (which still has issues and I'm sure more issues will be discovered) or move them over to another E-mail app. (I suggest Thunderbird, but others may differ).
I tell you this by experience as the only problems I have had with parents computers are IE/Outlook related. My dad swears he never installs anything via links or IE, but spyware always pops-up and I end up tracking down the source IE.
Alternatives are disabling allot of features in IE and Outlook, but that would make them close to unfunctional.
Just my 2cents
I think you have a mis conception of what Nvu is and will be. Yes, it is taken from Composer, but more recently it is taken from Glazman's Composer++.
This will definitally not be the old buggy mozilla composer that it used to be. Daniel Glazman has some hot stuff up his sleevs for Nvu (a.k.a. composer ++).
Not to mention, since AOL fired all the Moz Devs, Lindows is now forking out money to Daniel to get Nvu up and running.
Might want to take a look at the
:)
Officially Unofficiall Mozila Bit Torrent page here:
http://www.metashops.co.uk/mozilla/
I'm sure it would be best if we all targeted one bit torrent (for faster downloading/uploading).
Plus they list a few Linux and Mac options too
"In addition to automatically detecting junk mail using the same method as Mozilla Mail, Thunderbird also sanitizes HTML in mail marked as junk in order to better protect your privacy and give peace of mind when viewing a message identified as junk.".
;)
In other words YES, it does. As long as the message is marked as JUNK MAIL, it will stripp it of anything that could be dangerous for viewing, if it is not dangerous, just mark as "not junk"
Funny enough, most users don't know about Extensions, and no, the links aren't only for Mozilla, Click on the "Show Extensions for: Thunderbird" link to only show the related extensions
What? They are! You go "customize" than drag and drop.
Very stable, it is based off of the Mozilla Mail/News 1.5a which is a VERY stable mail client.
Thunderbird is only 0.1 in terms of being a Stand-Alone App (with a load of new features).
Make sure you get your favorite features from the extensions ;)
h ttp://texturizer.net/thunderbird/extensions.html
Extensions:
http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/
Lies...
My God, what a pathetic way to try and get your idea across to people, "yeah, I worked for netscape". Oh! Were you that ugly-ass coffee boy they had as their whore?
First off, Scott McGregor NO LONGER WORKS ON MOZILLA officially, what I mean by that he is no loger paid to "work" on Mozilla. Thunderbird is just his love child. Many.. many month ago Blake Ross promised us Thunderbird when Phoenix reached 0.5 (ok, he said "hopefully"). But Blake is busy (school). So Scott McGregor realized the importance of thunderbird and took it on. Ego? Hell I sure hope he has one after pulling this one off!
Dude, you need to re-think your life before you waste it on posts like this anymore.
Get the facts straight.
On the net and kAzAa, Gnutella, etc, there are MUCH smaller versions of GTA1, 28meg, full game.
What's with the 300+ megs??
The worst thing that could happen is newcomers using bugzilla as their "discusion forum". I do agree though that some kind of gecko based browser should be added to the CD. What about phoenix? their is a HUGE user support group and lot's of related pages.
(phoenix forum )
(phoenix help/themes/extensions/etc. )
As the developer's say;
1.- What can I do to help?
Why not include it?We need all the distribution we can get. Tell your family. Tell your friends. Tell your coworkers. If you're a student, get it distributed at your college. Submit a story to Slashdot and other news sites about the release. Make some noise on your blog. Spread the word!
In the next month or so, I plan to build my own mozilla and phoenix and re-distribute it. Would anyone be interested?