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Remove iPod European Volume Cap

bsodmike writes "This is a complete how-to for removing the EU Cap in the new iPods allowing 104dB bliss! Thanks to everyone @ #eucap including UnixMonkey, Keaner, Silvacow, m@rk et al." Some countries have an upper limit of 100dB for consumer devices, so the European version of the iPod is "crippled."

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  1. iPod isn't the only thing that will be crippled. by checkyoulater · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you listen to your iPod at 100+ dB for a prolonged period of time, you might find yourself with hearing loss. Broken iPods can be fixed or replaced, but unfortunately your eardrums are permanent, and non replaceable.

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  2. Slightly [ot] by gazbo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    These files and anything else on this site are here for private purposes only and SHOULD NOT BE DOWNLOADED OR VIEWED WHATSOEVER!

    Why the fuck do people bother with that crap? Do they really think that they have cunningly found a legal loophole that every lawyer in the world has missed? Do they not realise that if they trotted out that defence in any court in the world the judge would just laugh at them?

    Gah.

  3. Re:Incredible. by gazbo · · Score: 4, Informative

    An increase of 3dB is equivalent to doubling the power output. 4dB is quite significant.

  4. And I thought... by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 5, Funny

    It said "140db" cap! Hot damn! If it did that, I'd buy 2 for my car and drive around like a hoodlem.

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  5. Re:Do we really need this kind of protection? by chnuschti · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually in most European Countries the Taxpayer will pay for your disability. So it is in the interest of everybody to protect dumbasses from themselfs Just my 2 cents

  6. Re:Do we really need this kind of protection? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How much money was spent in the House of Reps. and Senate debating, drafting, and approving this bill?

    Since the law is European, my guess would be $0.00.

  7. Re:That just goes to show you by Mikey-San · · Score: 4, Informative

    This has nothing to do with DRM, the DCMA, or whatever the hell you think you're talking about. Not everything defined limit on technology in the world is.

    In fact, this is legislation that defines appropriate maximum volumes for noise-emitting consumer devices in public or workplace areas in different countries in the EU.

    http://www.econsumer.konsumentverket.se/mallar/e n/ artikel.asp?lngCategoryId=1312&lngArticleId=26 33

    It's a little different than being told by some protecting-its-assets company what you can and can't do with the product you bought (like Microsoft stepping on Xbox modding, and using the widely abused DMCA to do it). If you use a stereo in public in some EU countries, and you crank it up over 100dB, you are breaking the law. They don't really care about your possessions and what you want to do with it, and they have no reason to.

    I LOVE this, actually, and wish they'd implement it where I live (Virginia). I'm trying to watch a movie in my house, for example, with my girlfriend, and we want to sit and enjoy the movie. We DON'T want some asshat sitting at the stop light with his BIG FAT SPEAKERS going insane and making our drinks ripple from a hundred feet away.

    Do a little reading next time, please.

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  8. I'll give you 4dB by jolshefsky · · Score: 4, Funny
    1. Insert earphones in ear as normal.
    2. Note the distance from your ear to the earphone diaphragm.
    3. Since sound level is reduced by the square of the distance, mash the headphones into your ear so the distance is 0.63 (sqrt(10^-0.4)) the original distance.

    This will increase the amount of sound reaching your ears by 4dB.

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  9. Re:People who do this by infornogr · · Score: 4, Informative

    Otherwise known as circumaural headphones, and not even all of those will help you. You need to seek out closed headphones, which are usually either circumaural or intra-aural (earbuds). If you're in a quiet environment, closed circumaurals don't sound as nice as open circumaurals, because in closed ones the sound is vibrating around in whatever material is keeping the sound out/in, but in some cases they're necessary, such as loud rooms or rooms with other people. Just don't think that because you're buying a big pair of headphones that completely engulfs your ear that you're going to have isolation from the outside world or that the world won't be able to hear what you're listening to.

  10. valid reasons for "104db" by fingal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Before everyone starts going off on 104db being too loud for people to listen to without hearing loss (oops, too slow everybodys started already), people might like to consider a totally valid reason for this patch: the SPL of 104db is only generated when utilising the supplied headphones with the iPOD. If you choose to use better quality yet less sensitive headphones then you will need a higher output to generate the same SPL. However, you are not currently permitted by the powers that be to do this. Also, some people may be listening to non-normalised sound files which have an average volume considerably lower than your average normalised recording. The peaks in non-normalised recordings will be much more likely to be transients which are much less likely to cause problems, but are you "permitted" to raise the average output level up to a reasonable level? I think not...

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    1. Re:valid reasons for "104db" by fingal · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Totally valid point. However, the choice as to whether I want to have less battery life at the expense of better sound quality should be my choice should it not?

      And I suppose that this means that the battery life on the European iPods is better than the American model then?

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    2. Re:valid reasons for "104db" by chrisbw · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Totally valid point. However, the choice as to whether I want to have less battery life at the expense of better sound quality should be my choice should it not?
      And I suppose that this means that the battery life on the European iPods is better than the American model then?

      Depends on what you set the volume at. :)

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  11. Re:Incredible. by jaoswald · · Score: 4, Informative

    "bels" are factors of 10, whic most people mean when they speak of orders of magnitude. decibels are one-tenth of a bel, hence the prefix. 4 dB is 4/10 of a factor of 10, or something like a factor of 2.5.

    1 dB is is a factor of 1.26, i.e. a 25% increase.

    Further complicating the situation is that most people don't listen to their music with an acoustic power meter. Psychoacoustically, there is a non-linear relationship between perceived loudness and acoustic power. The commonly quoted "10 dB is twice as loud" is not an exact relationship, but is rather close at low sound levels.

  12. Better to Cripple the iPod... by bluethundr · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...than your hearing! We're all used to thinking of ourselves as immortal, especially when we are young. When I was a teenager I used to listen to a Sony walkman fully crankin'. Now I have well over a decade of suffeing with tinnitus. Anything over 90db is damaging to the ear. One hearing specialist said that listening to headphones is akin to jamming a pair of firehoses into both ears and turning the water on full blast in terms of the damage it'll do to your hearing. It may sound like hyperbole, but it probably isn't that far from the truth!

    Tinnitus can cause depression, sleeplessness and a host of other psychic and physical maladies. From a personal perspective, if you hear a loud noise that annoys the hell out of you you have two choices. 1)Walk out of the room where you hear the offending noise 2) Turn the sound down! If you have tinnitus, you can't do either of those things. You just have to live with it. There is no cure and by the time you realize that the ringing in your ears isn't going away that's about it. You will hear that sound for the rest of your life! Unless, of course nanomedicine can provide a cure, but don't hold your breath or hang your hopes on that one!

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    1. Re:Better to Cripple the iPod... by HaloZero · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A friend of mine contracted tinnitus after going to an Orgy concert. From what I last heard, she's in the opening stages of dementia, because of the noise in her head. It's really, really sad. She's a great girl, too. :-\

      Made me turn my headphones down, it did.

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    2. Re:Better to Cripple the iPod... by bluethundr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      For what it's worth my hearing is just fine too.

      Like I said, we all think we're immortal, especially when we're young. But we're all put together the same, pal. Physics are physics. I'm glad you're okay, and I'm sure you're banking that you'll always be okay. I used to bank on that too. Now all I can tell you is "don't bank on it"!

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  13. Repeating what was already told... by hummassa · · Score: 5, Informative

    104 dB is (10^0.4) = 2.51188643150958 times louder than 100 dB.

    2B = 10 times louder than 1B
    2dB = 10^0.1 times louder than 1dB

    got it?

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  14. Re:iPod isn't the only thing that will be crippled by JHMirage · · Score: 4, Interesting
    but unfortunately your eardrums are permanent, and non replaceable.

    Except that they aren't.

    Eardrum repair is actually fairly common, and I'd know. I currently sport a 31-year old eardrum and a 7-month old eardrum. And before anyone goes off about it being the Tympanic bones that get damaged, rather than the drum itself, they can give you prostetic bones, as well.

    I tried to talk my Dr. into giving me bionic bones/membranes, but he wasn't too into the idea.

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  15. Re:iPod isn't the only thing that will be crippled by FFFish · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's not your eardrums that are damaged, but the cilia in your cochlea. These are fine hairs that are vibrated as sound waves travel past them, and stimulate the nerves to which they are attached.

    These hairs do not recover from damage. Once the hair is killed, you have lost the ability to hear the frequency that hair was "tuned" for.

    You will experience permanent, irreversible hearing damage at 104dB within five minutes.

    Decibel Exposure Time Guidelines

    Accepted standards for recommended permissible exposure time for continuous time weighted average noise, according to NIOSH and CDC, 2002. For every 3 dBs over 85dB, the permissible exposure time before possible damage can occur is cut in half.

    Continuous dB Permissible Exposure Time

    85 db 8 hours

    88 dB 4 hours

    91 db 2 hours

    94 db 1 hour

    97 db 30 minutes

    100 db 15 minutes

    103 db 7.5 minutes

    106 dB 3.75 min (< 4min)

    109 dB 1.875 min (< 2min)

    112 dB .9375 min (about 1 min)

    115 dB .46875 min (about 30 sec)

    Don't fuck with loud sounds. It's just not worth it.

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  16. Re:iPod isn't the only thing that will be crippled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    These hairs do not recover from damage.

    Are you saying loud music is a major cause of baldness?

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  17. Re:Crippled by DaSkiBum · · Score: 5, Informative

    IIRC, Apple did this because France complained about the 104dB Max volume. iPod sale was banned in France for a short while over this. Blame the French ! :)

  18. Re:iPod isn't the only thing that will be crippled by jafuser · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does that mean I will be deaf in 316,452 years even if I only listen to absolute silence? =)

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  19. Re:iPod isn't the only thing that will be crippled by Hard_Code · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, statistically, you will probably become permanently deaf around 78 years of age.

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  20. Re:iPod isn't the only thing that will be crippled by shamino0 · · Score: 5, Informative
    If you listen to your iPod at 100+ dB for a prolonged period of time, you might find yourself with hearing loss. Broken iPods can be fixed or replaced, but unfortunately your eardrums are permanent, and non replaceable.

    This assumes, of course, that they're talking about 100+ dB of sound pressure (SPL).

    But that's completely ludicrous. The SPL levels are a function of the speaker/headphone design and proximity to your ears in addition to the power output of the amplifier.

    A dB is a unit of ratio between a given level (power, pressure, whatever) and a reference level.

    In this particular case, they're probably talking about dBu or dBV or dBm or some other ratio involving output voltage/power levels.

    104dBu is not the same as 104dBV which is not the same as 104dBm. Either one can translate into high SPL levels, low SPL levels, or anything in between, depending on what kind of speakers, headphones or other amplifiers are attached.

    According to Apple the iPod can put out up to 30mw of RMS power per channel. This is about 29 dBm (20 log(30) ),so it's obviously not what the original article is talking about.

    I'm actually rather curious now to know what that unqualified "104 dB" figure is referring to, since every different brand/model of headphones you use will have a different SPL for any given power level.

  21. Re:iPod isn't the only thing that will be crippled by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah bionic hearing is cool and all, but it sucks having to hear "doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo" every time you try to listen to something.

    - Steve Austin