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Python 2.3 Final Released

An anonymous reader writes "Nineteen months in the making, Python 2.3 has just been released. With a plethora of changes since version 2.2, this release is definately worth the upgrade. Be sure to read the Release Notes and the Highlights file for more information."

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  1. ATTENTION! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Upgrading to Python 2.3 will _not_ increase your skill levels, and will NOT make your AOL downloads faster!

  2. No takers for "subscription"? [Somewhat OT] by InfiniteWisdom · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    OK, somewhat off topic, but I notice there are no comments posted before it becomes visible to the general public.

    Are there no takers for Slashdot's "premium" service?

    1. Re:No takers for "subscription"? [Somewhat OT] by winkydink · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Subcribers can't reply any sooner than non-subscribers

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    2. Re:No takers for "subscription"? [Somewhat OT] by hendridm · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      You can tell if someone is a subscriber or not if they have an asterisk next to their user number. If you look at any given article you will notice quite a few subscribers.

  3. Re:Second fucking post by InfiniteWisdom · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    OK, so morse code is detected as ASCII art, but that huge limp phallus is not?

  4. im so sexy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    god im sooooo damn sexy

  5. KDE Myths by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The KDE project is famous for its funded and organised trolling of weblogs and message board associated with Linux and Free software/open source. Outrageous newbie impressing claims are made for the software and huge quanities of FUD are spread to destroy competitors. If this sounds familiar, then you are correct, most of these tactics were lifted straight from Microsoft's arsenal of dirty tricks. The Windows look and feel is not the only thing the KDE project has copied! In this short article I will address some of the lies and FUD spread by the KDE trolling teams. It is my hope that this, in some small way, will redress the balance and re-introduce two things almost eradicated by the KDE project: Honesty and facts.

    Myth #1 - KDE is more integrated than GNOME

    The oft-heard cry of the noisiest KDE advocates. No explanation is given, the reader is expected to simply grok the wholesomeness of KDE and the lack of this mystical quality in GNOME. It is nonsense of course. Neither desktop is particularly "integrated" compared to Windows XP, and certainly not compared any version of the Apple Mac. Whatever "integrated" actually means.

    Myth #2 - KDE is easier to use

    Again, such nebulous arguments are never explained, and the reader is expected to simply understand the truth of the zealots statement. Both KDE and GNOME have user-interface irritations (all systems do), but "ease of use" is not a simple thing to measure. KDE has never been subjected to detailed user testing, unlike GNOME, and the claims of user-friendliness are from crazed supporters and not average users. Furthermore, the KDE faithful rarely look beyond simple-minded copying of Windows, and forget that administering a desktop system is just as important as having widgets in the correct place on the toolbar. For example: What about application installation and removal? GNOME has the excellent RedCarpet by Ximian, which makes the installation, removal and updating of applications trivial. KDE users are expected to fend for themselves with brutal command line driven systems. GNOME also has the excellent Ximian setup tools to handle various tricky cross-platform and potentially risky system configuration operations. KDE offers none of this, only a few small half-assed Linux-only tools, which make no attempt at check-pointing to return to known working configurations.

    Myth #3 - KDE is more popular

    In what sense? Arguably more people use KDE, but it is a close run thing. Most KDE zealots use the results of online polls as proof of their superior userbase - which is, quite frankly, complete and utter nonsense. Online polls are the joke of the century; it doesn't even require a motivated script kiddie to render then worthless. A single post alerting the faithful on a zealot-ridden site can skew the result so much it makes American presidential elections look fair and well organised. Popularity is also difficult to measure when *both* GNOME and KDE are frequently installed on the same system. The systems can co-exist and even run at the same time, except for certain applications such as panels. Many KDE users actually run GNOME applications for their superior features and stability, not realising that by doing so they are barely running KDE at all.

    One of the few solid measures of popularity is commercial use of a desktop, and here, GNOME is far ahead with both Hewlett Packard and Sun committing to using GNOME as the desktop for their Unix systems. This also ties in with the previously mentioned ease of use. Sun's major contribution to the GNOME project is in the areas of user/developer documentation, testing, accessiblity and user-testing. Three of the less glamourous parts of desktop development. The arrival of the GNOME 2.x series will see these contributions reach fruitition and allow GNOME to make a quantum leap ahead of KDE in most of the basic computer/user issues.

    Myth #4 - Konqueror is

  6. Python and Scheme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Scheme is a lisp derivative properly tail recursive language. A short summary of differences between them:

    Scheme has the following advantages to Python:

    * Supports proper closures, with lexical scoping.
    * Any function can be defined anonymously, via the lambda keyword.
    * Is supported by a standard (R5RS, IEEE)
    * Makes it easy to program in a functional style, i.e., without side effects.
    * Supports macros.
    * Mathematically oriented, rather then processor oriented, numeric model.
    * Supports fairly optimized compilation to native code.

    Python has the following advantages to Scheme:

    * Standard object system (OTOH, "Any scheme programmer has written an object system, sometimes two")
    * Many builtin or standard functions for easy programmings, such as regular expressions or Internet connectivity.
    * Many builtin data types.
    * Relatively main-stream syntax.
    * One standard implementation: easy to write extension modules in a systems programming language (C/Java).
    * Main-stream control structures (while, for).

    But which one is better?

  7. Re:I see whitespace is still syntactically relevan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Ah I see you are an idiot.

  8. on wxGlade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Welp, kinda off-topic, but kinda on-topic, since wxGlade was written in wxPython and wxPython is a wxWindows wrapper for Python (chew on THAT logic, you fucking moderating scum!), I would like to posit the following questions:

    - When is the next version of wxGlade gonna be out?
    - Is it just me, or is wxGlade just about the most mind-boggling least intuitive holy-fuck-this-is-hard-to-use piece of software ever written? Yeah, I'm probably a retard, and you're probably l337 and whip up an application with it in no time, but holy fucking SHIT batman, this is supposed to be a fucking RAD tool.
    - For the love of christ, the fucking tutorial raises more questions than it answers!

  9. Re:Why Python is good at our university by RestiffBard · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    lemme get this straight. you speak chinese, english, and I'm guessing a few programming languages as well? So when do you have time to eat with all that learning? No wonder Chinese people are so frequently thin.

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  10. Re:more grammar stupidities from the illiterate by elflord · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    My favourites:

    lose / loose
    your / you're
    rediculous
    My favourite grammar glitch is ending a question with a period.

  11. Does anyone know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    how many points you need for excellent karma?
    (Sorry for completely Offtopic, AC for obvious reasons)

  12. Re:Second fucking post by jericho4.0 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Why the hell do people mod comments connected to ASCII trolls? No one will see them anyway, except for the people who've selected to mod up threads if comments are highly rated. So, to those idiots with mod points,; DON'T MOD THIS UP!!!

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