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Red Hat Sues SCO, Sets Up Legal Fund

An anonymous reader writes "Red Hat has released a PR Newswire article stating that it intends to sue SCO Group to prove that it doesn't infringe any of SCO's intellectual property regarding the Red Hat Linux platform, and to hold it accountable for its actions and smear campaign. They've also announced the creation of a legal fund, to which they've pledged $1M US dollars to fight complaints such as these, called the 'Open Source Now' fund."

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  1. Question for lawyers... by bloggins02 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does this help RedHat's customers? I mean, SCO can't really do anything to RedHat's customers while they are involved in a lawsuit with RedHat themselves?

    Or can they? I honestly don't know...

  2. Hmmm...Subpoenas by radulovich · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is quite interesting, and should impact SCO considerably. By initiating this action, Red Hat can enter the "discovery" phase, which will allow the lawyers (and developers?) to see the ALL of the code that SCO says infringes on their intellectual property.

    The end result should be that Red Hat will be able to wipe away the FUD, and get down to the bottom of what SCO really owns. Assuming SCO owns anything, Red Hat can then begin work on removing that code. Also, if Red Hat wins, they will probably get monetary damages, which always helps.

    Go Red Hat!

    (Now I suppose I should actually buy the distro instead of downloading the ISO's...)

    -Mark

  3. Re:Is Red Hat big enough to fight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The uncertainty around Linux is hurting RedHat now. This isn't necessarily a billion dollar lawsuit. They are basically just saying "put up or shut up". Maybe IBM will contribute to the fund. IBM is fighting its own lawsuit. Remember, IBM doesn't sell their own Linux, they package other RedHat and SUSE. Nobody should want IBM to open up its big bag-o-patents as this is somewhat of a Pandora's box.

    The important thing is that RedHat is trying to force SCO's hand rather than just waiting for SCO to start suing it or its customers. If there is infringing code, hopefully SCO will have to say what it is.

  4. Re:Story on ZDNet too by bigjocker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the ZDNET article:

    "We have asked the courts to declare no violation of intellectual property and trade secrets have occurred," Szulik said. "We've been patient, we've listened, but when our customers and the whole open-source community are threatened with innuendo and rumor, it's time to act."

    They can count on all the money I can spare. We have waited for a long time for a Legal Fund to be formed and here is it, let's put our wallets where our mouth is and start helping our side with the real tool that can deliver this FUDfest to an end (in the end the truth or justice will not be the fundamental matter to settle this): money.

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  5. Re:Sure they are by Mr+Bill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's interesting to see that we look at the amount of money a company has in order to figure out who is most likely to come out on top when it comes to litigation.

  6. Re:Be careful what you wish for! by saddino · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Red Hat may win. That would prove that it is illegal to talk bad about your competetor.

    No, it would prove that it is illegal to make false claims about your competitor.

    The Microsoft can sue anyone who uses a dollar sign in place of an s when referring to them.

    No again.

    Then /. is in trouble. No one can post anything bad about them.

    And a final no. This might help you.

  7. Re:Is Red Hat big enough to fight? by robslimo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nah. At the risk of taking a too cynical view, I think Red Hat may have observed the recent spikes in SCO's stock price and decided to do a little pumping themselves. Maybe they figure if the idiot investors of the world thought SCO's stock should be more valuable because they made waves with their lawsuit and general FUD, that Red Hat could appeal to the Linux loyalists and maybe the other half of the idiot investors and do a little pumping of their own.

  8. Re:Is Red Hat big enough to fight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Rubbish. Microsoft relies on the government-granted monopoly of copyright (and lately patent). Microsoft represents levels of control over information dissemination that Stalin could only dream of via DRM. Microsoft is fundamentally anticapitalist, and represents a 45-billion dollar black hole sucking in capital from companies that might have otherwise produced something physical and useful.

  9. Re:Is Red Hat big enough to fight? by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 5, Insightful
    A goofball ruling might have IBM handing over a few Bills, but Red Hat would go out of business altogether.

    There's a second reason for RedHat to file it's own case against SCO: The SCO/IBM lawsuit is a complicated case that could go on for years. SCO could bury Linux under an avalanche of FUD by then. On the other hand, a lawsuit for declaratory relief could go much faster. In a realatively simple case, RH could simply say:

    • They've been selling code under the GPL,
    • They were clearly aware the code they're claiming ownership of as of their filings against IBM,
    • They were still selling the code as of that date
    • SCO is willfully frustrating the GPL community's ability to determine which code is supposedly SCO's -- and their CEO has stated that this is because he is afraid that the Linux community would excise such code.
    • These are the terms of the GPL
    • We request a declaration that all of the code distributed by SCO as of that date be declared licensed consistent with the GPL.

    The nice thing about this is that -- especially if it avoids any contentious facts, it could be ammenable to a summary finding in a few mnths rather than waiting a generation or two for the IBM suit to wind it's way through the courts.

    A declaration of GPLization of the code would pretty much absolve Red Hat of any claim by SCO. It might also leave SCO open to suits by Copyright owners of Linux that SCO has been in violation of the GPL by threatening users of that same code P>With a declaration that Linux is 'clean' visa-vis SCO, those secondary suits can afford to take the more leisurely pace that more commonly follow.

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  10. Re:Is Red Hat big enough to fight? by Creep73 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. If the Red Hat vs. SCO goes to trial before SCO vs. IBM SCO will need to substantiate their claims earlier then they would have wanted giving IBM prep time.

    2. Red Hat may or may not be big enough to fight SCO however SCO will burn through money fighting them. This could be the first of several lawsuits brought against SCO because of its recent tactics.

    3. SCO is trying to convince Linux users to purchase Unix licenses to protect themselves from lawsuits. This type of blackmail should not be tolerated and could end up hurting companies like Red Hat. It would stand to reason that Red Hat would wish to protect their customers and this lawsuit should create confidence within the Linux market. (Something people have been worried about)

    I applaud Red Hat.