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Writing with Elvish Fonts

dj_whitebread writes "Have you ever wanted to write in the Elvish script? Now's your chance to have your Elvish text look just like Tolkien's. This page gives you all the instructions. The typographer in me has to respect these guy's efforts!"

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  1. Elvish Meetups by bluethundr · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you want to understand the invented languages of Tolkien, a good place to start is with a meetup group.

    Some people take their Elvishness pretty sillyessny...erm meant to say seriously... :)

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  2. Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    In case the site (or routes to the site) get slashdotted. Here is a mirror.

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  3. Conscript/Unicode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I appreciate the mapping by Daniel and all, but if you are really interested in Cirth and Tengwar, push for the Unicode inclusion. http://www.evertype.com/standards/csur/tengwar.htm l and http://std.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/wg2/docs/n1641/n1641. htm

    For a font that does PUA and Plane 15 implementation of this standard use code 2001 from http://home.att.net/~jameskass/code2001.htm

    Logban (A logical language for human speech), Quenya, Sindarian, English, etc. can all be written in Tengwar. I believe there are people using it for just about every language, including esperanto.

    So, while the keymap is nice, use the Unicode stuff and help push it through to final inclusion.

  4. Hardly a new idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    There have been (several) Tengwar variants for TeX for at least 10-20 years....

    I'm just surprised nobody made a set for windows yet, if this is the first one

  5. Available for many years by CoolGopher · · Score: 2, Informative

    This isn't anything new. There have been tengwar and sindarin TTF fonts available for many years, at least 8 or 9 years.

    The reason I know is that I did a project in school that was related to precisely tengwar and sindarin, and I managed to get hold of a couple of TTFs which made my life easier (but I won't say easy - querty + elvish = not good). Should still have the TTFs on a floppy somewhere.

    Got good marks for the project too. I'm guessing it might've been related to the fact that the teacher couldn't read a substantial part of it as it was in fact written in sindarin... =)

  6. Re:The battle of the Fonts... by 1u3hr · · Score: 4, Informative
    Tengwar vs. Aurebesh!

    No contest. Tolkien was a language expert. Elvish has all the structure of a real language (loosely based on Finnish, I seem to remember). From a brief look Aurebesh looks like just a substitution code for English (or am I wrong?). There's a lot more to a language than an alphabet. Also, the Elvish scripts are beautiful; and if you like more angular characters, look at his Dwarvish runes.

  7. this is futile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    1. this is too complex and simply not the right thing to do;
    2. the results are pathetis;
    3. this is for windows only.

    the correct solution exists. see http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/jcb/fonts/TengTeX/doc /tengdoc.pdf

  8. They all work fine on my Mac.. by caveat · · Score: 4, Informative

    With OS X, just drag the .ttf files to /Library/Fonts and restart any running apps, maybe log out for good measure. Works fine, I just installed all of them.

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  9. Re:The battle of the Fonts... by JorenDahn · · Score: 5, Informative

    >Elvish has all the structure of a real language (loosely based on Finnish, I seem to remember).

    Actually it wasn't based on Finnish at all, but rather inspired by it. It has it's own structure, just like any other language. Quenya was (in some ways) meant to capture the beauty that Tolkien saw in the Finnish language. In the early versions of Quenya he did use some loanwords from Finnish, but those were of course all replaced. Also there are many fundamental differences besides simple words (since it is, of course, it's own language). The modern (or "completed" if you prefer, although he never actually finished them) version have no connections with any real languages. If you get to really know the internal linguistic history of Tolkien's languages you can see how their world was meant to connect to ours (hint: in the LotR movies the Rohirrim speak a real language).

    For some great info on the relationship between the Elvish languages and real world languages (primarily Finnish), check out this great article: http://www.sci.fi/~alboin/finn_que.htm

    Yes, I'm a big fat nerd. I even have my own page on Tolkien: http://jerek.deciv.com/tolkien.htm

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  10. Re:Mod parent up! by JorenDahn · · Score: 2, Informative

    >A substitution code is not a language!

    Indeed, if you wrote english in this it would be like trying to write English with, say, Arabic letters. With some substitutions and alterations (Elvish uses different consonants and vowels than English does obviously) it's possible, although it's still English, and wouldn't even be using the alphabet technically properly, since you'd have to change things to get it to work. Tolkien devised his own method for writing English in the Tengwar (as well as with the Cirth - Dwarvish Runes), and that's what people follow (the great majority of the time) whe writing English with the Tengwar, but it still is written differently than real Quenya or Sindarin (the two most well known and developed Elvish languages).

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  11. Re:This is the reason Unicode is so screwed up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Stupid stuff like this is one reason Unicode is such a mess: "Unicode can now support charsets such as Tolkien's Tengwar and Linear B!"

    Yeah, but at what cost? Am I the only one unhappy with the current Unicode? The problem is that there's just not one Unicode -- there's THREE (UTF-8, UTF-16, and UTF-32).


    Err no. This is one unicode - Universal Character Set (UCS). UTF-8, UTF-16 and UTF-32 are just three different ways to encode this character set into an 8 bit, 16 bit and 32 bit character stream. There are other ways to encode as well.

    Encoding has nothing to do with what is included in the character set.

  12. Learn Elvish! by ashot · · Score: 2, Informative

    UT has a class dedicated to the study of Tolkien's languages.

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  13. Re:Don't bother if you're not a Windows user. by usmcpanzer · · Score: 2, Informative

    At http://www.omniglot.com/writing/alternative.htm is a great resource for all types of writting systms. The alternative page has many made up written languages, which include fonts for all type of systems.

  14. LaTeX has had a Tengwar font for many moons by topologist · · Score: 4, Informative
    Interesting. I'd also like to note that LaTeX, the Knuth/Lamport typesetting system available on a great many platforms (including Windows), has had an elvish font for several years. I am no elvish scholar of course, so I can't comment on the appeal of the LaTeX approach to the elvish cognoscenti :-)
    \documentclass{article}

    \begin{document}

    \newfont{\elvish}{tengwar}

    The One Ring: {\elvish

    Three rings for the elven kings under the sky Nine for mortal men doomed to die Seven for the dwarf lords in their halls of stone One for the dark lord on his dark throne In the land of Mordor where the shadows lie One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them One ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them In the land of Mordor where the shadows lie.}

    \end{document}

  15. Re:From the site. by Christopher+Thomas · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm no Tolkein expert, but can anyone tell me if "runes" here correspond to the actual, real world runes, that is, letters of the ancient Runic alphabet?

    The runes used on the map in "The Hobbit" did use the real runic alphabet (or a close variant thereof). The Cirth described in the appendices of LOTR was comletely different, however. So the official answer is probably "no".

  16. Re:Helllllllo copyright violation by dvdeug · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is a copyright violation until shown otherwise.

    Fonts and scripts aren't subject to copyright. (The computer programs that draw fonts are - and are also just known as fonts - but the pictures they draw aren't. This is also true for the US, but not all other countries.)

    under the current Disney regime, it's death plus ninety years.

    No. It's seventy years from death, or 95 years in the case of stuff printed before 1978.

  17. Re:Paul Haeberli's runes? by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Informative

    You could try this for loads of Futhark rune fonts One of them might be close to what you're looking for.

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  18. Re:Don't bother if you're not a Windows user. by JessLeah · · Score: 2, Informative

    New Macs start at $799.