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SCO "Disappointed" by Red Hat Lawsuit
schmidt349 writes "SCO has issued a preliminary response to Red Hat's lawsuit, in which President and CEO Darl McBride advises that SCO will prepare a "legal response" to Red Hat's requests for injunctive relief. In addition, he promises that the countersuit that SCO will file may include "counterclaims for copyright infringement and conspiracy." His final statement-- that Red Hat's "decision to file legal action does not seem conducive to the long-term survivability of Linux--" is chilling in light of the business strategy that SCO has adopted in its sales of UnixWare licenses to actual and potential users of the Linux kernel."
Hi Darl, you fascist, I run Linux on a dozen boxes. Please send me a bill that I will be happy to wipe my ass with and send back to you.
What an arrogant little prick.
We have been showing a portion of this code since early June.
Um...no you haven't. Nobody has seen this comparison but Darl McBride and his evil twin brother.
SCO's "Disappointed"? Awe poor SCO.
Well SCO, I'm very disappointed in YOU!
Now go to your room and don't come out until you've thought about what you've done.
See the Pictures of the Flood of '08
"How dare you counter our frivolous claims with an honest-to-goodness lawsuit based on real facts!?!?!"
We at the SCO are disappointed you did not roll over and die when we used the word lawyers.
We are awaiting further instruction from out legal team, however this may be delayed as our current course of action provided by our lawyers lists only the phrase "2. ???" for our next step. We are awaiting clarification from them before continuing.
There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell 'em.
I liked Red Hat's letter to SCO. So much that it leaves me wondering what would happen if every Linux user coordinated sending a copy with their demands to SCO on the same day. We could all demand responses.
Instead of supporting their FUD campaign with license fees, we could create cost by forcing them to deal with a mountain of letters. Make sure you send it registered/certified so that someone has to sign for it.
Just picture the tractor trailer backing up full of letters...
I used to wonder what was so holy about a silent night, now I have a child.
McBride's reality checker is broken. We tried to send him replacement parts, but he keeps sending them back to us with a note saying that he doesn't need reality since he owns Unix. Poor bastard...
US Democracy:The best person for the job (among These pre-selected choices...)
Saddam Hussein "Disappointed" by U.S. liberation of Iraq....news at 11!
Well said.
Essentially, SCO's letter could alternately be read, "Waah! No fair! I'm the only one who can do that! You're not playing nice. I want my mom!"
Go Red Hat. I hope they tie up SCO in court for a nice long time and win their case. SCO seems to be playing the intimidation game and is being very smug -- the tune will change if they get a slap in the face in court. Too bad only Red Hat has had the nads to fight back up to this point.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES!
What SCO said, and what they really meant
SCO has consistently stated that our UNIX System V source code and derivative UNIX code have been misappropriated into Linux 2.4 and 2.5 kernels
We just want to scare you into paying us money. Thats easier than actually producing a product that anyone wants.
We have been educating end users on the risks of running an operating system that is an unauthorized derivative of UNIX.
We have been trying to extort money from you.
SCO's claims are true and we look forward to proving them in court.
If we can get you to give us money, then we don't really have to prove anything. Our lawyers told us that.
Recent correspondence from SCO to Red Hat further explains SCO's position
Holy SH*T someone is calling our bluff, what? They have lawyers? Suing WHO? I can't belive it, threatenting to sue is the way to do business, can't we grease your palm with some of our liscence fee to make this go away?
"Science is about ego as much as it is about discovery and truth " - I said it, so sue me.
Is that too contrived?
What's even worse, is that you'd never know if they actually had them or not. Their story keeps changing.
First they say that they discovered stolen code in December ... no wait, it was March, wait... I think it was January. They said they decided to take legal action when we saw a presentation by IBM people saying that Unix was irrelevant .. no wait .. they decided when they did a code audit .. wait ... when they spoke with some Linux hacker in Keokuk Iowa .. yeh - that's it. Because of course, there is 80 lines of stolen code .. no wait... a couple hundred lines of code .. no, now they have discovered thousands of lines in hundreds of files. That's it. That's the ticket.
They're suing IBM for breach of contract - but don't worry Linux users. Wait, then they thought should sue Linus Torvalds too. They claim he didn't answer their emails about it .. but wait, then they said that they had spoken to him about it in December.
Now they want to go after *all* Linux users .. but wait.. if you buy a license, we won't touch you.
As I said, they may have decided to have good faith discussions with IBM, or Santa Claus, or whovever .. you'd never know it.
I've been swashdotted -- Elmer Fudd
long int infinity = 32768;
/
for (i=0,i<=inifinity,++i){
Sue();
GetCountersued();
CountersueCountersuer();
}
Profit!
I leave it to you to work out all the bugs for SCO and upload the source via CVS to the following ftp server: ftp://ftp.scogroup.com/evilbits/code/profitengine
Thanks!
Here's a suggestion that I am proposing for Darl McBride, which he is free to use without paying royalties to myself:
I would pay good money for that!Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
IBM has maintained a consistent position of "Oh come on. Will you fucking assholes get real?" for the entire affair.
I count this to their eternal credit. They know who's the David and who's the Goliath as well, so they're not even really taking much of a chance. The worst-case is that they just revive AIX.
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"Linux geeks howled a bit, but then wrote off SCO as a bunch of sleazebags and went back to playing live-action roleplaying (LARP) games in their mothers' basements, or whatever it is they do when they're not writing device drivers and complaining about clueless end users."
No surprise to me, though; I'm surprised that SCO is surprised.
Well, no surprise, but I'm surprised that you're suprised that SCO is surprised.
I'm just... surprised.
This man is talking out his ass.
.. we might have a new candidate for Governor of California.
Hey
-- Knowing too much can get you killed, but knowing who knows too much can make you rich.
I am also disappointed that you have chosen litigation rather than good faith discussions with SCO about the problems inherent in Linux
So, Darth McBride finds their lack of good faith discussions disturbing?
The moment they state the file or day, can't you just go look up the good ol' CVS for that day, and see who put it in there?.. I could think of nothing funnier in court than:
....
Monday:
Judge: Please state the files, lines, etc that are in question.
Sco: File xyz.c lines abc.c
Judge: This could be incrimenating, yes.
Tuesday:
Judge: Linux Distro X, do you have anything to say before we proceed?
Penguin: Only that we clean-roomed the files in question and rebuilt the kernel last night while you were sleeping. Any code SCO might lay claim to is no longer an issue.. We had offered to remove the offending material, but SCO never told us where it was... it is now gone. At the courts disgression, we can also remove the source logs of the offending files
meh
Somebody needs to call up RIAA and convince them of the following:
1) All their copyright infringers are using Linux
2) Linux is apparently the same as SCO
3) Thus, the root of all their problems is SCO.
Lock RIAA and SCO up in the same room and let them fight each other. Now that would be a reality show worth watching.
He has altered the license. Pray that he does not alter it any further.
... for some message to pop up somewhere, with some guy going
... I dunno. Is this guy more or less priceless than al-Sahaf? ...
"OH GOD! YES! I DID IT! I COPIED V5 SOURCE CODE INTO THE LINUX KERNEL.
I'M SO SORRY! THE PRESSURE! I COULDN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE! AAAARGH! *sob*"
Whereupon we can all go "you know - you're a dick" and buy him a beer. Then everyone cleans up after him.
As to Dee McBride
Dude - *you're* disappointed? Well let me tell you how *we* feel
yes, we have no bananas
I think that SCO is already intimately familiar with "pot".
Technoli
No, no...
.
Pot makes you sit around and eat chips all day.
SCO is on crack
*******
This is your brain. [Insert picture of a computer running Linux.]
This is your brain on crack. [Insert picture of computer running SCO Unixware.]
Any questions?
I like you, Stuart. You're not like everyone else, here, at Slashdot.
No. We already found the right man for the job.
Dear Mr. "CmdrTaco" Malda and other Slashdot editors:
I appreciated the link in the story to the SCO. It is always best to get the story straight from the horse's mouth. Or, in the case of SCO, the other end of the horse. However, would it be too much trouble to put a "goatse.cx" disclaimer on further links to SCO's website? They are clearly too closely related for my comfort.
On another issue, I understand that there has been conversation regarding changing the SCO icon from it's current Mickey Mouse looking thing to something resembling the goatse.cx picture. I, for one, cast a whole-hearted "no" vote on that potential change. I think that the current Mickey Mouse looking icon accurately reflects the nature of SCO's enterprise and that the proposed alteration might be traumatic for the younger readers of this "family" website.
Thank you for your consideration.
Respectfully,
guacamolefoo
Lots of petrified grits
The following really jumped out at me:
I must say that your decision to file legal action does not seem
conducive to the long-term survivability of Linux.
What Darl meant to say was:
"I must say that our decision to file legal action (against IBM) does not seem conducive to the long-term survivability of SCO."
Yes, but I am still puzzled how he does that with Microsoft's hand up there...
Acts of massive stupidity are almost never covered by warranty. --me.
I'm reminded of a message I once saw to the old Mac EvangeList:
"In future postings, please replace the word 'analyst' with the word 'chimpanzee'."
Naked.