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SCO May Countersue Red Hat, SuSE Joins The Fray

uninet writes "The SCO Group, Inc. today released a statement concerning the lawsuit filed against it yesterday by Red Hat, Inc. The release quotes Darl McBride, SCO's President and CEO, as being 'disappointed' with Red Hat CEO Matthew Szulik for not being 'forthcoming' about Red Hat's intentions in a previous discussion." Reader psykocrime adds "According to this SuSE press release, SuSE has publically announced their support for RedHat's actions against SCO. Quoting from the press release: 'SCO has already been halted in Germany and we applaud Red Hat's actions to help end their activities in the US -- and beyond. We applaud their efforts to restrict the rhetoric of the SCO group -- and the FUD they are trying to instill -- and will determine quickly what actions SuSE can take to support Red Hat in their efforts.'" Read on for a few more links.

Vladimir writes "What no one has really touched upon is that the SCO vs. IBM court date is in April 2005, which could mean that the resolution of this case could be somewhere in 2006-2007, by which time Linux or any other OS may be irrelevant. People please keep your wallets in your pocket. Also, this lawyer has a long analysis of SCO extortion attempts and debunks a lot of their FUD."

Besides which, Omega writes "VNUnet has a story on how the economic analysis firm The Butler Group predicts that even if SCO can demonstrate there is offending code in the Linux kernel, it could easily be replaced."

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  1. They always countersue by PoochieReds · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's standard business practice to countersue when someone sues your company. The merits of the case have very little to do with it.

    Nothing to see here, move along...

  2. Buying the SCO-licence in Germany not possible by OMG · · Score: 5, Informative

    I contacted SCO Germany and tried to get an offer for a desktop licence. On the phone a SCO employee said I should stop "babbling" (yes, she used that word). I should sent an email instead. Others have tried that weeks ago and got no reaction up to now. The company doing the press releases for SCO Germany informed me that they are not allowed to comment on the licence in any way, too.

    It looks like there is absolutly no chance to buy the SCO licence for Linux in Germany at the moment.

  3. what sun thinks by t123 · · Score: 5, Informative

    according to this eweek story, sun believes it SCO can screw off:

    In the early 1990's, Schwartz said, Sun chief executive Scott McNealy agreed to spend several million dollars to take a broad license with AT&T, essentially granting Sun legal rights equivalent to ownership of Unix code.

    "As a result of that decision in 1993, we can do whatever we want (to the code)," Schwartz said. "We can drive forward and indemnify our customers too," a basic responsibility of any intellectual property provider, he said.

  4. Re:Stay Tuned, Don't Change That Channel! by Skye16 · · Score: 3, Informative

    According to a letter to Szulik that was attached to the announcement, SCO "will prepare our legal response as required by your complaint." McBride continued by suggesting that his company's response "will likely include counterclaims for copyright infringement and conspiracy."

    kthxbye.

  5. Re:See the code by Sique · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because the original case is not about the code itself, but about IBM allegedly infringing on the licensing conditions for AIX. SCO states that with IBM releasing code to the Linux kernel which was written for AIX and thus covered by the Unix license, IBM infringed on the contract.

    SCO states that IBM had to protect not only the licensed source code but also the code IBM wrote to make a derivative work from the source code.

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  6. Is this a repeat of the Rambus wars... by SmackCrackandPot · · Score: 5, Informative

    Looking back at recent history, I found this list compiled from various technology news reports...

    January 2000 Rambus files patent infringement lawsuit against Hitachi
    June 2000 Rambus settles lawsuit against Hitachi
    August 2000 Rambus files patent infringement lawsuit against Infineon
    August 2000 Micron files patent infringement lawsuit against Rambus
    August 2000 Hyundai files patent infringement lawsuit against Rambus
    Sept. 2000 Rambus files patent infringement lawsuit against Micron and Hyundai (Hynix)
    May 2001 Rambus lawsuit against Infineon dismissed, fined US $3.5 million
    August 2001 Rambus faces class-action lawsuit for fraud

    1. Re:Is this a repeat of the Rambus wars... by the+lurking+man · · Score: 5, Informative
      Let's hope not, because you forgot an important part of the Rambus saga.

      January 2003 Rambus wins appeal; court throws out fraud claims, interprets patents favorably to Rambus, and remands for new trial.

  7. A few are taking adv. of SCO's inflated Stock by Stone316 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I was curious to see if any stock holders were cashing in on SCO's inflated stock price. Check out the following link which details the last month. Not alot of huge transactions, maybe their really think their cashcow vision will come true? Yahoo Insider Trades

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  8. Improper analogy by burgburgburg · · Score: 3, Informative

    As has been pointed out, this is a copyright issue, not one about theft/piracy which is clearly the case in your analogy.

  9. Here are some examples of SCO work in the kernel by str8-and-sober · · Score: 3, Informative

    sol:/usr/src/linux # egrep -ri '(@sco\.|@caldera)' * 2>/dev/null
    CREDITS:E: sp@caldera.de
    arch/i386/kernel/microcode.c: * 1.0 16 Feb 2000, Tigran Aivazian <tigran@sco.com>
    arch/i386/kernel/microcode.c: * 1.01 18 Feb 2000, Tigran Aivazian <tigran@sco.com>
    arch/i386/kernel/microcode.c: * 1.02 21 Feb 2000, Tigran Aivazian <tigran@sco.com>
    arch/i386/kernel/microcode.c: * 1.03 29 Feb 2000, Tigran Aivazian <tigran@sco.com>
    drivers/net/slip.c: * from Jim Freeman's <jfree@caldera.com>
    drivers/net/tlan.c: * Tigran Aivazian <tigran@sco.com>: TLan_PciProbe() now uses
    drivers/char/drm/drm_context.h: * 2001-11-16 Torsten Duwe <duwe@caldera.de>
    drivers/scsi/ips.c:/* 4.00.06a - Port to 2.4 (trivial) -- Christoph Hellwig <hch@caldera.de> */
    drivers/scsi/advansys.c: Erik Ratcliffe <erik@caldera.com> has done testing of the
    drivers/sound/esssolo1.c: * up. Marcus Meissner <mm@caldera.de>
    drivers/sound/esssolo1.c: * Marcus Meissner <mm@caldera.de>
    drivers/sound/maestro.c: * v0.15 - May 21 2001 - Marcus Meissner <mm@caldera.de>
    drivers/sound/rme96xx.c: Marcus Meissner <Marcus.Meissner@caldera.de>
    drivers/sound/nm256_ audio.c: * 19-04-2001 Marcus Meissner <mm@caldera.de>
    drivers/sound/sonicvibes.c: * Meissner <mm@caldera.de>
    fs/freevxfs/vxfs_olt.c:&nbs p; printk(KERN_NOTICE "vxfs: please notify hch@caldera.de\n");
    net/ipx/af_ipx.c: * Portions Copyright (c) 1995 Caldera, Inc. <greg@caldera.com>
    net/ipx/af_spx.c: * Jim Freeman <jfree@caldera.com>

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  10. Re:Solaris Is Going Away by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 3, Informative

    I doubt you realize how much engineering effort Solaris represents. It's internals are actually *thought out* fairly well. The kernel is much more robust in terms of high load and availability than the Linux one (try it, see for yourself).

    Dumping it would be 'bad' by any measure. The best thing that I'd personally like to see happen is them merging Solaris and Linux.

    Linux has a lot of quick & dirty hacks, it supports a ton of consumer hardware, etc., solaris is more of a stable-well-thought-out OS, that lacks some of that 'agility' that Linux has.

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