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AMD Buys Pre-VIA Cyrix Media-GX Division

An anonymous reader writes "A long time ago, in what feels like a different universe, Cyrix created the first sub-$1000 PC based on a 2 chip solution called the Media-GX. Soon after National Semiconductor bought Cyrix, keeping the Media-GX team and selling the 686MX team to VIA. In the meantime, the Media-GX team have created the a series of single chip PCs, and a totally new CPU, the GX2. Now National Semiconductor is selling the division to AMD, which should give it a higher profile and better fab technology again." Reader jlouderb reminds us of National Semiconductor's Device Girls promotion, "a lame take-off on the Spice Girls," and points to coverage at eWeek of the purchase.

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  1. Device Girls by saskwach · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ugh, can't anyone appeal to common sense instead of sex drive? Make way for bad hardware related puns.

  2. lame? hardly... by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They certainly looked better than the Spice Girls. I bet they sounded better, too, though who cares about that. :)

  3. Possible purpose by crow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Perhaps what AMD wants is not their CPU, but the stuff that they've integrated in with it to create a single-chip PC. In a year or so, we might see a single-chip system based on one of the AMD processors.

    1. Re:Possible purpose by swordboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Perhaps what AMD wants is not their CPU, but the stuff that they've integrated in with it to create a single-chip PC.

      Well... that is the only logical conclusion. ARM has taken the portable world because X86 compatibility isn't important there. It will be some time before AMD can afford to put an entire Athlon system on a chip but it will eventually happen. Now they just need to buy a graphics chip designer like AMD or nVidia.

      Can you imagine the bandwidth between CPU and video? A 2048-bit bus between video and CPU wouldn't be a problem if you put it all on the same chip, not to mention the reduction in latentcy with the memory interface.

      Maybe the nVidia/AMD relationship ala NForce is a sign of what is to come?

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    2. Re:Possible purpose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      the die size would be huge and the yield would be almost 0. the technology to fab that just doesn't exist yet

    3. Re:Possible purpose by Dielectric · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not close at all, but interestingly they go after the same applications. The Au1x00 chips are MIPS cored, so they're not even close architecturally.

      I really have no good idea why AMD bought these jokers. Maybe AMD was infringing on NS's IP, and the results was that AMD just buys that part of NS?

      Damn, it's hot under this tinfoil hat.

    4. Re:Possible purpose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Unfortunately, ZFMicro used National as their foundry and for some of their last-line development. So National got access to schematics and layout info for the chip, instead of just masks. National then proceeded to steal it and integrate the Geode proc they bought from Cyrix with some on-chip peripherals in the same way, and then put ZFMicro out of business by refusing to ship any more ZFx86s.

      Remember this next time somebody wants to outsource stuff to India/Phillipeans/etc.

  4. AMD Using Geode to Lower Opteron/Athlon64 Power by reporter · · Score: 5, Insightful
    AMD is buying the 80x86 division of National Semiconductor (NSM) in order to obtain the embedded 80x86 technology and employee talent for lowering the power consumption of Opteron and Athlon64. The AMD 80x86 processors have generally run hotter than Intel 80x86 processors. Since AMD is in a brutal competition with Intel for marketshare, AMD must quickly improve its competitive position.

    AMD will not use the 80x86 division of NSM to create a 80x86 embedded processor. 80x86 chips fare poorly in the embedded market, which is dominated by ARM.

  5. Competition for VIA EPIA? by Stonent1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This looks like it could directly compete with the EPIA Mini-ITX. I don't know what the fastest media gx core is, but it would be cool if AMD released a Mini-ITX board based around it. Especially if it could be done cheaper than the VIA board.

  6. Re:What AMD needs to buy is... by Hoser+McMoose · · Score: 2, Insightful

    AMD seems to be finally starting to take chipset design somewhat seriously, plus they finally got a decent third party chipset manufacturer a couple years ago when nVidia signed on. I don't think that they need to make motherboards themselves, but I do believe that they should contract one of the Taiwanese companies to make AMD-branded motherboards.

    As for AMD's naming scheme though, I rather like how they are doing things with the Opteron. It's VERY simple but also much more descriptive than using MHz/GHz to describe a chip. You have three numbers, first represents how many of these chips you can pack into a single system (1, 2 or 8), the second represents the core revision (currently only version '4', which I guess is a rather random number to start with), and the last represents relative performance within that core version (0, 2, 4 and now 6).

    Personally I find that much easier and less confusing than just MHz. Take Intel's Pentium 4 for example. There were 3 different versions of the 2.0GHz P4 and now 3 different versions of the 2.4GHz chip. The 3.06GHz P4 is faster than one version of the 3.0GHz P4, but slower than the other version of the 3.0GHz P4. To differentiate all these different versions Intel just sticks letters like 'A', 'B' etc. at the end of the clock speed in a fairly random manner. For the 2.0GHz vs. 2.0A chip, the 'A' referred to having more cache and lower power consumption. For the 2.4GHz vs. 2.4B vs. 2.4C chips it's all bus speed (400MHz vs. 533MHz vs. 800MHz). Of course, Intel REALLY out did themselves back with the old 600MHz PIII, where they had no less than 6 different versions of the chip! What's worse, a socket PIII 600MHz chip was NOT the same chip as a Slot 1 PIII 600MHz, but rather the same as a PIII 600E.

    Long story short, using MHz/GHz to name chips is VERY confusing in this day and age. Things like cache size, I/O bandwidth and memory bandwidth are of major importance, while clock speed plays only a limited role in many situations.