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AMD Buys Pre-VIA Cyrix Media-GX Division
An anonymous reader writes "A long time ago, in what feels like a different universe, Cyrix created the first sub-$1000 PC based on a 2 chip solution called the Media-GX. Soon after National Semiconductor bought Cyrix, keeping the Media-GX team and selling the 686MX team to VIA.
In the meantime, the Media-GX team have created the a series of single chip PCs, and a totally new CPU, the GX2. Now National Semiconductor is
selling the division to AMD, which should give it a higher profile and better fab technology again."
Reader jlouderb reminds us of National Semiconductor's Device Girls promotion, "a lame take-off on the Spice Girls," and points to coverage at eWeek of the purchase.
This story reminded me of an article from the Register about how some analysts think IBM will eventually buy AMD. Didn't IBM used to sell Cyrix chips or something?
They were the first true 2-chip(CPU+Northbridge and a Southbridge) Computers for failed Information Appliance market (IE Audrey,Virgin Webplayer, ETc). Very small, cheap, and power effecient. I have a Webplayer that I modded to run RH as a Mp3 player and Digital picture frame with WiFi and it only uses 25 watts including monitor!!
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I'd go online with them any day! Reeeeoow!
I bought a montherboard with a 166+ 686 CPU from Cyrix. It worked better and lasted longer than the Gateway pentium 166 boxes we had at work. Alas, my rommate spilled a pot of coffee on the bugger and it died with a POP, a SNAP and a SIZZLE. From what I learned, there were two versions of that chip. Version 1 overheated a lot, but if you kept it cool it was fine. Verion 2 didn't overheat, but flaked and flaked and flaked until you wanted to beat it with a bat. My sis wanted a box and I got her a $199 PC with a Cyrix MII 333 chip a few years later. Mistake. 'nuf said. End of my Cyrix experience.
You can already get single chip systems based on their IA chips if you're doing embedded development: Kontron's X-Board, which just came out. We're using a Kontron PC/104 board with a standalone Geode on it right now and it's the most rock solid board I've ever used. The X-board is going to make our next revision incredibly small, low power, and inexpensive.
Although, I have to wonder what this will do the ZFMicrosystems lawsuit against National. Basically, ZFMicro was started by the original founder of Ampro, which originated the popular PC/104 standard, and integrated a 586 processor core with a bunch of peripherals into the ZFx86, a neat little cheap (I have an MZ104 from Tri-m Systems that uses it. Squeezes a slackware distro into a 6.8MB file on a flash chip). Unfortunately, ZFMicro used National as their foundry and for some of their last-line development. So National got access to schematics and layout info for the chip, instead of just masks. National then proceeded to steal it and integrate the Geode proc they bought from Cyrix with some on-chip peripherals in the same way, and then put ZFMicro out of business by refusing to ship any more ZFx86s.
wow that is utter bullcrap.
ARM processors are very tiny nitche of the embedded market. Most embedded systems use 68HC Motorola processors and if they need more power X86 Based because of the flexibility of RTDOS and RTLinux.
Go ahead, fine me a PC-104 ARM based board. gee why does most of the embedded system tha mean a damn like industrial control/ flight systems and automation NOT use ARM??
because embedded = a whole helluva lot more than the crappy PDA toy market.
Does AMD's purchase of low-power technology have anything to do with this?
Everyone will start to cheer when you put on your sailin' shoes.
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But there's more! it's not just video on the CPU, it's the north AND south bridges! The CPU, GPU, memory controller, PCI controller, and who-knows-what-else are on this bad-boy! I've been wanting this sort of thing for a long time!
I understand that the price will be longer development cycles and raw performance, but there are a LOT of uses for machines based on this type of thinking. Imagine how inexpensive PCs based on this type of thing could get, and how little power they would require! If managers get their heads around the idea of centralized computing again (as they should in the office) we're going to see huge demand for inexpensive fast-enough graphical terminals.
"Sometimes, I think Trent just needs a cup of hot chocolate and a blankie." -Tori Amos on Nine Inch Nails
If you remember the interview with Chuck Moore (of Forth fame) a while back, he was promoting a chip kinda like this. 25 CPUs all on one chip (5x5), with a grid of 18-bit busses, 5 each way, connecting them all to each other horizontally and vertically. He hadn't built any, but based on his previous chips at much larger scales, he was estimating about 2400MHz maximum bus input latency; with 10 independant busses, that means an upper bound of 10*2400M*18=432,000Mbps internal.
:-), nor to listen for any of that "information". But the sheer magnitude of the number is a bit staggering. But anyhow, yes, on-chip busses are pretty fun.
Of course, that's all noise -- none of the chips would have time to do real work
Oh, latest rumor: he took the 25x page down because he'd found a buyer. Very little other info available.
-Billy