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IBM Countersues SCO, And More!
mr.crutch writes "Few details are available, but CNet is reporting that IBM has filed counterclaims against SCO. CNet also has an interview with Red Hat CEO Matthew Szulik..." Jizzbug writes "Thanks to the folks of K5, we can all obtain our rights to use the Linux kernel from SCO, and without paying up to SCO's extortion. If kernel.org kernels aren't safe, sco.com kernels certainly ought to be." LWN has a copy of SCO's Linux License for your perusal. Bruce Perens is speaking of the dangers of patent portfolios to open source software, notable because IBM's counterclaims include patent infringement. And finally, a company is selling SCO Check, a tool to de-SCOify your Linux system, if SCO ever presents any evidence whatsoever of infringing code in Linux. Update: 08/08 00:16 GMT by T : SCO's public response to IBM's counterclaim is short and to the point. Among other things, it says "If IBM were serious about addressing the real problems with Linux, it would offer full customer indemnification and move away from the GPL license." Given the other links in this story, perhaps SCO should go first on that count.
fp nizzle fo shizzle
This is version 0.65 of a troll HOWTO. As a draft, comments and criticism are always welcome, if not appreciated :) By version 0.7, sections on karma whoring,
conning the Slashdot users in to clicking your links, and how to beat other trolls to the punch. If you would like to work on
the ./ Troll HOWTO, please by all means modify it as you see if, please post
the new version of your howto as Unofficial until I can come and pick it and
merge the the two together. Make sure to make your version a minor release,
as I will be in charge of posting all new major releases.
Section 1 - Trolling techniques
There are techniques used by successful trolls to elicit the maximum amount of responses from unthinking /.ers. This section is dedicated to explaining
how to use these in the course of your trolls. Remember though, a great troll
can break any or all of these and still be successful..
* Timing
Because you're posting as an AC, your troll will generally be ignored in favor of posters using their accounts, and so getting in early is essential. A good guideline is to get into the first 20 posts, so that people reading the article will see the troll before it is swamped out. One way of increasing the speed with which you get your troll into play is to prepare them beforehand, and then quickly customize them for the current article. This is easier than it sounds since /. typically repeats stories with small variations and runs lots of similar
stories.
Note that this is why Jon Katz stories are pretty worthless as trolling material - by the time you've found the article and prepared a troll there's already 50+ posts on it, most of them flaming Jon Katz anyway :)
* Exposure
Once you've got your troll in, you need people to actually read it. You also want replies - /.ers are more likely to read your troll if it starts a large
thread. You also want to remember that some people have set their comment thresholds
to values higher than 0 - to get the attention of these you either want to get
your post moderated up (see Style, below) or get a reply which gets moderated
up to 4 or 5, in which case your troll becomes visible to all.
* Accounts
An alternative to the time-honored tradition of AC trolling is that of creating a troll account. This gives you the advantage of posting at 1 rather than 0, and slashbots are more likely to take you seriously, especially if you at least sound reasonable. If you do this, try to avoid posting stuff where it is obvious you're a troll under the account - post it anonymously instead - some slightly more canny readers actually check your user info before they reply. Not many though :)
The ultimate goal of the troll account is to secure the +1 bonus, which is currently received once you hit 26 points of Karma. To get there, employ the techniques of karma whoring that we see every day on /. and watch the karma
roll in. And of course once you get the +1 bonus, the world is your oyster in
terms of /. Posts made at a default of 2 hit even those people with the threshold
of 2, are more likely to get moderated up even further if they are at all coherent,
and people tend to lose their critical thinking abilities in the face of the
+1 bonus. Milk it for all it's worth.
* Layout
To get people reading it a troll needs to be easily readable. Make sure you break it down into easily digestible paragraphs, use HTML tags where appropriate (but always make sure you close them properly) and use whitespace appropriately.
* Size
Generally a troll shouldn't be too short, otherwise it'll get lost in the crowd. A workable minimum is a couple o
I noticed none of the K5 links work, did SCO get to them? This is pretty creepy.
A modbombing of such speed and severity could only have been carried out by an editor!
There's a reason it's the right wing. Bush 2004 [georgewbush.com]
Frightening part is, among right wing circles, this is considered a valid, nay, an intellectual argument. Idiots.
Today is the first day I really wished I had mod points to mod this piece of filth down. I did not find it amusing, no on-topic.
Go right-wing!! yahhhhh
You're joking right? Clinton? Adding to the country's debt? I don't think so. He had several balanced budgets during his two terms. Bush on the other hand, record setting deficit.
From that site your sig links to:
Mean-spirited comments like this are interspersed through most of her columns. The validity of the accusations against Clinton is not the point.
Translation? She's right, but she's... really, really mean!
Well, yeah. So?
Why I can't stand Bush.
Goes AWOL from military. Nobody cares, if my employer found out I lied about my military background, I would loose my job... he does it and becomes president. Business ties to the Bin Laden family...
From his mouth:
"My [tax cut] plan is realistic because it avoids meaningless 15-year projections."
"There ought to be limits to freedom"
"Will the highways on the Internet become more few?"
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier...just as long as I'm the dictator..."
"There's a huge trust. I see it all the time when people come up to me and say, 'I don't want you to let me down again.'"
"It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it."
Why I can't stand Bush.
Goes AWOL from military.
I don't see any mention of Mr. Clinton in you ill-informed rant.
I'm not a prophet or a stone-age man,
I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
True... but that doesn't mean she doesn't suck.
That was a troll post? I thought it was a reference to Monty Python, as lame and ineffective a reference as it was.
Did I say anthing about Clinton..?
;)
I also didn't include Reagan or Carter...
I just don't think Bush is a good representative for the Republican party. I know Clinton had a bad background when it comes to military service. It is just bothers me that someone like Bush is leading our country. I tend to have some conservative views, I just don't seem to agree with his (mis)representation of the party. That is it.
one Q.. am I ill-informed for not including Clinton, or for the quotes... I can provide sources for all of them if you like
One thing that I noticed is that your first link ("How to deal with USENET trolls") is messed up.
Now, the confusiong caused by calling the entire OS "Linux" has been perpetuated even further.
The GNU project laid out much of the groundwork for non-kernel core components of the GNU/Linux OS. The FSF laid out the legal framework upon which the Linux kernel was based, GNU was based, and the rest of the components of the OS were based.
However, the GNU project did not in any way lay out the technical framework upon which the Linux kernel is based. Linus created the initial Linux kernel from the ground up, and did not base it on any GNU software (though he may have used GNU software along-side it).
This is an interesting example of where -- not only does calling the entire OS "Linux" not acknowledge the credit of many others, but it also gives credit to GNU for the Linux kernel, which is simply factually incorrect.
Intellectual authorship is important.
social sciences can never use experience to verify their statemen
Context is everything, people.
:
Here is the full quote, as reported by CNN
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that there were going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
See, Bush is a good-natured guy and likes to joke around by all acounts. Clearly, he was kidding when he said he'll disagree with some members of his cabinet. Context, once again, is everything. Congratulations for falling prety to radical left-wing idiots frothing at the mouth thinking that Bush wants to be dictator and this is the PROOF!
Because Clinton never made the commitment to serve. Bush did and then went AWOL.
OK, point made. Clinton just dodged it from the get-go.
I'm not a prophet or a stone-age man,
I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
you're messed up
dammit! I want flame war!
;)
sorry, having my worst day in probably 5 years today.
(breakup w/girl of 2 years, housemate disapears for a week and doesn't pay his share of rent, so we are getting evicted... work piled up to my ears.. 8 hours sleep since monday, can't type straight, spent my last $900 on tuition...)
but, hey at least I have enough ramen for a couple weeks and a tent if I need to camp it until I find a new place
Because he never mentioned Clinton at all.
His post wasn't about Clinton, it was about Bush.
What Clinton may or may not have done does not excuse Bush's actions in the least.
Jackass.