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Hams Complain about Powerline Broadband

dwm writes "Think broadband over power lines (BPL) would be wonderful? There might be some collateral damage. The American Radio Relay League (your friendly neighborhood ham radio operators) have documented dramatic HF radio interference in areas where BPL is being tested (Check out the video of actual interference)."

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  2. You insensitive clod! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I'm Jewish!

  3. Well... by mindsuck · · Score: 0, Troll

    They should just ditch those radios and move on to VoIP. ;)

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  4. Right ON! by zapod4 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Way to go hams!! Lets sacrifice modern and accessable communication in favor of bouncing radio waves off the atmosphere!

  5. good riddens by JVert · · Score: 0, Troll

    ever since this "internet" thing came along I havn't found a use for using my license. Lets make an agreement that the powerline internet gets shut down on field day, cause thats kinda fun.

    *eyes widen*...But there hasn't been any link beetween powerline internet and 802.11 performance has there?

  6. pfft by gritz · · Score: -1, Troll

    are ham radio people not usually short and fat? i say we kick their asses.

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  8. *gasp* by hctimo787 · · Score: 0, Troll

    boofreakinghoo

    this is worse than coal train companies complaining about the DOT paving roads over railroad tracks.

  9. wait... by riotstarter · · Score: 0, Troll

    "Hams Complain about Powerline Broadband"
    All ten of them?

  10. Re:who cares? by Nathan+Ramella · · Score: 0, Troll
    Well, case in point.. The HAMs usually present themselves as being the last line of defense or communication, or something, I forget -- after a catastrophic event.

    Hey, that's fine. If something catastrophic occures and the phone lines (and power!) go out, you're back at the right hand of community service. All the girls who ran away to sidle up on the Broadband through Power hunks will realize the error in their ways and come slinking back in shame.

    Will this be like the movie where the stubborn general doesn't listen to the sensitive and intelligent scientist and tries to use force to solve the problem rather than playing a game of tic-tac-toe or having a skiing competition?

    Will the HAMs somehow arrange for the FCC or the PUC to end up with a custard pie in the collective faces to underscore how wrong they are, after they win the day?

    Just remember. Morse-Code over HAM radio won us the Independence Day Alien showdown. Without HAM we never could have coordinated! And Morse code! Don't forget Morse code!

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  12. Re:Ham radio users by Directrix1 · · Score: 0, Troll

    No, but people do transmit data over it already. At least I hope there isn't any instances of tcp/ip over ham. Seeing as how radio is an unroutable beast. Now you can assign IPs to the endpoints and that would be good.

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  13. Elitist Bastards! by Greyfox · · Score: -1, Troll
    I hate the hams. They're all with their frequencies and their licenses and "Oh look! I learned morse code!" Well aren't you special? Maybe you should come up out of your mom's basement and... oh... wait...

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  14. GNAA official statement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I would like to emphasize that GNAA does not oppose the spread of powerline broadband. Please wait for the official press release.

    1. Re:GNAA official statement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

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  15. Re:Harmful interference by stephanruby · · Score: 1, Troll

    The radio spectrum is an infinite spectrum and it really does bother me that some people don't understand that. Personally, I think the spectrum should be reallocated and the regulations should be rewritten from scratch every ten years.

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  17. Where's the problem?? by r00zky · · Score: 1, Troll

    From posted comments we can infer:

    a) Ham is only useful in:
    - disasters
    - unpopulated areas w/o internet connectivity or cellphone coverage or satellite communication coverage

    b) The rest of uses of ham radio falls under the description of hobby.

    - When a disaster happens the first to go out is power, so no problem with interferences here.
    - The unpopulated areas which comply requisites of such isolation are unlikely to have power coverage!

    So, no problem! Benefits of broadband over power lines overweight by some orders of magnitude the ham radio usefulness.

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  18. Re:Ham radio users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    If it's more than a hobby, I can't help but think that you're doing the general public a disservice by requiring search and rescue team members to have an amateur radio license in order to communicate effectively.

    It's not -that- hard, as a non-profit or even a loose-knit group, to get a commercial-band frequency allocation from the FCC, share a frequency with someone else, and/or borrow repeater space.

    Then, people wouldn't need licenses. They could just volunteer, be assigned a radio, and do whatever needs done.

    Besides, the radios are simpler. You can tell someone "Only use channel 1; push this button to talk" and they'll generally just get it. Compare this with a typically button-laden, accident prone HAM radio, and I think it's obvious which one Joe Search Bumpkin would be more comfortable using.

    The stench of self-important bullshit surrounding your post, KD5SMV, reminds me of a brief conversation I had with with a member of a local "Emergency CB Relay" league.

    You know the type. You'll be meeting with a group of them sometime within the next 30 days in a wooden shack with a large tower just outside. That you'll be talking about antenna farms and radio mods while they'll be discussing hot linears does not detract from the insipid inanity mutual to both hobbies.

  19. Re:Ham radio users by deck · · Score: -1, Troll

    Ditch your radios dork and send the license back to Washington DC.