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The "Techie" Vote?

Ironica writes "This Los Angeles Times article discusses a compelling trend: techies are making their collective voice heard in politics. Quote from the article: "After years as political agnostics, the programmers and engineers who orchestrated the technological revolution of the 1990s are trying to reboot government...They have money, earned during the boom. They have time, found since the bust. And they are using their technological savvy to recruit even casual Internet users to their causes." Perhaps instead of "boxers or briefs," our next presidential candidate will have to answer "POP3 or IMAP?""

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  1. Re:Can anyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Techies, Politics Now Click

    The 'geeks' who once shunned activism amid the digital revolution are using their money and savvy to influence public policy.

    By Joseph Menn ~ Times Staff Writer

    August 11, 2003

    The first call came before 9 a.m.

    For the next eight hours, they kept coming: call after call at the rate of 20 per second, crippling the telephone systems of several U.S. senators.

    The geeks were speaking -- in opposition to the imminent war in Iraq.

    After years as political agnostics, the programmers and engineers who orchestrated the technological revolution of the 1990s are trying to reboot government. Top technology executives such as Bill Gates found their public voice years ago. Now, the tens of thousands of technology workers who toiled in cubicles writing software and creating gadgets are making their influence felt.

    They have money, earned during the boom. They have time, found since the bust. And they are using their technological savvy to recruit even casual Internet users to their causes.

    They want to make sure civil liberties aren't trampled in the push for greater security. They want privacy respected. And they want the media and the political conversation in general to be freed from the dominance of a small number of powerful groups and corporations. Otherwise, they are hard to place on the political spectrum.

    One of the leaders of this loose-knit movement is Wes Boyd, a 42-year-old computer programmer who works out of a book-lined home office in a leafy section of Berkeley.

    He made his money selling computer games and screen savers -- those flying toasters that became an early icon of high-tech chic. Then, disgusted by what he saw as the political grandstanding surrounding the impeachment of President Clinton in 1998, Boyd posted a Web site to vent.

    MoveOn.org fielded 500 hits its first day, 7,000 the second. Within a few months, more than 250,000 visitors had signed an electronic petition calling for Congress to censure Clinton and "move on." Those early visitors formed the core of a group that now claims more than 1.3 million U.S. followers.

    MoveOn members pay no dues but agree to receive e-mail notices of new positions and calls for action. Many pass on the information they get, becoming volunteer recruiters. MoveOn takes stands on a variety of issues, but describes itself primarily as a catalyst for grass-roots action -- on whatever its members think is important.

    The group helped persuade more than 100,000 people to join an antiwar march in San Francisco in February, the largest such demonstration in the U.S.

    It generated 150,000 electronic complaints to the Federal Communications Commission about its plan to let big media companies get even bigger, a policy change now under assault in Congress. And hundreds of thousands of MoveOn supporters took part in the February phone blitz of U.S. senators over their support of the Iraq war.

    "You wish these things would be taken care of by other people," said Boyd, who founded MoveOn with his wife, Silicon Valley entrepreneur Joan Blades, after spending most of his life on the political sidelines. "But it turns out that if we don't play, if we don't work to make a difference, no one's going to do it. We just discovered that we couldn't look away anymore."

    The organization raised $3.5 million to give to candidates who ran for federal office last year. In April, it said it was dedicating itself to unseating President Bush in 2004, though it has not come out in support of a candidate to replace him.

    "We've been trying to engage people in other things, and almost always the answer comes back, 'Why bother? It's not going to matter if we don't get rid of Bush,' " Boyd said.

    Dislodging a well-funded president might be beyond its reach. But some analysts see MoveOn and similar groups as a potent political force.

    "I don't know of any group that has 1.3 million members who are as motivated to act when asked to,

  2. "Boxers or briefs" by hype7 · · Score: 3, Informative
    Perhaps instead of "boxers or briefs," our next presidential candidate will have to answer "POP3 or IMAP?"


    This reminds me of a question that a kid popped Al Gore in the last election - Mac or PC. Gore dodged the question. Kinda funny seeing he's now elected to Apple's board :)

    Anyway, as for a techie vote, ha! Trying to get techs to agree on anything is always a challenge. How many flavours of Linux are there? And talking of flavour, how do we spell it again?

    -- james
    1. Re:"Boxers or briefs" by frankie · · Score: 2, Informative
      Mac or PC. Gore dodged the question

      Not exactly; he was trying to be accurate. He really likes Macs, and is a personal friend of Steve Jobs. However, as vice-president he had to interface with a lot of Windows-only government systems, so he used a PC.

      Now that he's out of office, he's got a Mac again. Probably has some Wintels too.
  3. California Techies... by buford_tannen · · Score: 3, Informative

    Your state at least one candidate I really like.

    Georgina Russell, who is a software consultant, is running for governor in the recall race. I learned this thanks to this BBC article.

    A quick google search found her campaign site here, along with a few Linux mailing list posts.

    She appears to be one l33t Linux chick. She has even compiled test kernels before... Now I am all hot and bothered ;)

    Even though "Ahhhhnold" supposedly has this election already wrapped up, I can appreciate her efforts!

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    Buford "Mad Dog" Tannen
  4. Re:This reminds me... by GeorgeH · · Score: 4, Informative

    That "internet millionaire" is John Gilmore, co-founder of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which has been protecting techie rights from the get-go. If you're at all concerned about the stuff you mentioned (intellectual property issues, privacy...) you should consider sending them some money.

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  5. Corporate Tech Money got there first by randall_burns · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you check out www.opensecrets.org, you'll see the big increase in donations from computer companies happened in the mid-late 90's(from something like $4 Million/year to $38/million per year in 2-4 years). It is arguable that much of the increased interest in politics on the part of technical people is because when tech managment used their newfound political muscle in ways that weren't really to the advantage others participating in the industry(i.e. buying the H-1b Visa legislation).

  6. I think you guys are a little too late... by Phantasmo · · Score: 2, Informative

    The US has only two parties, and they both agree with each other on every issue:

    Republican: We need to reduce gun control.
    Democrat: Great idea! Let's increase millitary funding, too!
    Republican: I love the way you leftists think. We'll take another couple of billion out of education and knock off early for a beer.

    Anyone who wants to be politically active should immigrate to Canada. Here are some of the parties that you can choose from:

    Canadian Alliance: extreme right wing
    Progressive Conservatives: right wing
    Liberal: centrists
    New Democrats: left wing
    Green: extreme left wing

    All parties (with the exception of the Progressive Conservatives) support proportional representation, and the current federal government is trying to make it illegal for businesses and unions to fund political parties.

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  7. Re:Gore in fact said he invented it by gid-goo · · Score: 3, Informative
    Can we please see the quote? Oh yeah, you don't have it. But I do!
    During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system. - Al Gore
    While Al's claims show that he doesn't really understand the roots of the internet, they aren't inaccurate, just political grand standing. Branding Al as a liar was a smart political move by Karl Rove and the SCLM but it wasn't accurate. Even Vint Cerf (who did create the Internet) doesn't think Al was lying.
    As Senator, VP Gore was highly supportive of the research community's efforts to explore new networking capabilities and to extend access to supercomputers by way of NSFNET and its successors, the High Performance Computing and Communication program (which included the National Research and Education Network initiative), and as Vice President, he has been very responsive to recommendations made, for example, by the President's Information Technology Advisory Committee that endorsed additional research funding for next generation fundamental research in software and related topics. If you look at the last 30-35 years of network development, you'll find many people who have made major contributions without which the Internet would not be the vibrant, growing and exciting thing it is today. - Vint Cerf
  8. Re:Makes me feel important by lone_marauder · · Score: 2, Informative

    Or you can sit here and feel sorry for yourself because the people who have bothered aren't speaking for you.

    I believe you misunderstand me. First of all, there are groups that are speaking for me and whom I support. An objective article on the topic would have led with a discussion of the EFF rather than mentioning it as a tagline to the MoveOn.org human interest piece. MoveOn.org is significantly more obscure among techno-activists than is the EFF, and I believe this reversal of importance is an example of media bias driven by the political message of the two groups and how well they line up with the agenda of the LA Times.

    I do not decry the value of the message of MoveOn.org, I simply dispute the relative significance. As such, I feel no loss of belonging or voice in not belonging to a group with its scope and influence.

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