Slashdot Mirror

← Back to Stories (view on slashdot.org)

Global Warming To Leave North Pole Ice-Free

Posted by simoniker on from the penguins-mildly-irritated dept.

cwolfsheep writes "Tonight, Yahoo & AFP news are reporting on a study, further backing up a previous report, that suggests the North Pole will be ice-free in the summer by the next century. Oddly enough, they say the melting will not add to the sea-level of the ocean (since the ice is already in the ocean) and that the extra water will help absorb more greenhouse gases. Maybe we need to start using more aerosols."

3 of 664 comments (clear)

  1. Don't Release More co2, Harvard Says It's Evil by Pavan_Gupta · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That's a good point, and with that point taken into account, here's another interesting twist on the story that's come out...

    They're saying that the ocean would thus absorb more co2, but this won't possibly make an impact if the surfaces of the ocean aren't greater.

    In fact, Harvard Magazine says, "The ocean absorbs CO2 from the atmosphere in an attempt to reach equilibrium by direct air-to-sea exchange. This process takes place at an extremely low rate, measured in hundreds to thousands of years. However, once dissolved in the ocean, a carbon atom will stay there, on average, more than 500 years, estimates Michael McElroy, Butler professor of environmental science" which seems to indicate that though we might be able to absorb a bit more co2, it won't make a difference.

    The time constraints are very large, but moreover, the amount of co2 that contacts the ocean won't be high enough for somethign dramatic to happen before we destroy the precious things we already have.

    Thus, I'd like to think that we should still be very careful about how we just arbitrarly throw co2 into the air.

  2. Gulf stream stopping by alistair · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You explain the Archimedes Principle very well, but the threat to the Gulf Stream, which is one of the most serious possible effects of global warming, has little to do with sea temperature reduction in Northern waters. It is a general trend to increasing quantities of fresh water of any temperature being produced as run off in Europe which could stop this salt pump / conveyor belt effect. This has happened at least twice before with the result of major temperature drops in Europe.

    There is an excellent summary here. One interesting quote "[the gulf stream] carries over 3 trillion KW of heat to Europe - roughly 100 times the world's consumption of energy"

  3. still in an ice age chaps by cassidyc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well melting ice caps are all well and good, but I've yet to see real evidence that it is related to "global warming" in the sense that the warming is caused by pollution, and not say, the fact that we are still emerging from an ice age??

    Historically (geologically speaking) we are not in an ice age when there is, essentially, no ice!

    There are many reason purported to the rise in global temperatures, from greenhouse gasses, to sunspot activity to to earths position relative to the sun (Milankovitch cyclical variations) etc.

    Also with the removeal of bulk of the ice glaciers, much of the land that was under the weight of the ice is actually rising.

    So I've yet to be convinced that we are in any real trouble that we have brought upon ourselves.

    CJC