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Iron-eating Bug Found to Thrive in 121C Heat

shobadobs writes "A story in the Independent reports that a microorganism appropriately referred to as 'Strain 121' has been found capable of thriving, with its colony size doubling, at a heat of 121 degrees Celsius, eight degrees more than the previously recorded maximum temperature that an organism can survive. This deep-sea volcanic vent creature was found on the bottom of the Pacific Ocean, and it feeds off of iron." Luckily it's only a microorganism. At first glance I thought scientists might have discovered a real-life rust monster.

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  1. Welcome by Phroggy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our new iron-eating overlords.

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    1. Re:Welcome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      LOL, I love that quote.

      Seriously though, the organism doesn't just chew through iron like a termite through wood. It only feeds off microscopic (smaller than itself) pieces of iron, such as wandering particles/shavings. Even if it were able to eat through an iron surface, its' small size would prevent it from doing much immediate damage.

    2. Re:Welcome by aug24 · · Score: 5, Funny
      Could you make yourself useful and round up humans to toil in their underground.... errr... iron mines...? Hey! That joke finally works!

      J.

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    3. Re:Welcome by aug24 · · Score: 5, Informative
      By the magic of Google, I think it's Brockman of The Simpsons:

      "Ladies and gentlemen, uh, we've just lost the picture, but what we've seen speaks for itself. The Corvair spacecraft has apparently been taken over- 'conquered' if you will- by a master race of giant space ants. It's difficult to tell from this vantage point whether they will consume the captive Earthman or merely enslave them. One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the ants will soon be here. And I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords. I'd like to remind them as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves." (Deep Space Homer)

      No idea about IN SOVIET RUSSIA though mate.

      J.

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    4. Re:Welcome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      In Soviet Russia jokes originated from a coldwar era soviet comidian, Yakov Smirnov. This pagehas a more detailed description, as well as some of the original quotes.

    5. Re:Welcome by skurk · · Score: 4, Informative
      Regarding the "IN SOVIET RUSSIA" jokes, check out this article at everything2.com.

      Apparently, a russian comedian named Yakov Smirnoff made a lot of jokes where he took, for example, a sentence and switched the subject and object around, removed a few words, and prepended "In Soviet Russia".

      Like the example from the everything2.com article above:
      • The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
      becomes
      • In Soviet Russia, lazy dog jumps over quick brown fox!

      Just FYI. :-)
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    6. Re:Welcome by anukit · · Score: 4, Informative

      I was shocked when I opened /. this morning to find that a news story I posted on the UMass News Office web site had made it here. I work for web development here on the UMass Amherst campus, and it's great that there's finally some research that's getting press. If anyone's interested, the original news release out of umass can be found here: http://www.umass.edu/newsoffice/archive/2003/08140 3microbe.html

    7. Re:Welcome by JimPooley · · Score: 4, Funny

      I, for one, am getting fucking sick and tired of that mindless misuse of a Kent Brockman quote...

      Mods: Let's have a new rating of "-10: Tired old joke" if you please!!!

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    8. Re:Welcome by Cylix · · Score: 5, Funny

      I, for one, welcome our new moderator overlords!

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  2. Luckily by sploxx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > Luckily it's only a microorganism.
    Hmm, aren't microorganisms eating iron and surviving in ovens are harder to extinct than some cm long creatures with hands and feet?

    1. Re:Luckily by Dyolf+Knip · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I imagine that the chemical reactions that allow this thing to subsist on iron don't work too well at lower temperatures anyway. Otherwise we'd have seen that particular niche filled here on the surface a _long_ time ago.

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  3. Depth vs. Temperature? by Fesh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I would guess that the only place these bugs could exist would be where the pressure is high enough to keep water liquid at a temperature that is 20 degrees C above boiling (at sea level)... Is the temperature a prerequisite for their metabolic processes?

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    1. Re:Depth vs. Temperature? by Ubi_NL · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Almost certainly. Metabolic processes (enzymes) have a narrow active temperature range. My guess is anything below 80 degC will slow them down so much that they won't multiply anymore. They probably won't die either, just slow down

      joris

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    2. Re:Depth vs. Temperature? by ravenousbugblatter · · Score: 4, Informative

      I read the actual article in Science Magazine and it says they don't divide below ~80 degrees C.

  4. What about hot bugs? by tiled_rainbows · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I read about this in the paper on the way to work. And the article ended, yet again, saying "this is encouraging for people who still hope to find life on Mars". I understand that extremophile microbes demonstrate that our conception of a life-supporting environment has heretofore been a little narrow, but recent discoveries keep turning up organisms that live in hot, high-pressure envirtonments, kind of the exact opposite of the conditions on Mars. So how does this help the Martian life lobby? Given these recent findings, wouldn't we be better off looking for monocellular life somewhere like Venus, say?

    1. Re:What about hot bugs? by juhaz · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There are plenty of things that survice on temperatures below zero degrees celsius, even some bigger ones (like few fish). Nothing that is this far from the average, but then again conditions where you could find that kind of organisms on Earth are very rare, probably even more so than these deep-sea thermal vent critters.

      And if they can survive in one extreme, it gives a reason to believe other is also possible. Though in reality temperature of Mars is closer to 121C than conditions on Venus - average Martian temperature is -63C, difference of ~200, average on Venus is 457C, difference of over three hundred degree celsius. Surface temperature of Venus is hotter than Mercury!

      And even if there would be life on Venus, how the heck do you plan on finding it there? Ever present almost total cloud cover will make finding a landing place nigh impossible, and even if that could somehow be achieved no hardware of ours would survive the winds, somewhat corrosive atmosphere and infernal temperatures. In short, you can describe the place rather accurately with one word: Hell.

  5. Fear my Aluminium Suit. by Channard · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hah! How those fools laughed when I made my aluminium hat and bacofoil suit to block out the CIA's space-rays. Yet I alone will be safe from the iron eating scourge while those naysayers struggle to hold their trousers up as their belts are eaten away by the iron-devouring scourge.

  6. Only possible in the deep sea by asciimonster · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Since this is, I presume, a water-based organism, it can only survive such high temperatures deep down in the ocean. At sealevel, the water inside the organism will boil and make the thing explode. Also I wonder how it can keep it's aminoacids and DNA intact. At 120 degrees C there is enough energy to break the Hydrogen bonds which give the proteines and DNA it's stability...

    Could somebody give me some indications on the pressures sown there?

    1. Re:Only possible in the deep sea by cruachan · · Score: 4, Informative

      Proteins can be stabilised by increasing the number of S-S cross links from pairs of cysteines. Also the immediate intracellular environment matters and the precise nature of the proteins themselves - some of which can be amazingly stable.

      Still, I agree with the sentiment. I grew some hot spring bacteria myself for protein studies back in the early 80's and even though these *only* grew at 80 degrees C I remember looking at the incubator (i.e. adapter oven) and wondering how the little buggers ever managed to do that.

  7. Too bad Futurama has been canceled. by Rolo+Tomasi · · Score: 4, Funny

    This would be really great material for a new episode. Of course it would have to include the line "Bite my shiny iron-eating-bug-infested metal ass!". :o)

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  8. How sex by vevva · · Score: 5, Funny

    Colonies doubling in size at 121C.

    Now that's what I call hot sex.

  9. Re:This is not the first one. by craenor · · Score: 4, Informative

    That would be 121 Celsius there Mensa...as opposed to the 130 fahrenheit that your runner bug survives at, which is only 54.4C

  10. Iron Eating Bacteria by BigBadBus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hi, Iron eating bugs/bacteria aren't exactly new. They can be found eating away the wreck of the Titanic for instance (where 20% of the ship's steel has been consumed)

  11. Still fighting the Terminators by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Iron-eating bug found to thrive in 121C heat
    By Steve Connor Science Editor"


    I see that the son of Sarah is still researching ways to stop those pesky Terminators.

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  12. How High? by LordLucless · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If this little blighter is thriving at 121C, how high can it actually survive. The article mentions that temperatures in this guy's home top out at about 400C. How much heat can these guys actually take before cooking?

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    1. Re:How High? by Pharmboy · · Score: 4, Funny

      If this little blighter is thriving at 121C, how high can it actually survive. The article mentions that temperatures in this guy's home top out at about 400C. How much heat can these guys actually take before cooking?

      And once you have cooked these little iron eating bugs, what kind of wine do you serve with them? Red or white?

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  13. Of course.... by CowsAnonymous · · Score: 5, Interesting
    There is an animal that can probably live past all these creatures in extreme conditions, and that's the Waterbear

    From this article... The waterbear can revert to an "instant coffee"-dry state which resists storage in liquid nitrogen, contact with mineral acids, organic solvents, radioactive radiation and boiling water. After this kind of brute "scientific" scrutiny the miraculous creature is still able to return to normal life--it needs only a small droplet of water!

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  14. Don't Worry About Them... by tds67 · · Score: 4, Funny
    ...worry about the predators that feed on them.

  15. Original newsrelease and mpegs at NSF by loonix_gangsta · · Score: 5, Informative

    The original news release, with mpeg videos, is available from the National Science Foundation website. Enjoy.

  16. Yakov's greatest joke by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yakov's greatest joke (or was it only great joke) was a take-off on the "American Express: Don't home without it" slogan that was used during the 80s:

    "Soviet Express: Don't leave home."

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  17. Immediate Scientific / Technological Impact: PCR by tm2b · · Score: 5, Informative

    The discovery of new extremophiles is very important to biotech.

    A discussion of the various discoveries from extremophiles is here. I'm going to focus on one process, made possible by genes from hyperthermophiles from deep ocean vents. One process, PCR (Polymer Chain Reaction), the technology that allows us to create large batches of identical DNA, depends upon polymerase taken from these organisms.

    The reason is this: in order to for PCR to work, a solution of polymerase and the desired DNA sequence is heated so that the DNA will quickly uncoil, allowing the polymerase to go to work - copying each strand of DNA present, doubling the amount of DNA. The solution is cooled, and then the process repeats, doubling the amount of DNA each time. Unfortunately, "normal" polymerase quickly breaks down at the best temperatures for this process.

    Extremophile polymerase changes all of this, since it's perfectly happy to operate at these high temperatures.

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  18. Not A Bug by Biomechanoid · · Score: 5, Funny

    Iron-eating Bug Found to Thrive in 121C Heat

    That's not a bug, that's a feature

  19. Re:Aren't most diseases microorganisms? by void+warranty() · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think the actual infection would be your smallest problem when swimming in 120 degrees water at several hundred atm pressure.

  20. Re:What comes out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ferrous Calciferous Lithium or (FeCaL(i)) Matter is what is produced.

  21. Lucky? by RealSalmon · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Luckily it's only a microorganism.

    Whew! It's only a microorganism . . . they're only responsible for more deaths than everything else on the planet combined.

    Remember . . . it's usually the little stuff that gets you.

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  22. Re:Tota! by Theaetetus · · Score: 4, Funny
    They put Strain 121 in a hot oven to find that it enjoyed the experience - colonies continued to double in size at 121C.

    Citing a need to find out what other organisms 'enjoy hot ovens', researchers will be continuing their work, this time with kittens.

    ;)

    -T

  23. Heat-Resistant Prions by handy_vandal · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just wait till someone finds a living creature that can withstand several hundred degrees ..... it'd have a real chance of surviving a fire ..... now that would be scary.

    Prions -- the deformed proteins responsible for Mad Cow, CJD, and related spongiform encephalopathies -- can survive autoclaving (steam at high pressure).

    Autoclaved surgical instruments (e.g. eye-surgery scalpels) have been found to transmit CJD between patients. This means that the tiniest trace of protein on a knife blade isn't denatured.

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  24. It was really only one joke by donscarletti · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I believe there was only one joke actually by Yakov Smirnoff, that was:

    In America you can always find a party, in Soviet Russia party can always find you

    an extremely witty joke by almost everyone's standards, making a great pun with the word "party" to create truly a beautiful and lasting joke.

    The classic joke was later reused in the cartoon Family Guy as the Yakoff Smirnoff setting of the autodrive system. The voice made comments like "you are coming to a fork in road, in soviet russia, road fork you!" and "in soviet russia, car drive you" to succesfully create riotous amusement by the shear lameness of the repitition.

    Unfortunantly lameness and repititon are also the chosen methods of expression on another media: the internet. This continuation of the running joke has made the memory of that great joke lost in a sea of "in soviet russia, opteron makes beowolf cluster out of you!" travesties.

    But it seems in this corrupt world, anything innocent and beautiful will eventally be raped by those who have nothing to do but distroy purity.

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  25. Now that's planning! Forethought! by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 4, Funny
    It will be the only organism left in the universe, trillions of years from now, when all the atoms are either fused or decayed to iron.

    Or maybe this happened once before, and the current universe is the product of Strain 121 excrement.

    Man, that's a really weird thought. Must be Friday.

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