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Louisiana Tries Anti-Spam Law

chompyZ writes "The legislative battle against SPAMMING heats-up as a new law became effective yesterday in Louisiana. According to KPLC, the new law requires senders of sexually explicit e-mail to include a note in the subject line, "adv-adult," to let unsuspecting internet users know ahead of time. The Olympian reports that Louisiana officials actually think this will be effective... leaves you wondering if "officials" have any clue how SPAMMERS operate..."

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  1. At least it is a try... by eaddict · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Though the paragraph is somewhat pessimistic the concept is a good one. Why not try? If it works, great, if not then tweak it till it does. I hope more states try something.

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  2. Of course spammers won't comply.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...but they will be breaking a law in a clear cut manner, and that will be enough to start prosecuting. Jail time is the greatest way to punish someone, you effectively rob them of freedom, which you only have a finite amount of.

  3. yeah by dtfinch · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "adv-adult: Fill your prescriptions from Canada, save up to 80% !"

    That would be really helpful if I not only didn't have a spam filter, but took the time to read every spam that didn't have a pornographic title.

    Of course, this only applies to louisianans who send non-anonymous pornographic spam to other louisianans.

  4. How do they plan on enforcing this stupid law(s)? by Dukeofshadows · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Most spammers operate out of other countries these days, as do telemarketers. If you ask one the next time one is on the phone, they usually call from another time zone or Canada (if the target is American). Most spammers operate from servers in Canada or small Pacific Rim countries that would prove immune from this law anyway. Note also that most of these sexually explicit e-mails are easily recognized by anyone literate as they tend to accumulate several consonants at the end of the e-mail title that form babble instead of coherent words. I find this an example of people saber-rattling in preparation for re-election campaigns, especially given that several other meaningless "vote-for-me" laws were modified or enacted at the same time. These include:

    -no more execution of the mentally retarded (already mandated by the Supreme Court)

    -allows telemarketers to call you if you "are referred to them by someone you know"

    -increase penalties against drunk drivers who kill or seriously injure people while driving with over a 0.2 blood alcohol level (as if attempted/ murder is not serious enough to get life in prison anyway)

    -no credit card company can give out anything of value to students unless they also get a brochure

    Some of the new laws make sense, but again there are enough of weird and nonsensical laws that I wonder if such would make it to the legislative table, much less get passed, if not for the election coming up in about a year's time. Until then I await the first case of a spammer getting tried under this law if he/she/it/they are operating from another state or country.

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  5. Good spam defence... no way to be correct by ClarkEvans · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As each state and locality implement their own variant, some requiring "ADV:" in the subject line, some requiring "ADULT:" and this one requiring "adv-adult", all a spammer will have to do is claim that he can't possibly satisfy all of the constraints. Why can't we have a header which marks spam as spam, such as "Solicited: no"? Or just require that all spam use "Precedence: bulk"?

    Not that any of this will be effective... but if they have to legislate something...

    1. Re:Good spam defence... no way to be correct by schon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As each state and locality implement their own variant, some requiring "ADV:" in the subject line, some requiring "ADULT:" and this one requiring "adv-adult", all a spammer will have to do is claim that he can't possibly satisfy all of the constraints.

      Not true.

      Nobody is saying that "you must satisfy all constraints for all users" - they're saying that "for state X, you must use contstraint X, and for state Y, you must use constraint Y, etc.", which is not impossible at all.

      The spammer just has to be careful that he doesn't send a spam with the wrong header to the wrong state... otherwise he can be prosecuted (or sued, depending on the nature of the law he violated.)

      Now, the spammer might just say "I don't know which state they're in" - to which a judge would reply "then you shouldn't have sent them your spam."

      Not that any of this will be effective.

      I disagree - as more of these laws become enacted and used, spammers will start to think twice, and then go back to whatever scams they did to make money before they discovered the internet.

      How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time. These laws are our first bite.

  6. This sounds about right by supersoftdrink · · Score: 3, Interesting

    coming from the state that brings you drive-through daquiri huts. There's a law in Louisiana that says you can't have an open container of liquor in your car. Somehow having a styrofoam cup with a lid and a straw is still a closed container. It's things like this that made me move away from that God-forsaken state. :)

  7. how i blocked USA spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting


    as 99.9% of spam i recieve is usa based and iam not a USA resident or have any buisness there i managed to block it all simply by filtering the $ sign, works great and hasnt created a false positive in 2years of using this method :-)

  8. I AM a Louisiana resident by bersl2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This law will get precisely zero (0) significant coverage in-state. The legislature probably passed it to see if they could get some easy extra money for the budget. If push came to shove, they'd drop the issue. BTW, if you're 65 or over and are a victim, the offender must pay double. Check the notes on the law, in a link I posted earlier.

  9. Qui bono? Find & fine THEM! by crovira · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just gather spam and fine the spammer's client.

    That'll make the clients go away and kill the spam industry. Let'em use another means of advertising because spamming will cost them tens of tousands of dollars a copy.

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  10. Re:Just a hook by SpacePunk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    All spammers can be tracked down. Just because it was sent through an open relay doesnt' mean that he can't be found.

  11. Here's a novel idea by mabu · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Let's pass a law that forces district attorneys to actually prosecute spammers that break the law.

  12. Re:This is a "good thing" by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You should tell that to Louisiana spammer Ronnie Scelson, he seems to think that it's okay. But then he also thinks spamming is okay, and that Scooby-Doo is very deep.

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  13. what problem? by twitter · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The problem is getting spammers to honor the law. First of all, I assume (the article did not say) that the law can only affect spammers who are based in Louisiana.

    What? Why not everyone? Speed in LA, get a ticket. Thumb you nose at that ticket, go to jail. I don't see how spammers sending email to LA that breaks this law would be any different than violating a local speed limit. Spam me, get fined. Scofflaw the fine, go to jail. Seems easy enough, even if the vast majority of spammers get away with it, punishing a few will be sweet.

    The implication that spam has a place in the world, if only it anounces itself, is one I don't like. It's kind of like saying, "It's OK to screw people if only you let them know it first."

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  14. Re:What about offshore spammers by McDutchie · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Most every porn type email I get can be traced back to servers in China or The Netherlands. I doubt those Cajuns will be going overseas anytime soon to prosecute.

    Unless the spam you get is actually in Chinese (etc.), in most cases these are actually American spammers buying offshore "bullet-proof" hosting at premium prices in an attempt to prevent being tracked down and to prevent their sites from being shut down. Offshore hosting does not make one immune from prosecution.

    Tracking them down is actually relatively simple; at some point a spammer will want to be paid, so it's a question of following the money. The offshore hosting problem can only be solved by beating the providers (and/or their uplinks) into submission by massive blocklisting.

  15. Mozilla Thunderbird automatically filters spam by rokzy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I just started using it and it's worked perfect so far.

    I find it a little scary that small programs like Firebird and Thunderbird are infinitely more usable than MS products while costing infintely less. seems like some kind of conservation law is being violated.