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Louisiana Tries Anti-Spam Law

chompyZ writes "The legislative battle against SPAMMING heats-up as a new law became effective yesterday in Louisiana. According to KPLC, the new law requires senders of sexually explicit e-mail to include a note in the subject line, "adv-adult," to let unsuspecting internet users know ahead of time. The Olympian reports that Louisiana officials actually think this will be effective... leaves you wondering if "officials" have any clue how SPAMMERS operate..."

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  1. Great by justsomebody · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now subjetcs will be

    adv-adult: Enlarge your penis

    Way to go, I just don't know if this way leads somewhere:)

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    1. Re:Great by orangesquid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As much as I hate spam, it really bothers me to see any laws which restrict my behavior online. I consider the Internet to be something futuristic, where individuals are free to choose their own code of ethics, rather than having one dictated to them in a larger society, and individuals are free to interpret others' actions as they want and defend themselves as they want. I know that's not very realistic, but the quasi-anarchy "back in the good old days" before the Internet was Serious Business, before the Web was Important was something amazingly freeing and fulfilling. I do not want other people just discovering the realm of computers and global communication to be shoved into just another restrictive, judgemental society like the one in which we all participate in Real Life.

      Spam ruins the online experience in the same way that mass-marketed commercialism does, and I hate to see the Internet become a thing of money and corporate power and not of freedom and individual power, but imposing restrictions doesn't seem to address the issue. However, maybe the problem will always be impossible to solve, because with freedom comes greed, and with freedom comes abuse...

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    2. Re:Great by maelstrom · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Extremely unrealistic... The same case could be made for Slashdot itself. In the early days of /. there were no user accounts, there was no karma whoring because there wasn't a need for moderation at all. The "community" was small enough that you knew everyone and people could be trusted not to spoof other people. As /. grew, changes had to be made to the social structure in order to cope with scale.

      This is true of any society. This is not anything new, as society changed from small family groups to tribes to cities to city states to nations, more laws and force had to be applied to keep things moving smoothly.

      The challenge isn't keeping a state of "quasi-anarchy" at all costs, and whining about your rights. The challenge is taking responsibility and tutoring your elected officials on how law, technology and society intersect. Personally, I think there should be some regulation on unsolicited commercial email. Back in the good ole days I could actually use my email, now I get 20-25 spams a day vs about 1 or 2 actual useful e-mails. Personally, I find that a great restriction on my behavior and a burden to my resources.

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  2. Then we'd see... by dapuk · · Score: 5, Funny

    Subject: adv-4dult

    Body:
    Fr33 g0at pr0n c!ick h3re!

  3. donotspam.gov??? by winstarman · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm waiting to see how futile an http://donotspam.gov would be.

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    1. Re:donotspam.gov??? by sharkey · · Score: 4, Funny

      D'oh! I read that as donutspam.gov, and thought it was a pretty good idea. How disappointing.

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  4. What about offshore spammers by Chatmag · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most every porn type email I get can be traced back to servers in China or The Netherlands. I doubt those Cajuns will be going overseas anytime soon to prosecute.

    Hmm, just got a new porn email, from Pythonvideo, up in Canada. Hope those guys have a large travel budget.

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  5. yeah by dtfinch · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "adv-adult: Fill your prescriptions from Canada, save up to 80% !"

    That would be really helpful if I not only didn't have a spam filter, but took the time to read every spam that didn't have a pornographic title.

    Of course, this only applies to louisianans who send non-anonymous pornographic spam to other louisianans.

  6. New Laws? by heli0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Spammers are already breaking laws; highjacking mail servers, using trojans such as 'jeem' and 'proxy-guzu' to make others send spam, etc. I doubt this law is going to be the one that finally makes them operate ethically.

    Perhaps they need to also make it a crime for an individual in the state to purchase a product or service from a spammer...

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  7. Just a hook by SpacePunk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It may be ineffective in getting spammers to stop their penis and lolita porn spams, but it does give the state a way of prosecuting spammers. Remember, going after a criminal is just a matter of technicality. After all, they got Al Capone for tax evasion of all things.

  8. It might not work...but... by Cat_Byte · · Score: 5, Funny

    At least spammers operating inside the U.S. will be a little nervous when they get several notifications from lawyers after it was traced back to them. Bouncing emails off of or originating from foreign mail servers may be effective for not being able to do anything at the ISP level but if they are caught in their apartment standing in a room full of penis enlargement pill cases where the law can reach them at a business level..... They'll probably wish they hadn't sold it to all those prisoners who are winking & saying "you're my little puppy now".

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  9. How do they plan on enforcing this stupid law(s)? by Dukeofshadows · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Most spammers operate out of other countries these days, as do telemarketers. If you ask one the next time one is on the phone, they usually call from another time zone or Canada (if the target is American). Most spammers operate from servers in Canada or small Pacific Rim countries that would prove immune from this law anyway. Note also that most of these sexually explicit e-mails are easily recognized by anyone literate as they tend to accumulate several consonants at the end of the e-mail title that form babble instead of coherent words. I find this an example of people saber-rattling in preparation for re-election campaigns, especially given that several other meaningless "vote-for-me" laws were modified or enacted at the same time. These include:

    -no more execution of the mentally retarded (already mandated by the Supreme Court)

    -allows telemarketers to call you if you "are referred to them by someone you know"

    -increase penalties against drunk drivers who kill or seriously injure people while driving with over a 0.2 blood alcohol level (as if attempted/ murder is not serious enough to get life in prison anyway)

    -no credit card company can give out anything of value to students unless they also get a brochure

    Some of the new laws make sense, but again there are enough of weird and nonsensical laws that I wonder if such would make it to the legislative table, much less get passed, if not for the election coming up in about a year's time. Until then I await the first case of a spammer getting tried under this law if he/she/it/they are operating from another state or country.

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  10. Good spam defence... no way to be correct by ClarkEvans · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As each state and locality implement their own variant, some requiring "ADV:" in the subject line, some requiring "ADULT:" and this one requiring "adv-adult", all a spammer will have to do is claim that he can't possibly satisfy all of the constraints. Why can't we have a header which marks spam as spam, such as "Solicited: no"? Or just require that all spam use "Precedence: bulk"?

    Not that any of this will be effective... but if they have to legislate something...

  11. adv-adult by SeanTobin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Check out my webcam!

    You can't mod me down! I had adv-adult in the subject line!

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  12. White list by Teun · · Score: 4, Funny

    Handy for those with a spam filter, now you can save the only interesting spam from going to dev/null.

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  13. Re:I AM a LA resident... by justsomebody · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nope, what it would lead to it would be something like that.

    Predefined filter in newer mailers:
    move all mssages where subjects contain adv-adult
    to folder Personal Folders/Scientific matters against world extinction


    and next advertising will be something like protect your self against mom raiding your computer. Use .X.X. mailer

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  14. Re:At least it is a try... by Arker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not a step in the right direction at all. It's a step toward what the spammers want - a legal backdrop to claim that what they're doing is ok. A step in the right direction would be to stop spamming, not to label their spam so they can then claim it's legal for them to steal.

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  15. how i blocked USA spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting


    as 99.9% of spam i recieve is usa based and iam not a USA resident or have any buisness there i managed to block it all simply by filtering the $ sign, works great and hasnt created a false positive in 2years of using this method :-)

  16. As a Louisianan... by Hayzeus · · Score: 4, Funny
    I am proud of my legislature, and fully expect this to decrease the amount of spam coming into my mailbox.

    By "decrease", of course, I mean "exponentially increase unabated just as it has been doing for the last several years".

  17. Why is this different than snail mail? by pmonje · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If I send unsolicited porn through the USPS I can be arrested, why is email any different? You don't hear to many people screaming that not allowing porno junk mail is a violation of freedom of speech.

  18. The internet and the Law by mordac2k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    >> leaves you wondering if "officials" have any clue how SPAMMERS operate..."

    Actually it leaves me wondering if you have any idea how the law operates. As silly as this legislation may at first appear, you have to realize that (mostly) nothing is illegal unless there is a LAW to make it so. Yes, spam is already illegal in many states, but creating a law where spammers must insert adv-adult in their subject line is another point where would-be prosecutors can trip spammers up with, thus increasing penalties and even prison time. Its like when a murder is really heinous, prosecutors dont just try someone for murder 1, they get them on just about every count thats feasible to the case.