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Sony Announces New PS2 Bundle

Thanks to Yahoo!/Reuters for their story describing Sony's amended PlayStation 2 hardware bundle, explaining :"...the $199 PS2, with a network adapter that allows users to play games online... [will now be] bundled with the game 'ATV Offroad Fury 2'." Sony also said "it would continue to sell the PS2 without the online hardware for $179", although it had expected to phase out this deal. However, "...demand is currently running about 20 percent for the online bundle and 80 percent for the stand-alone unit", and GameStop executives quoted in the article "... noted that they thought the $199 PS2 online package had not been selling as well as they believed Sony had planned" - seems Sony are trying to sweeten the online bundle deal.

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  1. Because.... by Apreche · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Most people who are big on consoles aren't so big on pcs. People who aren't big on pcs don't have broadband internet connections. Most people still have dial up, remember that. These people aren't going to get broadband just to hook the ps2 up to the net. And they aren't going to buy a net adapter they don't need. This is why Nintendo is going big with it's cube lan strategy instead of the net. Cube fans have cube fan friends, and cubes are small and portable, and gbas are plentiful. 4 cubes and 16 gbas with appropriate linkage with 4tvs are more fun with more friends than one guy in his house with one cube and the net.

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    1. Re:Because.... by Webere · · Score: 2, Informative

      Most people still have dial up, remember that. These people aren't going to get broadband just to hook the ps2 up to the net.

      The PS2 network adapter includes a modem, you know. Actually, you probably didn't know that. Sony seems to keep it a secret for some reason, when they should be making it well known, since, as you pointed out, much of their market probably doesn't have broadband.

  2. Progressive DVD Compatibility by robbway · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In the article: "Previously, Sony had sold a new version of the PS2 with improved DVD functionality and the network unit for $199 and the traditional, older version of the PS2 for $179. It had intended to phase out the separate $179 offer entirely but will now continue it with the new, upgraded hardware. "

    The new hardware includes support for progressive-scan DVDs. There seems be be little point in buying one without, so make sure you get the latest hardware if you buy or re-buy a PS2.

  3. No kidding. by Inoshiro · · Score: 3, Interesting

    According to the Sony people, the network bundle is supposed to be the new official PS2 bundle. After the slow sales numbers, the chain of stores I work at reduced the price to sell more of the units. All chains in the area that sell it have matched the price, and most give away a game with it (although the game is either Turok Evoluton or Everquest Online Adventures, both of which are big flops).

    The "normal" PS2 bundle is supposed to be discontinued, and the 179$ US (249$ CDN) price point is supposed to be a clearance price. We actually ran out of PS2s a few weeks back. They were listed as discontinued in the computer from our supplier, and the chain had to shift our on hand-PS2 units around stores in the region. We received a shipment with PS2s last week, though. I don't know if that's because Sony is acknowledging that the general public doesn't care about online with PS2, or because we had more PS2s is a wharehouse somewhere.

    The bottom line is, Xbox with Xbox live and easy to do system link has a couple of great features. Of the Xboxes shipped, about 1 in 20 are online. If each person renews their Live subscription, that's about $30,000,000 CDN every year that MS gets just for running a service. 1 in 100 PS2s are currently online; Sony knows that this is partially because the games (which is why they're pushing to have 50 online titles by fall 2004), and partially because console accesories that aren't memory cards or controllers with rumble features typically don't penetrate very well. By making the network adaptor standard, they hope to catch up with Microsoft and not just hand them a potiential new market.

    Of course, I think it's way too late for that with 50 million PS2 units already shipped. IMO, their best bet is to just get something ready for their next-gen console. The Sony people I know seem to think that with the HD and EyeToy, the PS2 will become a new digital media hub that will have people using the PS2 as an online video phone, TiVo, etc. The network adaptor is supposed to be the first step to all the pieces of equipment that upgrade the PS2's features. We'll see what happens when FF 11 comes out, since it's rumoured to come with the HD in North America.

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  4. That's great, but... by Man+In+Black · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's the price of the games that keeps me from buying new consoles. I don't mind dumping $200 on a new system, but when the games are as expensive as they are (In Canada, finding games between $70-80 is not uncommon), it's a much bigger investment. Of course, if there were more worthwhile games, then I might be less opposed to spending as much.

    I'm waiting for the Gamecube price drop (The current price is fair in my opinion... but with the rumors spreading, I'll feel like an idiot if the price drops a few days after I buy one!). The games for it are getting fairly cheap, and the local EB has a lot of pre-owned games for $40 (CDN) or so. Coincidentally, this is almost the same situation that made me buy my beloved Dreamcast...

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    1. Re:That's great, but... by burns210 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      then don't buy the games when they are first released, wait a few months and get them at a cheaper price... if you want the latest and greatest, you have to pay for it.

    2. Re:That's great, but... by the_riaa · · Score: 2, Informative
      I haven't purchased a game this year for that reason, I would rather rent what will probably be blah for 6.50 than buy for $50+.

      As a GC owner since February, I don't really understand this. This year alone, Zelda:TWW (and the OOT bonus disc), Mario Golf, F-Zero GX, and Soul Calibur 2 are all rediculously fun games. (I imported the latter two) - 2003 has been quite a good year for us GameCube owners.

      While I will agree with you that by far and away, most games are bland and boring or pure shit, there are definitely some worthwhile titles out for the GC this year. The only two games I really wanted to play but ended up renting were Wario World (extremely fun, really short though) and Enter The Matrix (movie themed horseshit in a dvd-case), good rents in both cases (spent $13 instead of $100).

      If Donkey Kong Racing was something you were really looking forward to, then the combo of Kirby's Air Ride and Mario Kart:Double Dash, both of which are set to hit American shores later this year, should hit the spot for your racing needs. That, or the Midway title 'Freaky Flyers', which is supposedly a good deal like Diddy Kong Racing, but without the odd (yet fun) Kong licensed characters.

    3. Re:That's great, but... by Sentry21 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem isn't (necessarily) that there aren't worthwhile games, it's that they're so spread out. And keep in mind the vast selection of already released PS2 games, if you had the system.

      I factor that in with the time it takes to get buggy games to work, the time it takes to upgrade and debug drivers, the cost of upgrading hardware every year (I'm lucky if it's only every year) so that I can play the latest games and have them look good, and so on. It's a pain in the ass just to do all that, plus it means paying for a Windows machine to do it on.

      Then I look at consoles. I can get a PS2 for $179+tx, an XBox for the same, or a Gamecube for $200+tx. Games? Sure, they can be expensive, but I just stay a few months behind the curve. I didn't buy a GameCube when they were new, but the games that I have are good anyway - and I didn't pay much for them. Got Zelda for free, got Megaman:NT for $20, got my $5 worth out of it, then traded it back for $15 and got Metroid (which my roommate is now addicted to too, sucks for him that I'm moving out in a week).

      That's two games that have kept me occupied for the better part of a month, for $50 on top of the price of the system. I started playing Halo on a friend's system, and I can tell I'd be playing that quite a bit too if I had an XBox. Knights of the Old Republic would keep me occupied for a month or so at least, and so would Skies of Arcadia Legends, FFX, FFX2, Soul Calibur 2 (Link baby! Yeah!), Halo 2, Fable, Starcraft:Ghost or any one of a dozen other titles, none of which will be coming out for PC.

      What would I play if I had a PC? Maybe Ghost Recon co-op. Maybe. Neverwinter Nights/Udrentide for sure. Rise of Nations. C&C:Generals:Zero Hour That's about it. Those are the only PC-exclusive games I'd play.

      For me, the good bets are on systems. Unfortunately, none of the good online games are PS2 - unless you like EA Sports, and let's face it, who doesn't? - so their online pack is doing horribly. And there's only two controller ports. And the graphics aren't as good. But oh well, it's all good anyway.

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  5. Fixing the wrong problem.. by tprime · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sony's online business problem is the problem, not the price of the console. Microsoft did the online "thing" right by charging one price for all online access (Phantasy Star Online is the exception, not the rule) Sony's "leave it up to the game publisher to handle the online pricing and server support" is what is hurting their online presence. Having to pay multiple monthly costs for using different services is too much to keep track of and people just aren't buying into it. IMHO, Sony needs to change their direction with the PS3 online or they will eventually be looking up to M$.

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  6. Other factors might help by cbuskirk · · Score: 2

    Perhaps they could bundle a damn memory card with the network bundle. It is a hell of a lot more useful than a game which I will admit is fun but has use for only a few months where the memory card will last.

    1. Re:Other factors might help by Fammy2000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I agree, but the profit margin on memory cards are huge. Essentially, it's an 8MB flash card. I can get a 64MB Compact Flash for the price of a PS2 memory card.

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