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During Blackout, Ham Radio Shined

Mark Cantrell writes "An interesting bit on AP through Yahoo today. Seems that ham radio (which recently had a bit of backlash here on Slashdot from a few people thinking it was useless, outdated technology), really shined through during the blackouts. When the power went, ham radio operators, using battery backup power, were able to help coordinate emergency workers while the cell phone networks were overloaded. For anyone wondering why interference due to power line broadband is considered a bad thing, well, there ya go."

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  1. Got our backup power ready by SuperQ · · Score: 4, Informative

    I keep my HT charged up.. and can plug it into 12v car any time.. Our club repeater has 2 APC's on different parts of the equipment to keep it online for hours. We also have the repeater on a backup generator.

    If the power outage had hit minnesota, I'd be 30 seconds away from my radio, ready to find out where everyone is, and what is going on.

    -KC0NBY

    1. Re:Got our backup power ready by Golias · · Score: 2, Informative
      If the power goes out in Minnesota, it doesn't take me 30 seconds to find out where everybody is and what's going on. I already know.

      Where everybody is: At home or on their way there.
      What's going on: Everybody is eating all the ice cream and steak in their freezers by candle-light. We midwesterners do so hate to let food go to waste.

      Come on, for any given block in the Twin Cities, power has gone out at least twice in the last five years, due to trees hitting power lines, weather-related incidents, etc.

      One time, when I was working at the PJ Tower (a few years ago when Tad Piper actually owned the brokerage, rather than an out-of-state bank), some idiot took down half of down-town by cutting a main with a front-loader. Was there panic in the skyways? People scrambling for HAM radios? No, of course not. We just took a slightly longer lunch. It kind of sucked walking down stairs from the 11th floor, but at least we weren't on the 40th. Power fails, life goes on. No need to have generators or elaborate contingency plans unless you are running a hospital or something.

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  2. Was my savior. by niko9 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm a paramedic in NYC, and when the lights went out, I went straight into work at the hospital.

    Before I left the house, I took along my HTX-245 Radio Shack dual band radio ($49 on clearance).
    I tried several repeaters, and an operator on one, informed me that the repeater was up on battery power, he was standing by with a working landline, and was available to us for phone calls in case we needed to contact our telemetry physician.

    The admins and my boss at the hospital were very impressed, more so when the EMS radios went down, and my HTX-245 600mw radio was our only link that time in the field.

    73's N2PDB

    1. Re:Was my savior. by grishnav · · Score: 4, Informative

      No big surprise to us here in Oregon. We saw the value of Amateur Radio as a reliable communications backup years ago. As things stand, if there were a large-scale outage in Oregon, the HEART (Hospital Emergency Amateur Radio Team) would activate, alone with Oregon ARES, and individual hospotials' groups, and provide a reliable infrastructure for the Portland-Metro area hospitals (and more broadly, any Oregon hospitals - and possibly later even interstate hospitals) to communicate

      As things currently stand here, each hospital maintains it's own group of volunteers to staff the hospital, passing communications both between departments internally, and also acting as the voice to the outside world. (I volunteer at Providence Portland for the Disaster Communications Team.) The individual groups (in my case, DCT) interface internally with their home hospital, and externally with their home HEART net to pass traffic between local hospitals (in my case, hospitals in the Portland-Metro area). HEART then acts as the radio infrastructure for local hospitals, and the connection to the district ARES net, which can pass emergency traffic through different parts of the state (via the various nets for each ARES district). In theory, our system could scale up to provide a reliable interstate and even national communications, but I don't see a crisis of that magnitude necessatating it any time soon... Not to mention that I doubt the emergency services between states would cooperate well enough to have it work anyway. :)

      The only gap we haven't filled at this point is Ambulance communications, but groups like Mountain Wave, whom do emergency-service style dispatching in other capacities already, are slowly being recognised as a resource and stepping up to the task. Sadly, that's still probably a ways in the future before actual MOUs are crafted. But we'll see...

  3. Past tense of Shine is Shone by Tom+Davies · · Score: 2, Informative

    Damned illiterates :-)

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  4. Re:Power line emissions by TheOtherChimeraTwin · · Score: 1, Informative
    ....Right, because when the power is out, those power lines sure generate a lot of interference.

    The interference is on the receiving end.

  5. Re:It's worth noting... by Detritus · · Score: 2, Informative

    HF can be fairly reliable if you are willing to invest the money in equipment, antennas and trained engineers and operators. If you don't have access to a satellite, it is still a practical means of communication.

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  6. Re:HAM ? CB ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    CB is an unlicensed(as in no license by the user, equipment still needs to be certified) service at about 11 meters.

    Amatuer radio(ham) has licensed operators that can run on different frequecies and can run much more power if the situation requires it. (Lots as in 4 watts max AM, 12 watts max SSB for CB (I think) and 1500 watts max any mode most places for the ham stuff)

  7. Re:It's worth noting... by CharlieG · · Score: 4, Informative

    40 Meters (aka HF) was used between the various OEMs and Albany and Red Cross National

    Disclaimer
    I'm the Queens County Emergency Coordinator of ARES - One of the groups called out. I "work" (2 levels down) for Tom from the article

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  8. Re:Cuz we can't rely on battery backed up cell tow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    "emergency personel should have access to ham radios."

    They have CB radios genius. The trunk mountd units which are in every cop car built in the last 30 years have a range of 20+ miles to a large fixed antenna at the station and 7 miles to another mobile antenna. There is even a set of frequencies set aside for government emergency use only. How do you think they have been communicating during those two days, smoke signals?

  9. Re:stupid question by Darcojin · · Score: 2, Informative

    A great place to start would be the Http://www.arrl.org site, the is the most well know Amatuer Radio Site around (BTW we are also working on being able to use a title other that "amatuer" as is demonstrated over and over again duing every day activities as well as emergencies) and will hopefully give you a better idea of the scope of what HAM radio has to offer the personally and publicly.

  10. Re:Good use for HAM by niko9 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Your missing the point. Ham radio is there for YOU when you need it most. It's not just blackouts, eathquakes, search and rescue, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, tsunamis, biblical plagues, it's so much more.

    Almost all the hi tech radio technology you use on a daily basis, has had some direct influence from ham radio. You like WiFi? Who do you think were the primary experimenters in that frequeny range? Who do you think you still share some of that band with?

    What's the best way to get some young people interested in technology and have some direct hands on experience building their own gear?

    Ever see somebody make a repeater out of 2 battery opertaed hand held radios that can extend the range of other portables for miles? Ham's do that on a daily basis when public service departments (Fire, EMS, Police) don't have the resources to do so.

    It's just not widley publicized for some reason.
    I guess it makes sense to take pictures of firefighters in bunker gear (I'm not knocking them) than to see some guy hunched over a couple of radios relaying important info.

    Please check out www.arrl.org to find out more.

  11. Re:stupid question by Lxy · · Score: 5, Informative

    A few sites of interest:

    American Relay Radio League
    QRZ

    Hams do lots of things. Most of the time it's general banter, contacting whoever you can contact. Often times it's used as a telephone replacement, since it's easy (and free) to talk to many people at once (aka conference calling). There's also contesting, if you check out the events calendar on the ARRL site I linked to you'll see a bunch of "try to contact as many people in the allotted time according to these rules" type events. While it may seem silly at times, it gives us practice.

    Often times contests require us to run on our own power, give us a limited set of hardware, and the objective is to make contacts. Hmm.. sound like an emergency drill? Hams respond quickly because in all our non-emergency downtime we get practice so jumping on the air in a moment's notice is almost second nature.

    It's mostly covered in the article, but the things that set hams apart are:

    * We always have our own power
    * We know how to conduct ourselves on the radio for maximum efficiency (everyone knows how to take turns reporting etc)
    * We know how our radios work so when they break, we can fix them quickly
    * We can make damn near anything from a coil of wire and a battery in the middle of nowhere

    Yes, McGyver was definitely a ham radio op.

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  12. Too True by RealisticWeb.com · · Score: 3, Informative
    I agree completely. I belong to an international chruch that has food distribution centers all over the country. Each center has a HAM radio operator. Once a week they get on the horn and communicate, and everyone relays messages for anyone who can't hear the 'central command'. In the case of an emergancy they work together to help determine where the food needs to be shipped to, and also to help local emergancy personel.

    I don't know how anyone could discount HAM radio. You can run it in your car and talk to people thousands of miles away. I am very glad there are still people out there that can communicate over large distances even with no internet, phone lines, or power lines.

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  13. You going to train them? Equip them? by TWX · · Score: 5, Informative

    "I'd argue that, instead of relying on grungy old men with ham radios, that emergency personel should have access to ham radios. It'd probably cost a lot less to do that than to create a telecommunications infrastructure resistant to blackouts."

    Not everyone in ham radio is a 'grungy old man'. I'm 23, and I'm licensed. My girlfriend at the time I got into Amateur Radio is licensed, she was who got me interested in the field. A friend of mine in his 30's is licensed, a former employer if mine is licensed, and he was the Systems Architect for a communications project of very large scale.

    You probably know at least one ham radio operator, who probably has some old Kenwood radio somewhere waiting for a need to be used. I don't drive around with five antennas on my car, there is an antenna cable coming into the passenger compartment, but the mount sits in the trunk with the antenna so I can put it up if I feel that I need to use it. I keep good batteries near where I store my radios, and I have one VHF HT for quick use, and one all-mode HT for when real problems hit.

    And besides, are you going to train all of the emergency personnel on how to use the equipment and proper ettiquite? It's not exactly rocket science, but there are enough emergency personnel who would rather worry about learning how to keep critically injured people alive and let someone else do the talking that I'll gladly be one of the 'someone else'.

    And two hours on a cell tower you say? I can go days on a set of batteries on my 2m HT, and a full day on the all-mode, if I have to, and I have enough power to go miles without any relay. I think that's pretty good odds for an extended blackout.

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  14. Re:Cuz we can't rely on battery backed up cell tow by frovingslosh · · Score: 2, Informative
    I'd argue that, instead of relying on grungy old men with ham radios, that emergency personel should have access to ham radios.

    You should educate yourself on what really happens in disasters like this. Hams are well organized to be deployed in these situations. The emergency personel not only get access to the equipment but also to people trained to operate them and coordinate in a very orderly way, not only with other hams but with various emergency services as well. Actually many more emergency responders are trained hams than I suspect you realize, but those who are not would not be very effective in knowing everything they needed to operate a station without causing additional problems. Check with your local Emergency Management people and they can tell you if they would rather have hams helping or access to some radios (hint: the cops, fire departments, paramedics and other emergency responders already have radios, but hams still make very important contributions).

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  15. What good is Censored Communication? by billstewart · · Score: 3, Informative
    Yes, hams get to play with cool toys. But ham radio is censored - it's self-censorship by the users, under the threat of license revocation and social pressure from other hams, but it's still censored, and that makes it much less useful. That's why unlicensed spectrum like the 2.4GHz band used by 802.11b and 5GHz used by 802.11a are *so* critical. We could do so much more if the ham bands weren't censored.


    Hams aren't allowed to talk about business on the air (unlike CB radio or some of the other mobile bands), because that got in the way of the FCC's New Deal views of how they wanted to regulate the quasi-nationalized airwaves and monopoly telephone and radio broadcast companies, and they're not allowed to use encryption (it took a long time before even ASCII was officially recognized, because it's a Code that's not Morse) because Foreign Spies might use it, and I think you're still not even allowed to use Bad Language because it's a broadcast medium (that doesn't totally suck, because it is more polite, but since you can lose your license, it still sucks.)

    CB radio used to be semi-censored and did require licenses, and was limited to 5 watts which was usually a moderate distance in those days, but the FCC lost control of it during the 1970s flood of truckers and low-cost radio hardware, in spite of it being a very limited band. So some guy in Florida with a kilowatt linear ham amplifier could blow out CB radios across half the country... And you can use walkie-talkies with very limited range - the non-licensed FRS stuff pretends to go two miles, but you're supposed to have a license to use the GMRS channels which pretend to do 5-7 miles.

    The ARPANET had its Acceptable Use Policies against non-official use, and its unofficial very flexible policies that you could talk about anything you want _except_ business, and about official government-or-university-research-related business, but companies that had Arpanet connections and UUCP connections couldn't technically relay email between them unless it was AUP-permitted email. So as the Internet evolved, and had the connectivity to be much more useful than dialup UUCP mail, it was very hard to tell whether you could legally send somebody email about business that your company was doing with their company, because it might be crossing AUP-censored territory. Eventually the Commercial Internet Exchange was formed to let normal businesses use Internet connections, especially email, without violating those laws or policies. But that worked because network connections use wires and fibers that can connect private entities, even if you use TCP/IP on them, while Ham Radio uses the nationalized radio spectrum so it can't escape (unless you wanted to use ham radio technology in metal pipes or something silly like that.)

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  16. weather by briskphone · · Score: 3, Informative

    One service that hams provide quite often that EVERYONE benefits from is skywarn. In threatening weather hams known as spotters keep on the lookout for tornadoes, high winds, hail, etc. and report it from several locations at once. A almost real time of localized weather can be attained. Whenever you hear the weatherman say that spotters seen a funnel cloud or a tornado touchdown, they are talking about hams.

  17. It isn't real? Tell that to the RACES teams... by TWX · · Score: 5, Informative

    "I'd much rather have a REAL backup system than spend money reducing power line interference for HAM radio operators."

    This isn't real?

    Looks pretty organised to me. RACES (for HAM Radio) and REACT (for CB et al.) have been organized for quite some time. They provide coordinated relay of information when a natural disaster (or worse) occurs. They're usually up and running within minutes, and they listen for emergency transmissions from other operators, to forward to the right authorities. Sounds like a good system to me...

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  18. Digital Modes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Another fact which hasn't been noted here, are all the digital modes being used on HF. Technics like PSK31 and other modes, can get signals through even under noisy conditions. Ham radio is not about old grumpy men using CW, but an interesting field for experimenting with technology. Some licensed amateurs frequently use packet radio, satelite links and other interesting and/or obscure methods like moon bouncing. Ham radio is still alive and kicking, just try to be a bit more open-minded and check out the technology before you dismiss it.

  19. YOU FAIL IT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Click the Clicky thing!!!1!!one!!1!11

  20. Re:Eschew homogeneity by Jay+Maynard · · Score: 3, Informative

    Even if the cell phone networks switch to alternate power and microwave linking, there's no coordination to minimize interference - indeed, no mechanism to do so. Everybody tries to call, and the system chokes.

    It did exactly that during the power outage. In fact, there were more than a few news stories about people using good old-fashioned pay phones because the cell network was unusable.
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  21. Re:As if /.'ers care by Jay+Maynard · · Score: 2, Informative

    All else didn't fail. Some cell phone networks were still up.

    None of the ones I had any experience with - and yes, I was in the area that evening - were usable. They were too jammed...just like they were on 9/11 (and yes, I was there then, too).

    Cellphone networks, like all telephone networks are designed on the premise that only a fraction of their capacity will be in use at one time. During a disaster, that assumption crashes in flames, because *everyone* wants to call and let someone knoe they're all right.
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  22. Re:shined, shone by kkirk007 · · Score: 2, Informative
    There used to be three separate past-tense verb endings in the English language. Slowly over the last thousand years the language has been changing, and one of those changes has been a shift towards a single common past-tense verb ending of "-ed".

    A few old/new words:

    swam/swimmed

    dreamt/dreamed

    burnt/burned

    snuc k/sneaked

    The list goes on and on. The point is, I for one embrace anything that makes life easier for us. Damn Noah Webster for locking in spellings a hundred years ago!