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Zalman TNN 500A - Complete Heatpipe Cooled Case
SlashCrunchPop writes "Zalman is about to release a completely fanless computer case based entirely on heatpipe cooling capable of keeping even the hottest CPUs cool. Cool silence, at last?" The article's in German, but the pictures speak for themselves.
For those of you who want to know
For the people who don't read German, here's the page translated by babelfish... Which is, unfortunately readable at best...
http://www.buildsilentpc.com
[My english is better than most other people's Turkish, so please point out mistakes politely. Thank you.]
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I can't think of a good sig...
The author needs to get out more. A lot more. In fact, he shouldn't be allowed indoors until he's had a cold shower.
Panurge has posted for the last time. Thanks for the positive moderations.
Zalman is a South Korean company.
But they won't get old. Manufacturers and tests show that a relatively small (10K) increase in temperature can significantly decrease a drive's lifetime. There's not much needed to keep a consumer drive cool, though. A low-noise fan (80mm, 1500RPM) keeps the temperature of my drives so low that they don't feel warm to the touch while they get quite toasty without the airflow.
Fight hunger. Filet a politician and send him to a 3rd world country of your choice.
"Zalman fanless PC
:-)]. It took long for such a product to appear on the mass-market. The manufacturer will be hardly able to produce enough to satisfy market demand. Though it's promising on paper we will now need to wait for priceinfo and more information. One thing is clear already, the price will be far below DIY construction sets, since Zalman is known to be specialized in mass production. The 6 heatpipes for the CPU, 2 for the graphicscard and 10 for the harddisk will keep the system as cool as possible. We are looking forward to this new Zalman case and hope to say say bye bye to our fans and noisemakers by Christmas.
..." ???]
Finally, it's told to us [uhm "(un)endliche Ruhe im Karton" means so much more though
Off coarse I'll try to inform you about this in the future [ "Ja naturlich bleibe ich am Ball
What's more to say about this thing, only creme de la creme superlatives will suffice. It makes you feel all soddy inside [ "Da bekomme ich feuchte Augen"]. Heatpipes (18 !!), and more heatdispensers than you will probably need.
It will be perfected silence because the case is fully sealed. It's the first one where even optical drives will be decoupled from the case.
Better is not possible!
More silent is not possible!
Due to be sold in october at
www.alternate.de
Maybe you should start saving money."
PDF specsheet on the case => http://www.sharkacorp.com/pdf/TNN500A_Catalog.pdf
Those who can, do. Those who cannot, sue.
Zalman TNN 500A - Complete Heatpipe Cooled Case
From Zalman's site:
Whenever the offence inspires less horror than the punishment, the rigour of penal law is obliged to give way...
is available here:
http://www.sharkacorp.com/pdf/TNN500A_Catalog.pdf
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Microsft spel chekar vor sail, worgs grate !!!
When doing plumbing I used to have 2 long springs that slid inside the pipe with a length of string tied to one end in order to retrieve the spring. The springs were sized to fit inside 15mm and 22mm pipes. The spring was about 2 foot long. I could then bend the pipe to the shape I wanted and the spring would stop the pipe from collapsing. I would just pull the spring out with the string afterwards.
I also used to have a pipe bender which is a curved form with a gully to take the pipe. A long handle attached to a roller bends the pipe in the gully. It is easy to make a form like this using ply wood. Get 2 sheets of thick strong ply about 6 inches square and a sheet of strong ply the same thickness as the pipe you wish to bend. Use a jigsaw to cut the curve you want into the pipe sized piece of ply and clamp it between the 2 squares using g-clamps. Bend the pipe using the form and finish of freehand to make any fine changes after. As long as any major bends are made using the form any small adjustments should not cause the pipe to collapse.
The tools that you really need to buy are for creating the unions on the ends. Olives are OK but flares are better.
That would not be useful with these small pipes. I used to have a pipe
I love stacking my barbecues in the shed at the end of summer - you can't beat a bit of grill on grill action.
"What does it cost?"
$1,000(US)
"Does it fit under my Desk?"
Dimensions: 400(L) x 286(W) x 607(H) mm
Whenever the offence inspires less horror than the punishment, the rigour of penal law is obliged to give way...
http://www.windys.com.br/files/tnn2b.jpg
21Kg (46 lbs.)
Whenever the offence inspires less horror than the punishment, the rigour of penal law is obliged to give way...
Why do Germans still go for all-black, finned military chic?
Let me satisfy your pathetic suspicion by saying "Because Adolf Hitler would like to have it that way."
Are you satisfied now? My american friend?
Some examples:
Translation (German original contains a number of colloquial expressions which don't translate 1:1 into English): "What can I say? A top-notch piece of engineering. I am drooling!"
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OK, this is the complete text translated (and I have to add, this guy gets *pretty* emotional about this case, and uses a lot of colloquialisms).
:-)
Zalman fan-less PC
Preamble:
Finally, never-ending silence in the box. It took a long time for a product like this to be produced for the mass market. The manufacturer likely will be swamped by the large number of pre-orders. While its technical specs already convince us on paper, we are waiting for the first samples and pricing information. But one thing should be clear right away: The price will be way below any self-made constructions, since Zalman is known to specialize on uncompromising mass production. 6 heat pipes for the CPU and two more for the graphics card, as well as 10 for the hard disk should keep the system optimally cool. Let's look forward to it, and start saying good-bye to all these fans and noise makers right now. I hope it's christmas soon
Well, what more can I say, the cream of the crop. It brings tears to my eyes. More heat pipes (18 of them!!) and cooling elements than you ever wanted.
Silence in its perfected form, since this is a completely closed case. The first PC case where also optical drives can be de-coupled and their noise dampened.
More is not technically feasible!
More silent is not possible!
From october on, this case will be available at www.alternate.de
So, start saving now!
And of course, I'll keep at it. (I guess the author means he'll post updates)
The surface area of the pipe is significantly diminished compared to other similarly designed systems. This leads me to believe that there will be much more "air heat". Fortunately, this shouldn't affect the circuitry.
Another difference I picked up on immediately is the use of motor oil as the cooling fluid. This will mean that the entire chassis will be at least 5 pounds heavier. Not a big concern for most.
The final aspect I will comment on is the use of "induction through aerodynamics". I will only say that you better have your air conditioner blowing toward the computer, or better yet, a small fan.
Preliminarily, I give it a B-. I do hold out hope that it is better than the pictures show it to be.
You can achieve a quiet PC for much less cash. I bought:
A Big HSF with 80mm temp controlled fan (normally runs at 200rpm).
A Fortron PSU with 120mm fan.
2 temp controlled case fans which run at 1300rpm
For about $100 you can make your machine so quiet you can barely tell it's on.
More info
They can ALL double as space heaters, regardless of the case/cooling system. Think about it -- the same amount of waste heat is always generated; it's only a question of how that heat is moved away from the hot spots in the system.
It does look like a giant heat seak, though. I wonder how hot the case itself gets.
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[uhm "(un)endliche Ruhe im Karton" means so much more though
This refers to "peace/quiet [Ruhe] in the case/box".
[ "Ja naturlich bleibe ich am Ball
"Naturally I remain on the ball" - "On the ball" is a colloquialism that means "attentive" or "vigilant".
It makes you feel all soddy inside [ "Da bekomme ich feuchte Augen"].
"My eyes [Augen] get moist", i.e. "I am emotionally/spritually moved".
I want to drag this out as long as possible. Bring me my protractor.
Here's a link to a story about the case in English. HTH.
Heat pipes generally don't contain water but some other kind of solvent which is specific to the temperature range they want the pipe to work at. Generally it's not particularly conductive, but a bit flammable, not that there is enough heat to ignite it in a PC. Leaks would also tend to be slow and could be picked up by a rise in temperature.
Save energy -> here here!!! :-)
Ignorant? Hmmmmm, very mature of you to say so. But anyway, we've all been a teenager:
As has been mentioned you are off by an order of magnitude. I have a german widget which actually measures the wattage going through a plug. My nForce computer with Athlon XP2100+ uses in total 100Watts under full load and something like 95Watts when idling (which surprised me). My nForce2 with o/ced Athlon XP2400+ uses 150Watts under full load and again no less than 140Watts when idling.
I always like giving underclocking a go every now and again to see how low things will go. It's just as challenging/much fun as overclocking only your goal is silence instead of speed. Haven't made any wattage measurement of that yet.
If you want speed and low wattages/voltages, then I think the Intel Centrino laptop processor is 'market-leader' at the minute, although I doubt you could find separate ATX motherboards for it. The AMD Opteron with it's SOI technology also looks like a pretty energy efficient beast.
And of course if you're going to leave your computer on at least run a Grid client like www.climateprediction.net's. There wattage difference (from my measurements) really is minimal and their beta client is impressively stable already.
Actually, as shown on the spec sheet pdf which somebody else in this thread linked to, the box uses a "No-Fan Power Supply" employing "MPPT technology and the HSC method" ... in brief, heat from the PSU seems to be transferred to the case shell, which acts as heat sink.
In context with the post to which you are replying, "instant" would mean zero delay from one event to the next, that is, zero fractions of a second.
If there is a delay, any delay, even the tiniest fraction of a second, then it's not instantaneous. Maybe it's "almost instantaneous".
I realize that I am straying somewhat off topic here, but to give an example, the memory modules that I design, simulate and test have a transmission delay of something on the order of half a nanosecond from a register to the memory device. That's
The long and the short? "Instantaneous" means zero delay between one event and the next. "Almost instantaneous" is something else.
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