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Samba Team Points Out SCO's Hypocrisy

An anonymous reader noted an article talking about the Samba Team's Statement to SCO. While Darl McBride blasts the GPL, his company simultaneously announces the use of Samba 3 in their OpenServer product. I'm not sure if it breaks my heart or boils my blood to read this stuff. Probably a little of both.

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  1. samba team... by havaloc · · Score: 5, Funny

    should ask SCO to pay for a license...

    1. Re:samba team... by techstar25 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Here's a start
      Sorry, but I'm at work and I only have access to Microsoft Paint right now. But maybe we can have a new /. contest where we all "decorate" this picture.

    2. Re:samba team... by critter_hunter · · Score: 3, Funny

      In a bit of a hurry there, but there you go

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    3. Re:samba team... by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Darl pauses for a few seconds.

      "That is an excellent question. As you well know, SCO is committed to maintaining the value of intellectual property rights. To that end, we have begun gathering proof that thousands of lines of our System V code have found their way into Samba software."

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    4. Re:samba team... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      They can charge everyone a fee of $50,000 do download and then give a "non-sco" discount of $50,000.

    5. Re:samba team... by red+floyd · · Score: 2, Funny

      Given Darl's history, they'd go with:

      4) Claim the GPL is invalid. Distribute Samba Anyways. Claim that IBM copied derivative trade secrets into samba and that they own samba. Sue Samba for theft of IP (see SCO AFPS). Watch their stock go through the roof. Make millions selling their inflated stock.

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  2. SCO reply by IFF123 · · Score: 5, Funny

    So when can we expect SCO to sue Samba? (I Assume they too infringle on SCO's code)

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    1. Re:SCO reply by c13v3rm0nk3y · · Score: 4, Funny
      ...I Assume they too infringle on SCO's code...

      I know it was a smple typo, but I love the word "infringle" you've invented.

      in-frin-gle
      v. in-frin-gled, in-frin-gling, in-frin-gles
      v. tr.
      1. To appear to transgress or exceed the limits of; to not violate: infringle a contract; infringle a patent.
      2. Obsolete. To fail to defeat; to validate.
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    2. Re:SCO reply by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Funny

      I know it was a smple typo, but I love the word ....

      ahhh.... love the irony here.... anyway, let's have some fun with this.

      smple
      adj. smplest, smpler


      this word contains smp, and is therefore property of SCO

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    3. Re:SCO reply by c13v3rm0nk3y · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'll pretend that I did that on purpose. Stupid Dell keyboard.

      I'm thinking "smpler" is prounounced like "stapler" in "Office Space".

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    4. Re:SCO reply by Glock27 · · Score: 2, Funny
      I prefer:

      in-frin-gle
      v. in-frin-gled, in-frin-gling, in-frin-gles
      v. tr.

      1. To infringe in some way by mingling copyrighted material with another work: SCO infringled Linux code into their Unix product.
      ROFL.
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  3. Well, what do you expect by emtboy9 · · Score: 3, Funny

    from a company who has a lot of nebulous claims, and no substance... kind of like my ex-girlfriend.

    All talk and no foreplay.

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  4. Ahhh by CaptBubba · · Score: 2, Funny

    The noon SCO story. I an practically set my watch by it!

  5. SCO sues itself by grasshoppa · · Score: 5, Funny

    You watch, SCO is getting ready to sue itself. It makes sense, when you really hunker down and think about it

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    1. Re:SCO sues itself by BrynM · · Score: 2, Funny

      Are you saying they would settle? I can hear it now: "We won a major out of court battle about this with a large software company, so you should settle too. Umm.. Yeah. The large company was us, but they... err... we settled!!"

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  6. In other news... by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Samba released a version of Samba with a security hole big enough to sneak a small african country through. Following the disclosure of the exploit, the Samba team released a patch which, according to the grinning spokesperson of the Samba team, "... is vastly incompatible with any SCO product or system.". Further commentary from the Samba team is unavailable as no one was able to regain composure after laughing at the latest SCO news on slashdot regarding the security hole.

    "I find this unacceptable and immoral!", according to Darl McBride, who further commented "Have we sued them yet? Have we? No? Sue them! ... What do you mean, 'no legal grounds'?! Goddamn you Chris, you lazy bastard! Just think up some crap for a reason to sue them! Hey, is that mic still on?". Currently, in another barrage of lawsuits, the SCO group filed suit against the Samba team but refuses to disclose what they are actually suing for and also sued this press agency for using copyrighted SMP code in our programs. Our resident VB coder was puzzled. "Is that even possible? Maybe you should ask the HTML guy..."

  7. Gratuitous SP reference by TClevenger · · Score: 4, Funny
    I'm not sure if it breaks my heart or boils my blood to read this stuff.

    "No, no. We need to freeze his hot heart with a cool island song."

  8. Re:Heh, this can get funny by jdreed1024 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Well if GPL is invalid, then it's obvious that SCO is infringing on the copywrites of Samba developers by including Samba into their products.

    In theory, yes. However, few people are aware that SCO actually purchased the Samba Intellectual Property from Novell back in 1995. But you can't see the purchase agreement, because it's secret.

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  9. Re:SCO against GPL? Not according their website... by curtisk · · Score: 2, Funny
    ....document not found @ 12:01 PM EST

    Nyaaaa-haaa-haaa! *SCO curls mustache between index finger and thumb*

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  10. Re:I don't understand who buys it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Believe it or not, I discovered a family member uses SCO. I was mortified. We're arranging an intervention this weekend.

  11. Re:Nice response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    True, nice dignified response.

    However, as I am not burdened with morals myself, I would like to take this opportunity to tell SCO to kiss my ass.

  12. Re:SCO has no strategy by JoeLinux · · Score: 4, Funny

    Here is Mr. Allison's email address: jra at samba dot org . Email him and offer him and any Samba members a beer if they ever find themselves in your area...I did.

    Hmm...Distributed Beer Reward System. Could be a viable form of payment. I'd code for it. :)

  13. More satisfying response by OneIsNotPrime · · Score: 5, Funny

    Over the past few months, the SCO (Santa Cruz Operation) Corporation (formerly Caldera International, Inc. a Linux distribution vendor) has been complaining about violations of its Copyright works by the Linux kernel code.

    Recently, Darl McBride, the Chief Executive Officer of SCO has been making pejorative statements regarding the license used by the Linux kernel, the GNU GPL. In a keynote speech he recently said :

    "At the end of the day, the GPL is not about making software free; it's about destroying value."

    In light of this it is the depths of hypocrisy that at the same event SCO also announced the incorporation of the Samba3 release into their latest OpenServer product. Samba is an Open Source/Free Software project that allows Linux and UNIX servers to interoperate with Microsoft Windows clients. The reason for this is clear; Samba3 allows Linux and UNIX servers to replace Microsoft Windows NT Domain Controllers and will add great value to any Operating System which includes it. However, Samba is also developed and distributed under the GNU GPL license, in exactly the same manner as the Linux kernel code that SCO has been criticizing for its lack of care in ownership attribution.

    We observe that SCO is both attacking the GPL on the one hand and benefiting from the GPL on the other hand. SCO can't have it both ways. SCO has a clear choice: either pledge not to use any Open Source/Free Software in any of their products, or actively participate in the Open Source/Free Software movement and reap the benefits. For SCO to continue to use Open Source/Free Software while attacking others for using it is the epitome of hypocrisy.

    Because of this, we believe not only that SCO must be prevented from the use of Samba software, but that team Samba must take up arms and engage in formal combat against SCO. We are already busy assembling hand picked teams of elite mercenaries, varying in expertise from explosives and combat strategy to torture methodology. We will be initiating our attacks at an undisclosed time within the next 96 hours, and will accept no terms of surrender except hari kari from every member of SCO, and their extended families/anyone they've breathed on in the last six months.

    Strictly bring it,

    Jeremy Allison,
    Marc Kaplan,
    Andrew Bartlett,
    Christopher R. Hertel,
    Jerry Carter,
    Jean Francois Micouleau,
    Paul Green,
    Rafal Szczesniak.

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  14. NEW ACRONYM ALERT! by curtisk · · Score: 4, Funny
    If you *read* the Gnu GPL, not that anybody does, it doesn't say that you must distribute source with the binaries. But that you must provide a means whereby the user can request the source code from you, and that you will give the source when requested.

    In light of your comment, I agree that many don't actually read the licenses, but feel they have a "well-enough" understanding of what it/they mean, thusly a new acronym.......*drum roll*

    RTFL = Read the Fucking License

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    1. Re:NEW ACRONYM ALERT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      IASDFTWWNAAFT?

  15. Re:SCO has no strategy by Demodian · · Score: 5, Funny

    SCO could even charge you for the price of a medium

    So that is why they are using Miss Cleo for $699 a pop! And she comes with a CD too!

  16. Re:SCO has no strategy by Peyna · · Score: 2, Funny

    I always found the "Sue the crap out of the competition" corporate strategy to be very successful. Look at everyone that is using it lately.

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  17. New icon, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Attn: Slashdot Overlords

    Can I please suggest a new logo for the upcoming 10^6 SCO news stories. I understand that you do have that caldera type logo, but I think it should be considered deprecated.

    How about that justice chick being weighed right down with cash in that left hand scale, and a bunch of hot air (transparent, please), in the other. It would be cool to have her peeking through that blindfold thingy down at the money too! Oh...and maybe she can be sitting on that caldera globe, with her legs spread just a little bit.

    Do I get the shirt now?

  18. Proof MS not behind this by bstadil · · Score: 2, Funny
    This morning I decided to pay SCO to avoid the Wrath of Darl TM, and I went to get money at my local ATM.

    Guess what happened!

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  19. Yes but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's fine that you don't drink bear (I don't either).

    But seeing that Samba is about Windows compatibility, do you drink WINE?

    *duck*

  20. New version of GPL called for by maroberts · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'd like to propose that all GPL projects switch to a new version of the GPL, containing the following extra paragraph.

    GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
    Version 2.1, January 200? ..... .....

    11. You may not copy, redistribute or modify this code in any way such that it runs on any form of SCO Unix. The freedoms granted by the GPL are not applicable to SCO systems.

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  21. Re:Samba team should... by matt-fu · · Score: 2, Funny
    And then the Samba team wins... then what? ;-)

    4) Profit!