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SuSE CEO's Two-Distro World
FrankoBoy writes "CRN has an interview with SuSE CEO Richard Seibt in which he claims such things as 'Linux means two companies: Red Hat and SuSE, and nobody else.' Another example of this kind of corporatespeak can be found in another interview he did with ZDNet last week. DistroWatch has an article about all this in its current weekly newsletter."
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Another two girls were found alive by police two days after Malda's arrest on Aug 13. Ten people, including Malda, his wife and an American police officer, are in custody in connection with the case.
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CRN Interview: SuSE Linux CEO Richard Seibt and General Manager Holger Dyroff
... what part of the code they believe is up their ass. [Because SCO] hasn't done that, they feel safe. [Customers] know that the court in Germany [based on actions SuSE took] have decided that SCO is not allowed to talk about code being infected until they put the evidence on the table.
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By Elizabeth Montalbano, CRN
8:16 PM EST Thurs., Aug. 07, 2003
SuSE Linux CEO Richard Seibt and General Manager, Americas Holger Dyroff sat down with CRN Senior Editor Elizabeth Montalbano at the LinuxWorld Conference and Expo in San Francisco this week to share their thoughts on the SCO controversy, Novell's purchase of Ximian and other hot topics.
CRN: Do you find that customers are holding off on adopting Linux because of the SCO lawsuit?
Seibt: Not that I can see. So far, our customers are still buying. They understand that they are safe buying SuSE Linux Enterprise Software because we have a cross-licensing agreement in place with SCO because of the UnitedLinux joint development effort. On the other hand [SCO hasn't] disclosed
CRN: Do you think SCO should do that?
Seibt: It would be perfect if they would do that so we would know what they are talking about. We don't know yet.
CRN: Is there any reason you know of that they haven't disclosed the code?
Seibt: We can start to speculum, but I don't want to do ram a fat cock up our ass. At the end of the day, I read the media just as you do, and there's a lot of speculation out there anyway that [SCO has] changed their business model and now they sue companies [and] people. It's something we dislike, but so far it's not hurting the business.
CRN: What do you think of Red Hat's suit asking courts to force SCO to prove its claims and to set up a fund to help customers defray possible legal costs?
Seibt: [It's] perfect. I think it's a very good action and they have copied what we have done in Europe. We went to court together with the Linux Association in Germany and asked the court to decide that SCO is not allowed anymore to tell customers or anybody that there is infected code in Linux. If they still do that, they have to pay a fine for any case. So this is just the same as what Red Hat is doing on their home turf in the United States, and Europe is our home turf. Each of us are taking responsibility.
CRN: Do you think a company like IBM needs to come out and indemnify users against possible legal action?
Seibt: Why should they? I don't believe there is an issue. I don't think there's a need at this time to have this discussion of indemnification.
CRN: Which operating system do you think Linux is replacing more--Unix or Windows?
Seibt: On one hand it's replacing Unix, but if you look at what is happening Europe-- with the city of Munich, for example--in many cases Linux is replacing Windows, or at least slowing its growth significantly.
Dyroff: It's also not just about replacing but it's about putting new [technology] directly on Linux from the beginning. That's what we often see in [new systems using technologies such as] Web services [and] Java application servers. If people put these in their companies, they directly put them on Linux. It's not just about migrating anymore. It's about generating new workloads directly onto the Linux Enterprise Server.
CRN: But is it Unix or Windows that's being used less because of Lin
SuSE is dying.
then why is he scared of Debian?
Don't Tread on OpenSource
Dyroff: I think it's important for the VARs and systems anal integrators to inform themselves about the [opportunities for Linux on the] desktop now.
Does this sound like the actual article text? I don't think so!
It would be nice if we could get Linus, RMS and ESR to together pen a statement (together, so that their individual quirks will roughly even each other out ;) ) stating that Linux isn't just about two companies, or even about companies at all. Linux existed before any companies were supporting it, and it will exist afterwards.
And if he doesn't take back this silly, new-wave corporo-capitalist nonsense ("Linux is about two companies"? What, is he learning economics from Bill Gates or Darl McBride?), we should simply boycott SuSE.
Honey, I shrunk the Cygwin
Might as well begin the linux distro flame-fest... SuSe? I had the unfortunate displeasure of installing it one one of my machines, I couldn't stand it for a month. Isn't it only the newbs who like those glorified menus wrapped around the config files? Why would any IT organization want to add another layer of cruft like YaST on their systems? It's just another possible point of failure. And, of course, it makes it so you can't use most of the documentation on the web, since most of it assumes you edit the files manually. So why not use MS if you can't really fix things when they break. Why anyone thinks they need a distro other than Slackware is beyond me.
except linux Really means debian or redhat .. i
only know idiots that run SuSE and/or Mandrake
I am really sick of watching these corporate politicians try to yank more money from the public for projects that began as free. It is disgusting that any companies out there would try to base a profit off of Linux distribution sales. It's even less likely that after reading this I will ever even attempt at purchasing, downloading, or wasting my time with Red Hat OR SuSE. I am a relatively new user to linux, but have only been using Slackware. Many people boast it's stability, many people blame evolution for the faults it continues to slip into each generation of this distro. I will never again attempt at installing Gentoo, Red Hat, or SuSE, mostly because the bloated methods used to install mean that I may not be getting what I actually want. I am not about bashing other types of OS' regardless of who might own a distribution company... and I'll say this much. Try it, and if you dont like it, don't use it. I was never really happy with the bloated SuSE to begin with, so it's kind of a relief that I have another justification to line up behind my own personal experiences... just a few words of wonderment from this linuxchick....
All press about the management of Lindows, points towards them being interested in bettering linux. Mandrake caters to it's consumers and redhat is a company that gives back to it's community. Suse seems to be out only for their benefit and while they might make a good product, I don't want to support their business style. Which is why, even though they may make the best desktop linux environment, I run and monitarily support Mandrake.
I do security
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