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Seven Spam Filters Compared

Goo.cc writes "Those wondering how their spam filtering software performs in comparison to other's may want to read this article on Freshmeat, where Sam Holden performs comparative testing of various popular e-mail filters. The filters tested includes Bayesian Mail Filter, Bogofilter, dbacl, Quick Spam Filter, SpamAssassin, SpamProbe, and SPASTIC."

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  1. Unadvertised by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sounds great, but until I hear about software products like these in my morning mailbox, I don't really trust that they're any good.

  2. Re:Link Please by Neophytus · · Score: 3, Informative
  3. Re:Link Please by woodhouse · · Score: 2, Informative
  4. The Link. by AndyFewt · · Score: 2, Informative
  5. Good testing, but not enough samples by TexTex · · Score: 4, Informative

    The author makes a good attempt at comparing these products, but I don't think his samples are indepth enough to come up with real-world results.

    For Bayes testing, he used 68 spam and 68 ham messages. Spamassassin for one won't even activate bayes until it's learned from 200 messages; it's not uncommon for those who regularly deal with spam management on the server side to use 5000-10,000 message corpuses to test new rule additions and to train spam.

    The low number might have a slight effect if most of your mail contains similar characteristics, but I'd much rather have seen bigger numbers of samples.

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    1. Re:Good testing, but not enough samples by cly · · Score: 5, Informative

      I guess you wrote this after reading the first two experiments.

      In the third he used 1200.

      Nice way to jump the gun.

    2. Re:Good testing, but not enough samples by Sanctuary · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They didn't train Spamassassin to use the bayes filter once during the test, and they used it with out all the other scoring tools for Spamassassin. This review really didn't completely test Spamassassin's full potential.

    3. Re:Good testing, but not enough samples by arth1 · · Score: 4, Informative
      I guess you wrote this after reading the first two experiments.

      In the third he used 1200.


      1273, out of which 1073 were spam. That leaves 200 non-spam messages, which isn't enough for Spamassassin's bayesian filtering to kick in, even if all messages were to be classifed as ham or spam, and not just let through.

      To quote sa-learn's man page:
      Another thing to be aware of, is that typically you should
      aim to train with at least 1000 messages of spam, and 1000
      ham messages, if possible. More is better, but anything
      over about 5000 messages does not improve accuracy signif­
      icantly in our tests.
      The low number of emails, combined with no apparent manual reading on part of the author, makes me want to disregard this whole survey as pure drivel.

      Regards,
      --
      *Art
    4. Re:Good testing, but not enough samples by skookum · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Agreed. The author made up the artificial constraint that "no program is allowed to contact the network" which means that SpamAssassin wasn't able to check the DNS blacklists for things like exploited open proxies/relays in the Received chain, or to check with distributed signiture services like RAZOR/DCC, etc.

      If you're not going to let the program use its full capabilities, why test it?

      Analogously, what kind of hardware review site would do a review along the lines of "This motherboard supports this extra feature that will improve CPU speed noticeably, but we're going to disable it for our tests (even though most of you would want to use it.)"

    5. Re:Good testing, but not enough samples by hamster+foo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Also, SpamAssassin has a Bayesian classifier built in, but it wasn't used in these tests, since having five was enough."

      While I'm sure the recommendations set forth in Spam Assassin's man page are probably a good idea for all Bayesian training sets, he wasn't using the Bayesian filtering included in Spam Assassin, so you can't really fault him for not reading a section of the man page for a feature he was choosing to leave out.

      It would have been nice to see him turn on Spam Assassin's Bayesian filtering at least in some of the tests. I don't think test results with a feature I would imagine the vast majority of users would used turned off is a very good comparison of the different packages abilities.

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      - b
    6. Re:Good testing, but not enough samples by Fred+Ferrigno · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Seems to me like it isn't an artificial constraint, but merely a practical one. It sounds like he scripted the programs to run through his data all at once, so querying the online resources a thousand times an hour would not be feasible. The Bayesian filters were at a similar disadvantage because of the automated testing: normally, each false negative gets added to the spam corpus, which would haved improved their accuracy over time.

  6. Obligitory "here's my perfect spam solution" by ceswiedler · · Score: 2, Informative

    IMO, the best way to go with spam is to combine a heuristic filter with a text/baysian filter, in my case SpamAssassin and SpamProbe. I run them both, and it does a noticably better job than either running alone.

    SpamProbe can be fooled by clever spammers who insert lots of common words in non-visible html. A Baysian filter can't really catch that, but a heuristic filter can be written to notice the pattern.

    Also, set up your Baysian filter to re-learn regularly from your spam folder. SpamProbe adds a unique ID to each message, so it won't process a message twice. Therefore, you can just manually move any false negative spams into the folder, and they'll be learned from.

  7. Mozilla? by HBI · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have seen at least two of these comparisons and no one seems to want to roll Mozilla's spam filter into the mix and compare it. Therefore, the comparisons are kind of useless to me. I am guessing I am not the only person using Moz either, for specifically this reason (ease of use for Bayesian filtering).

    What's up with that? I know it's not a proxy, so the methodology is different than most of the products in the comparison. I'm very interested in how well the filter works however, compared to these other products.

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    1. Re:Mozilla? by bobintetley · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sensible people filter their email at the server and try to waste as little bandwidth as possible.

      Mozilla is no good for this, as you have to download the mail via POP3/IMAP to filter it.

      Don't get me wrong - Moz' spam filter is good at the user level, but you really would want to try and ditch the spam before then (particularly if you run a server for a number of users).

    2. Re:Mozilla? by thinkninja · · Score: 2, Informative

      Very true. I downloaded 1600 messages with Thunderbird today (backlog) and only about 30 weren't spam. That's a huge waste of bandwidth.

      --
      "The number of Unix installations has grown to ten, with more expected." (Unix Programmer's Manual, 2nd ed.; june 1972)
    3. Re:Mozilla? by wilfie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The loss of bandwidth is not the main cost of spam these days.Certainly not internal bandwidth between our mail server and desktops. The excellent features of doing it on my desktop are that the filter is learning about what _I_ consider to be spam and ham, and that I have the stuff that's classified as spam to hand and can check it through once in a while. So far for me it's only thrown false positives when colleagues have sent stuff that was spammy in content. I have a presentiment that our CEO's habit of writing in red HTML (full of ff0000) will cause a false hit one day.

    4. Re:Mozilla? by hdw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Most people can't filter their email at the server, since most people doesn't have access to a server to filter at.

      So the majority has to filter locally, either in the client or with a local pop/imap proxy (like PopFile).

      // hdw

      --
      Executive Pope (small) Kallisti Engineering
    5. Re:Mozilla? by Blain · · Score: 2, Informative

      I have been using POPFile for months now, with a fairly complex setup, one of the things I like about POPFile versus the others I've seen (which are two or three bucket systems). It's classifying more than 99% accurately every month for the past three or four months (I reset my statistics around the first of every month) and has never been less than 95% accurate in a month (including its training month). For an idea of what my loads and buckets are like, this list of my buckets and the number of messages classified into them since the first of the month will help:

      • ads -- 25 (0.58%)
      • bounces -- 2 (0.04%)
      • business -- 18 (0.42%)
      • family -- 10 (0.23%)
      • forwards -- 8 (0.18%)
      • list -- 3,242 (75.72%)
      • personal -- 68 (1.58%)
      • politics -- 11 (0.25%)
      • pornspam -- 136 (3.17%)
      • scams -- 24 (0.56%)
      • spam -- 678 (15.83%)
      • webgenerated -- 57 (1.33%)
      • website -- 2 (0.04%)

      I've been using TB for a couple months now, and very much like it. I've used the built-in junk filtering since I first got it, and have found that it is only getting about 1/3 to 1/2 of the things already catagorized for my spam buckets, with a higher rate of false-positives than POPFile. I would like to see something more reliable, and hope updating the algorithm will help.

      As complicated as my buckets may look, this system works very well for me -- with the addition of a "misc" folder that anything not classified goes into, and some filters based on the X-Classified line, almost nothing that gets into my inbox is anything other than personal email.

  8. OT: Disturbing? by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Does anyone find it disturbing that --

    a. Spam Filter software company is now a "viable business."
    b. Spam Filer is needed AT ALL?

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  9. Flawed Tests by Plix · · Score: 3, Informative

    As was noted earlier, the set of messages given to the filters for learning was terribly small. Furthermore, SpamAssassin wasn't tested in a way useful to most as the tests in this article didn't take into account SA's Bayesian filter nor it's network-based tests (Razor, etc).

  10. Spamassassin and Bayes? by menscher · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Spamassassin > v2.50 supports Bayes, right? But TFA seems to imply that it's just heuristic. I'd be interested in seeing how spamassassin improves with a good training set.

    Also, what's with keeping the spam threshhold score secret?

    1. Re:Spamassassin and Bayes? by numbski · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yup. I use it all the time. Save up spam and ham in seperate folders. Then do this:

      sa-learn --spam --mbox ~/mail/myspamfolder
      sa-learn --ham --mbox ~/mail/myhamfolder

      As I get more spam, I set it aside into a folder, and in tcsh I have this alias set:

      alias spamadd 'sa-learn --spam --mbox ~/mail/got-through && rm ~/mail/got-through && touch ~/mail/got-through'

      --

      Karma: Chameleon (mostly due to the fact that you come and go).

    2. Re:Spamassassin and Bayes? by arth1 · · Score: 2, Informative
      As I get more spam, I set it aside into a folder, and in tcsh I have this alias set:

      alias spamadd 'sa-learn --spam --mbox ~/mail/got-through && rm ~/mail/got-through && touch ~/mail/got-through'


      In addition to the above, it might be smart to create three files called "ham", "spam" and "forget":
      #!/bin/sh
      # ham
      /usr/bin/sa-learn --ham --no-rebuild --single

      #!/bin/sh
      # spam
      /usr/bin/sa-learn --spam --no-rebuild --single

      #!/bin/sh
      # forget
      /usr/bin/sa-learn --forget --single
      Complement with a cron job that runs sa-learn --rebuild every night.

      Then, if you read your mail on the same box, and the headers doesn't say it was auto-learned, simply pipe the email to either ham or spam. If it was wrongly auto-learned as spam, pipe it to forget. If using pine, it's really easy:
      | ham

      Of course, if you use razor or other online services that lets you report spam, you might want to pipe some of the spam mails that weren't recognized to "spamassassin -r".

      Regards,
      --
      *Art
  11. Active Spam Killer by Admiral+Llama · · Score: 2, Informative

    How the heck could Active Spam Killer be left out? I used to get about 150 spams a day and now I get ZERO. No false positives, no false negatives.
    It is an autoresponder that checks the sender against a whitelist and a blacklist. If a new e-mail is in neither, then it bounces back an e-mail asking for a confirmation that the sender is a human. Simple!

    1. Re:Active Spam Killer by Admiral+Llama · · Score: 2, Insightful

      1. If you thought it was worthwhile to send me an e-mail in the first place, then you'll probably click the respond button for the bounce message. If not, then I probably don't want to hear from you anyway.

      2. If someone spoofs an e-mail to me from a spam victim, the spam victim will get an e-mail asking them to prove they're real. Fat chance of them ever doing that. Who knows? Maybe the spam victim will be so impressed with the sheer brutality of Active Spam Killer, they'll try it to.

  12. SpamAssasin had Bayesnian turned off?! by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I noticed immediately that the author turned off SpamAssasin's Bayesnian filter, claiming "it already has 5 points, that's enough". WTF does that mean? The whole point of SpamAssasin is to do a lot of tests, and add the scores together- and then set the threshold you want(something he also doesn't modify- I changed my threshold after looking at the scores spams were getting and such.)

    I trained SA's bayesnian filter off of about 3 years of spam and legitimate email sent directly to me. SA as a whole is working nearly flawlessly- the only messages it has tagged as spam were those from users with improperly configured email clients AND suspicious email addresses AND using only HTML. Ie, a message that would damn well look like spam. However, like I said, I lowered SA's threshold by 2 points because I was having too many false positives(that was before I had properly trained the Bayesnian filter, so perhaps I'll kick it up a point now.)

    One important note- when you get a falsely classified message, it's REALLY important to tell Spamassasin's bayesnian filter about it. It's as easy as cut+paste if you do sa-learn --spam/--ham --single, hit enter, paste the message, hit control D. Done!

    1. Re:SpamAssasin had Bayesnian turned off?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      However, like I said, I lowered SA's threshold by 2 points because I was having too many false positives(that was before I had properly trained the Bayesnian filter, so perhaps I'll kick it up a point now.)

      I use SpamAssassin with the flag threshold set at 5, the default. I have procmail send any message from 5-10 into a spam mailbox which I clean out occasionally, and messages at 10+ straight to /dev/null (after a couple of months of also keeping those in the spam mailbox).

      Having a properly trained Bayes database makes a huge difference, not just for flagging spam but for not flagging mail. This is because messages which get a low Bayes probability receive a negative score (from the Bayes test, which offsets any heuristic tests that the message may happen to trip). I now find that nearly all legitimate mail comes in below zero, and nearly all spam comes in above 15. I have never once seen a false positive - either in my testing period, or since I started trashing spam (I occasionally look through the procmail log just to make sure). I see a false negative once every couple of weeks, which is just fine (it's remarkable how inoffensive spam becomes when it's an occasional thing ;).

      So yes, now that you've trained it, you should be able to move the threshold again (I assume by "lowered" you actually mean you raised it, ie. had it flag messages as spam only when they scored 7.0 or higher).

  13. Re:Sad by Moth7 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe the site is too valuable to DoS?

  14. What? No PopFile? by MrEnigma · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They started off by quoting John-Graham Cumming, et they didn't include his brainchild PopFile.

    Check it out Here.

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  15. What About PopFile by MBCook · · Score: 4, Informative

    What about PopFile? I've tried SpamAssassin and a few others, and I like PopFile the best. After a little training it's EXTREEMLY accurate. It survived the deluge of mail I've gotten in the last few days (due to virii) with flying colors.

    According it it's internal statistics, it has classified 2821 messages as of the time I type this. It has made only 95 errors (often close calls, so I don't blame it). That puts it at an accuracy of 96.63%. For the record, of the e-mail I've gotten, it's 308 messages of ham, 2513 spam.

    I have only been using PopFile since June 7th of this year, but it's working fantastic. The only thing I've used that's this good was Cloudmark's SpamNet, who stabbed the community in the back, so I switched to something else. I'm glad I've found PopFile, and I suggest you try it too if you're looking for something good.

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    1. Re:What About PopFile by jedrek · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I use PopFile as well and am equally satisfied. I make sure to reclassify all false negatives and positivies. Accuracy is at 97.65%, I've gotten 2,802 spams for 5,432 mails I've gotten since I installed it.

      When me and my friend had a site featured on Yahoo, USA Today, NYT, etc. the spam just went THROUGH THE ROOF. But, thanks to PopFile I didn't have to see any of it.

  16. PSAM by po8 · · Score: 4, Informative

    See our PSAM project site for a refereed paper evaluating several machine learning spam filtering techniques (although not specific filters). This site also contains large standardized corpora for evaluation. The paper contains a number of tips on evaluating ML spam filters.

    The /.-referenced article has some good ideas about evaluation. I particularly liked the explicit discussion of the false positives. The recommendations at the end are excellent. On the other hand, the evaluation isn't across a broad or obviously representative corpus, many of the tests are a bit odd, the ROC tradeoffs are not discussed. In particular, the evaluation set for the tests did not include enough ham to be able to accurately estimate the false positive rate: consider what would happen to the precision estimates if 0.5 were added to each of the numbers in the false positive table.

    Overall, though, this was an interesting evaluation, and I'm glad that the author published it.

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    Please visit www.spamfilters2enlarge.com

    Act before midnight and get a $30 discount.

  18. WRONG. by imsabbel · · Score: 5, Informative

    Of couse your baysian filter will QUICKLY learn that html tags that create invisible text are VERY common in spam and nowhere else-> problem solved
    Dont forget that the filter sees more than the eye...

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  19. Web interface for spamprobe by bigberk · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you decide to try out spamprobe or another bayesian filter, try this web interface which lets you easily reclassify mail, even those marked as spam. I found that "training" the bayesian filters was the hardest part; this definitely simplifies the process.

  20. Off topic but... by CGP314 · · Score: 2, Informative

    It wasn't mentioned in the article, but I really must plug popfile. It filters out my spam yes, but it is also a general mail categorizer. It sorts ten yahoo groups for me, personal, work, and school related emails. I know you think you could do this with rules for the emails, but for example, I get several hundred emails a day from the Harry Potter for Grownups List. Popfile can sort them into 'probably interesting' and 'probably not' for me. Very nice.

  21. C/R and Bayesian filtering by pongo000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    An interesting thread here about how TMDA, a C/R filter, used in conjunction with SpamAssassin, can provide the best of both worlds. While TMDA is by itself effective, there seem to be some humanistic issues involving the assumption that all e-mailers are spammers unless they prove otherwise. The thread explains how Bayesian filtering can be improved by using a decent C/R filter like TMDA without alienating people that send legitimate e-mail.

    Personally, I figure anyone thin-skinned enough to be insulted by my C/R filter probably isn't worth talking to anyways, but I digress...

  22. Stop spam the low-tech way. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 2, Insightful


    The quickest way to stop spam in the U.S. would be to have a respected person such as the Surgeon General of the United States say that

    1) There is no way to increase the size of your body parts,

    2) The cheap Viagra is not Viagra,

    3) and so on.

    We can help by telling everyone we know not to buy anything from spam. Next time you are at a party or family gathering, make that point.

    Spam would disappear if there were no buyers. We need to make it culturally unacceptable to buy anything that is advertised through spam.

    1. Re:Stop spam the low-tech way. by hankwang · · Score: 3, Funny
      > The quickest way to stop spam [...] say that [...] 1) There is no way to increase the size of your body parts, 2) The cheap Viagra is not Viagra,

      Unfortunately, you risk that people just remember "cheap viagra" and "increase the size", with the opposite effect as a result.

      In Netherlands, there is or may was an urban legend that a big tea brand will donate a wheelchair to whoever gathers one million tea bag labels of that brand. Presumably, the tea brand tried informing the world through advertisements in the newspapers, but that turned out to only increase the number people requesting more information.

  23. A message from a spammer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    As a professional sender of UCE, I just want to tell you slashdotters to keep on playing with your spam fileters. As long as you use spam filters on your e-mail, I can continue to reach my real intended targets, those non-slashdotters who do not know better and will buy my products or click through to my client's websites. You filters really help cut down on the complaints to the internet service providers I do business with, and as long as not too many complaints come in their marketing people assure me we can do business. Of course, I still waste your bandwidth and mailbox capacity, but you no longer complain to uce@ftc.gov, my access providers, or anyone else who might cause me problems. My yahoo and hotmail and other accounts for replies are lasting much longer before getting shut down because someone complained to these service providers. And my clients are even reporting that they can start mailing out 800 numbers like 1-800-901-3719 again and they will not have you damn spammers set up their modems to keep autodialing them, since you spend your own time and effort to filter the e-mail and only clueless users who might actually call see the numbers.

    Please don't bother your Congressmen or Senators proposing legialation that might not work 100%. Just keep on filtering the spam I send you, I know you would have never bought from me anyway. That you can filter ligitimizes my business and my waste of your bandwidth.

    P.S. To be sure of not getting a false positive , be sure to send all filtered mail to a special folder. Waste your storage space storing the mail until you manually go through every piece to be sure you didn't accidentally filter something important. Of course, this will take exactly as much effort as it would have to just check the e-mail when it first came in, not to mention the extra effort spent in setting up the filters and the extra space for storing your incoming spam folder, but what the heck. You geeks enjoy wasting time this way, and I certainly appreciate it. It makes the work of all us spammers much easier.

    1. Re:A message from a spammer by jpetts · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This might be considered interesting, but I think it is really just a troll.

      However, one interesting point that trollboy makes, is that the 1-800 numbers end up in the spam, and we don't see them: why not modify the filter so it automagically pulls out all such numbers from the spam, so that they can be easily on hand for those people who want to set up autodialers? In a way this is poetic justice, being analogous to the way the scumbag spammers harvest email addresses from web pages. So yet again, the classification allows an easy way to harvest spam 1-800 numbers from genuine ones.

      Thanks for the suggestion, spammer or troll, whatever you are!!

      PS Googled for the 1-800 number the idiot mentioned in his email, but nothing came up. Did anybody dial it? I'm nowhere near a public telephone at the moment. I'll try when I get back to civilisation if nobody else has already done it...

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      Call me old fashioned, but I like a dump to be as memorable as it is devastating - Bender
    2. Re:A message from a spammer by mce · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There's more to the time-spent-on-spam comparison than what you wrote. If you filter all the spam and quickly check it once a day or once a week, you only look at it whenever you "want" to: i.e. probably during a dead moment inbetween meetings or some such. But if you let it get into your inbox, whatever you're doing may needlessly get interrupted every so many minutes/hours. After all, each e-mail that reaches your inbox might (for instance) be that one important reply you're waiting for and have to process asap...

  24. Mozillas Filters + SA = Kick ass solution! by BrookHarty · · Score: 3, Informative
    Dont know why we didnt see Mozilla's filters (Maybe thats covered under Bayesain filters?)

    I'm using the standalone Thunderbird and it catchs everything that passes by Spamassassin. Spam is marked but never deleted, so I can go back and check. Some spam programs will delete email, which could delete a good email, unacceptable.

    Basically, I'm using a mandrake linux box, imap, procmail, fetchmail and spamassassin. Easy, and I can send/receive email from my linux box, and port 25 is blocked from the Net so nobody can use me as a bouncer.

    Only problem I had was, there was no complete document to set this up, I had to piece each part together.

    So for anyone who wants to know, heres the quick steps.

    1. I'm using mandrake, but had to update SA for the sa-learn utils. (Gotta train SpamAssassin)
    2. Setup fetchmail in your personal account.
    3. Setup .procmailrc in your home dir

    DROPPRIVS=YES
    VERBOSE=ON
    LOGFILE=/home/useracc ount/procmail.log

    :0fw

    | /usr/bin/spamc
    4. Setup your user_prefs in your local directory for SA. (mine, but im no SA expert, but it works)
    required_hits 5
    rewrite_subject 0
    use_terse_report 1
    report_safe 1
    use_bayes 1
    auto_learn 1
    ok_locales en
    use_pyzor 1
    pyzor_max 9
    pyzor_add_header 1
    use_razor2 1
    always_add_headers 1
    always_add_report 1
    spam_level_stars 1
    pyzor_add_header 1
    skip_rbl_checks 0
    #timelog_path /home/useraccount/.spamassassin/timelog

    5. As root make sure Imap,Spamassassin is running.
    6. Load Thunderbird, use Imap, use filters on x-headers.

  25. SpamBayes works really well for Outlook. by RNLockwood · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I use SpamBayes (free) with Outlook on my W2K machine. I trained it with over 400 SPAM and over 1000 non-SPAM emails. I get about 45 SPAM each day and my ISP, attglobal, filters out about 40 of them. The SPAM that gets to my mailbox are the ones that pass through the attglobal filter and that filter has NEVER given me a false positive for more than 2000 SPAM. Those SPAM are put in special folder on the server for inspection but I now just delete them en-mass every week or so.

    That means that SpamBayes is filtering only the hardest emails to classify and so far it has only given me one false positive. I got one false negative after training it for the first time. SpamBayes also has a folder for messages that it is not sure of and so far they have all been SPAM. I seldom have to do more than inspect the sender and subject to confirm that they are SPAM.

    Each time a message is automatically moved to the SPAM folder (or moved back to the Incoming folder) the training set is adjusted for that email so I don't have to re-train.

    To sum up I'm really impressed by well designed Bayesian filters and this one in particular. I think it's worth while to take the time to build up a corpus of SPAM and "good" messages as I can then evaluate competing filters.

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    Nate
    1. Re:SpamBayes works really well for Outlook. by howhardcanitbetocrea · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Totally agree. I have tried Spam Pal - which was good. Spam Assassin which was OK and have now been using SpamBayes since finding it via another story on /.

      Spambayes is excellent.

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      (International Society for Elimination of Sigs)
    2. Re:SpamBayes works really well for Outlook. by jpetts · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think it's worth while to take the time to build up a corpus of SPAM and "good" messages as I can then evaluate competing filters.

      Anybdoy looking for a can of spam might want to check out the Ling Spam corpus created by Ion Andoutsopoulos, also available here.

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      Call me old fashioned, but I like a dump to be as memorable as it is devastating - Bender
  26. Re:So weird by arcanumas · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I am not sure about getting spam with such an addres ssaf4502@E8Hkl3.biz . I AM certain , however, that i would not receive regular mail.
    You can not put it in a bussiness card, people will always type it wrong. You definately cannot pronounce it over the phone.
    In fact, most would give up on contacting me through e-mail just looking at this monster.

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  27. Re:So weird by frovingslosh · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Don't spend time trying to filter-- get an obscure email adress like saf4502@E8Hkl3.biz

    This is a pretty bogus "fix". It might work if you set up such an account and never use it, but if it's used and gets into a spam database the computers can proprigate this e-mail address just like they can any other. The spam database computers simply don't care if the name is "joe" or "saf4502", they deal with both exactly the same. All you'll really do is make it harder for you to pass along an e-mail address verbally to someone.

    Spammers get these addresses any number of ways. Many are harvested tens of thousands at a time. If you ever use that e-mail address in a usenet news group, for example, it will get harvested. Of course, you can munge it and give instructions in the post for how someone wanting to reply should unmunge it (replace the number in my name with the square root of the number) but realistically few are going to bother to go to extra work to unmunge an e-mail address, so if you made a post to really try to get some information back rather than to just hear yourself talk, that's a big waste.

    Same if you want to post a contact e-mail on your website.

    Businesses you deal with are even less likely to unmunge your e-mail address, and if they do you certainly have no protection that they are not the ones about to sell their mailing list database to a spammer.

    And even if you just keep your e-mail adderess for close personal contacts, one of them may eventually come across what they think is a "cute" electronic greeting card site on the web and give them your address to send some damn picture of a dancing bunny, or use your e-mail address on some site with an "e-mail to a friend" link for a story they think you would be interested in, or even just let their computer get infested with some worm that goes through address books, and your adddress is in some spam database, soon to be in thousands. Having a hard to remember e-mail address is no more protection than having an easy to use one is.

    I even created a dummy e-mail address one time on Mindspring, with a very uncommon name and numbers. Never used it. It started getting spam after a while. Either Mindspring sold the names, or they had a bad security system and some employee sold the names, or they had a really bad security system and someone hacked in and harvested the names.

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  28. massing spam for training purposes. by herrd0kt0r · · Score: 3, Interesting

    since the filters do better after being trained with lots of spam, anyone think of gathering up a huge collection of spam to give to other people? i mean exporting a corpus of spam from outlook, sticking it up for download somewhere, and letting other people import it into a spam folder. then other people could run their filter of choice and train it!

    you could even make it all official-like, and somehow guarantee that the spam that's up for downloading is "official" and "virus-free" and "safe for your computer." you know, do geek stuff like check hashes or whatever it takes to verify that the spam collection is legit. whatever it takes to ensure that someone else hasn't filled it with a ton of virus/trojan/etc. attachments. or whatever. i dunno. you know, somehow guarantee it's safe.

    imagine it! download spambayes, get spambayes to connect to the official spambayes spamcorpus server, and download the latest 2000 spams! instant training.

    anyway. just an idea. mod me down as -1, herrd0kt0r. 8P

    1. Re:massing spam for training purposes. by bobbozzo · · Score: 3, Informative
      YES: http://spamarchive.org/

      Also remember you need to feed nonspams to bayesian filters also.

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  29. Consumer Reports did an article on that too by Stavr0 · · Score: 3, Informative
    Ratings - Spam-blocking software

    SAProxy for Windows (Based on SpamAssassin) got the highest marks.

  30. Five baysian filters were enough by Sits · · Score: 4, Informative
    Here's a quote from the article:
    Also, SpamAssassin has a Bayesian classifier built in, but it wasn't used in these tests, since having five was enough.


    If you reread the slightly ambiguous sentence in context you will realise he meant he had evaluated five baysian filters and felt that was enough. Nothing to do with Spamassassins point system...
  31. Some comments by zaad · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm not disagreeing with the posters that stated that he has low sample size. It might be one of the problems why he doesn't have a higher catch or recall rate.

    The main problem I see with bayesian filters is that they are complicated and nontrivial to set up. I've been playing with Bogofilter for several months. And even with sub 1000 corpuses, I get a very high catch rate (greater than 90-some %, though I don't have exact numbers).

    The method that I've employed is start with a small set of three hundred or so ham and spam corpuses, then to train on error over time. It's a pain in the ass because I still have to continually inspect the results and tweak the databases.

    In addition to that, there are at least a half a dozen parameters that contribute to the success or error rates. So much so that bogofilter actually comes with bogotune to analyze the corpuses to suggest optimal parameters.

    So give the guy a break. I wouldn't say his results are robust enough for an academic publication, but it isn't worthless. It's interesting enough for a read. It's more work than many of us are willing to do.

    Also an interesting read is Comparing Bayes Chain Rule with Fisher's Method for Combining Probabilities.

  32. Re:How about Spam Filter + Authentication? by DavidTC · · Score: 2, Insightful
    So, you're taking a message you suspect might be spam, and sending a message to the 'sender'.

    When, of course, most spam has forged senders.

    Whee, looks like another idiotic pattern I have to bock.

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  33. Interesting article but unsound methodology by Henry+Stern · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sam's article was a very interesting read, but his results need to be taken with a grain of salt.

    To show that one piece of software outperforms another, you need to prove statistical significance. This can be done in two ways:

    The first method is called the pairwise t-test. What you need to do is to run k tests using different training and test data. For each of these tests, you find the accuracy of the classifier (#success/#trials). The, you form the "t-statistic," t = d/sqrt(sigma_d^2 / k), where d is the difference of the means of the two classifiers, sigma_d^2 is the variance of the difference samples and k is the number of samples. Then, you compare your t-statistic to the Student's distribution with k-1 degrees of freedom. Typically, you want a confidence level of 90% or 95% so you find the number of standard deviations away from the mean for the specific t-test (e.g. the 90% statistic 9-degree of freedom t-test is 1.38). If your t-statistic is greater than the number of standard deviations, then the difference between the two classifiers is statistically significant with X% confidence. Read more about this in Witten and Frank's Data Mining book.

    The other method is called Analysis of Variance (ANOVA). I'm not familiar enough with this method to explain it here, but it allows you to choose from a set of experiments which ones really are above the average. Dig around in your statistics books or on the web for more information.

    Sam should have made use of either of these techniques when doing his analysis. Since he only ran one experiment per configuration of his classifier, you can draw no real conclusions from the data presented (it's a Student's distribution with 0-degree of freedom... essentially flat!).

    Since most of us only have a small number of corpora kicking around (maybe even only one!), you can use a method called "cross validation" to give yourself a larger number of data sets than you actually have. When doing a cross validation, you divide your corpus up into k "folds" and then perform k experiments. In each experiment, you set aside one fold of your data for testing and train on the other k-1 folds. Since you're using different test data each time, each experiment can be considered to be different and then you can use a pairwise t-test to prove statistical significance. There are other methods that you can use such as "leave one out" where you have as many folds as you do pieces of training data and "bootstrapping" where you sample your training data with replacement and test with whatever wasn't sampled for training.

    However, cross validation may not be appropriate for incremental learning algorithms if your data is on a timeline (such as e-mail). You can break your corpus up into pieces and do your evaluation on that.

    Proving statistical significance is very easy and allows you to be confident in the conclusions that you make in your publications. It's the scientific method!

    Good luck!

    Henry

  34. Automatic Spam Training by Stinky+Cheese+Man · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I use bogofilter, and it seems to me it would take far too much of my time to manually feed my own spam to it for training purposes. What I do instead is this:

    We have several spamtrap addresses on our sendmail server. They were not intentionally set up as spamtraps, but in looking at my mail logs I noticed that there were many email addresses receiving spam attempts that are not and never were valid addresses on our system. These invalid addresses somehow got into spammers' email databases and they receive nothing but spam.

    So I set up entries in my aliases file to automatically redirect all mail for these accounts to bogofilter's spam database. Here is a sample...

    nikola: "|/usr/local/bin/bogofilter -s "
    cal: "|/usr/local/bin/bogofilter -s "
    bwilson: "|/usr/local/bin/bogofilter -s "
    fayre: "|/usr/local/bin/bogofilter -s "

    (If you are also using sendmails access.db to filter mail based on the source IP address, you may want to set up the spamtrap addresses as "spam friends" so that spam directed to them is not filtered out by your IP address filters.)

    To keep the spam database fresh and to keep it from growing to an excessive size, I use a daily cron job that automatically deletes spam entries older than 30 days...

    # remove records older than 30 days from spamlist.db
    /usr/local/bin/bogoutil -a30 -m /home/bogofilter/spamlist.db

    This gives me an 8 Megabyte spamlist.db with about 14,000 emails in it which is constantly refreshed to keep up with the latest spam trends.

    Maintaining the non-spam database isn't quite as easy. I use bogofilter's -u option on my own incoming email, which tells Bogofilter to update its databases with my incoming mail based on its classification of the message as spam or non-spam. I never get a false positive, but I do occasionally get a false negative which requires me to make a correcting entry in the database.