Apple Switches tcsh for bash
gklinger writes "AppleInsider is reporting that Apple has switched from tcsh to bash in the the latest developer build (7B44) of Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther). There is speculation that the switch was made to appeal to Linux users. Experienced users get pretty religious about their shells so what remains to be seen is how diehard tcsh users will react." I don't know about appealing to Linux users in particular, but I just don't know many people who prefers tcsh these days, on any platform. It seems like everyone is using bash or zsh.
Now if they'd only put a real fucking terminal emulator in there -- I never thought something (other than the Windows console) would actually make me long for basic xterm. For a lot of *nix users, the web browser is about the only thing you don't use the shell for, and the default Mac terminal environment is pretty painful.
Clean up the shell, tell me I've got the option to do all the Apple updates from the command line, and get emacs in the default install. Then Mac OS will finally feel like a real UNIX.
Fact: *csh is dying
also does "ogg vorbis" i predict still more complaining....
This move fits with Apple's focus on usability. To be usable, you have to be pronounceable, and you have to be memorable.
bash: nice, violent, memorable name
tcsh: the city in Belorussia?
Its a no-brainer, really.
I for one welcome our new bourne again overlords.
With their penchant for user friendliness, I'm surprised they didn't choose mudsh
If I seem short sighted, it is because I stand on the shoulders of midgets
That would mean Mac OS X is configurable. Everybody likes to complain about how Apple sets everything up for you. Now the geek *nix guys can say "Damn you apple for making bash my default shell!" You've saved me a step in my configuration!!!
For a moment there, I thought the headline read: Apple Switches THC for hash...
I imagine it will go something along the lines of...
user@mac:~$ tcsh
mac:~>
"It's the same mentality that's behind different Islamic sects hating each other even more than they hate Christians."
Really? How exactly does a default shell in an OS relate to that again?
Plus if bash comes with it and all you have to do is change default shells, what's the big deal?
You'll have that sometimes...
emacs sheemacs, it comes with vi, and that's all that matters
:wq
Anyway, Apple has enough problems with OS X being RAM-hungry, without enticing people to fill 80MB with a text editor.
Agreed, using emacs for a simple text editor is like using MS Office as a simple text editor.. Except MS Office is smaller.
...to the term mac bash-ing.
...or bourne again mac user.
I try to keep shells out of my mac, they can make a real GUI mess.
Really? How exactly does a default shell in an OS relate to that again?
They like to bash each other.