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SCO DOS Harming Innocent Bystanders

An anonymous reader writes "The SCO-IBM-Linux controversy has certainly caused quite a stir. Unfortunately the vigilantes conducting the DOS attacks against SCO are harming innocent by-standers as described in this e-Week story. " Choice conspiracy theory quote: 'Given SCO's behavior recently, it's just as likely that they're attacking themselves in their continued attempt to pump up their stock price'

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  1. Still? by devphaeton · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I thought ESR asked the DoSer(s) to kindly stop DoSing, and they did.

    Who's DoSing now?
    www.sco.com seems to work for me.

    Are we sure that Darl's not making shit up to put on the "we is poor, oppressed SCO being singled out and picked on..." face?

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  2. DOS? Perhaps not. by Picass0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    http://news.netcraft.com/

    The SCO site has been up during business hours in Utah, but has since failed again. Many news sites carried the story that Eric Raymond had spoken to agroup responsible for a Distributed Denial of Service attack on the www.sco.com site and that they agreed to stop. However it appears that this may have been a hoax, or they subsequently changed their minds, or another person decided to continue the attack, or that the timeout on the attack has not yet been reached.

    In a similar situation 10 days ago Microsoft chose to deploy Akamai's caching service, which has successfully averted any outages.

    Akamai would be more dependable at warding off Distributed Denial of Service attacks than favours from Eric Raymond, but concievably SCO may have difficulty swallowing its pride and buying a service that uses tens of thousands of Linux servers, for which Akamai presumably has not purchased a SCO licence.

  3. Economics by luzrek · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I think that if I were and ISP, and SCO was continually being hammered by denial of service attacks, I would kick them off my servers. If I were a customer of said ISP, or shared the same chunks of cable, I would look for a different way to get service.

    Not that I want to endorce vigialantism, but DOS attacks on SCO and its partners could be used to stop other corporations from doing business with them. Perhaps that is the DOS attackers' goal. However, I do not think that the DOS attacks are productive to the goal of getting rid of SCO's attacks on Linux.

    IMO, a much better strategy would be for everyone using Linux to start buying SCO stock, and then, as a stock holder action, vote all of SCO's patents and copyrights into the public domain (and then disolve the company).

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  4. Eh? by MrKinkade · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Since when was there conclusive proof that SCO were actually being hit by DoS/DDoS?

    I remember reading elsewhere that it's entirely possible that they've just taken down there site of their own accord.

  5. Net packet loss by pknut · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've noticed that the net seems to have been particularly slow recently. Checking on Xaffire Inc.'s Internet Average it's obvious that there are a few problems. Could this be a combination of the various DDoS's occuring at the moment and the recent worms?

  6. Re:SCO owns DOS too? by gl4ss · · Score: 3, Interesting

    sorry but http://www.caldera.com/company/drdos.html
    says: "EMBEDDED LINUX MOVED TO TOP PRIORITY AT LINEO, INC., FORMERLY KNOWN AS CALDERA THIN CLIENTS, INC.

    Lineo's Embedded Linux, Based on Caldera Systems' OpenLinux, is Natural Evolution for Companies With Years of Success in Both Linux and Embedded DOS"

    ah well couldn't find much more under 1 minute.

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  7. Re:Who takes the fall? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    when the FBI comes calling, how far up the tree would the IT person point when he was arrested?

    And how quickly would SCO trot out "most computer crime is perpetrated by insiders" and make him a scapegoat?

  8. Not Exactly Innocent... by yoyoboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The SCO's hosting facility (formerly known as Center7, later spun off as via west) is owned and operated by the Canopy Group. So if the attack is effecting the hosting company, then it is causing harm to SCO indirectly. CenterShift should choose a hosting company that isn't owned by SCO's parent company. If you click on the canopy group link you will see a few other choice companies you might want to choose NOT to do business with: Linux Networx, shame on you - But TrollTech, on the same page as SCO??? All you KDE guys out there might want to think about switching to Gnome, otherwise you are giving a SCO your support.

  9. Sheesh by xihr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Are people really naive enough to think that DOS attacks don't almost always harm innocent bystanders?

  10. www.darlmcbride.com also fine by kjj · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This site seems to be working fine as well.

  11. Found on the SCOX yahoo msg board by earthforce_1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    IANAL, and this is slightly off topic, (mod me down if you must, but it is interesting SCO related material I haven't seen here) but I found this little gem, which could could spike SCO's guns even if they won:

    >>For instance, did you know that, because SCO filed its initial Complaint before it registered its copyright, it's therefore limited by statute to recovering merely $150,000 for any infringements? There are several such Aha! moments awaiting an assiduous reader of this analysis.

    Anybody know if this is true?

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  12. serotonergic vs. dopaminergic fuckedupedness by rhombic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Have you seen Goodman's paper from last year?
    "The serotonergic system and mysticism: could LSD and the nondrug-induced mystical experience share common neural mechanisms?" J Psychoactive Drugs. 2002 Jul-Sep;34(3):263-72.

    A bit wacky, but a good read if you're into behavioral neurobiology...

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  13. Re:Who takes the fall? by stwrtpj · · Score: 2, Interesting
    He affirms that he doesn't actually know the guy, but that "[he has been] told enough about his background and how he did it to be pretty sure he is one of us".

    I don't know about you, but the DoSer's actions pretty well makes him not one of us in my mind.

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  14. Re:ca-ching... by donnz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Oh but there is. And he gets options to it at $0.66 a share. Each share dump is about 5,000 or 6,000 shares a time so presumably this fits into some scheme that avoids SEC type investigations.

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  15. SCO Source by El · · Score: 4, Interesting
    From the SCO website: SCOsource is a new business division to manage its UNIX(R) System intellectual property. The charter of the new division is to create new and innovative licensing programs to meet the changing demands of today's market and to protect its intellectual property asset.

    SCO is the owner of the UNIX Operating System Intellectual Property that dates all the way back 1969, when the UNIX System was created at Bell Laboratories. Through a series of mergers and acquisitions, SCO has acquired ownership of the patents, copyrights and core technology associated with the UNIX System. The SCO source division will continue to offer traditional UNIX System licenses to preserve, protect and enhance shareholder value.

    Darl, I can tell you're lying... your lips are moving! Care to list exactly which patents SCO owns?

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  16. Re:DOS too? by southpolesammy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hmmm....I wonder if SCO still owned DR-DOS if they would be picking on Microsoft with the same fervor as they're doing with IBM?

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  17. Re:Whew! Not that DOS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    No I'm talking about this http://www.drdos.com/fullstory/factstat.html

  18. Re:I Disagree by scrote-ma-hote · · Score: 5, Interesting
    IAAMS (Med Student). Basically what he is doing is showing off. But more to the point.

    1. LSD doesn't normally cause delusions.
    2. Cocaine and amphetamines do. They work on a part of the brain, that has to do with the neurotransmitter (a chemical signal) called dopamine.
    3. The way that most anti-psychotic (i.e. anti-schizophrenia drugs work, is to block a type of receptor (the bit that gets the chemical signal), called the D2 receptor.
    4. From this, it is postulated that the delusions you get with schizophrenia are related to having too much dopamine acting on those receptors.
    5. Therefore, cocaine and amphetamines, which increase dopamine at the receptors, probably cause the same delusions as schizophrenia.
    6. There might be other chemicals involved too.

    That probably confused you just as much, but I hope that makes the gibberish make sense.

  19. News flash: SCO Changes it's mind again! by Cletus+the+yokel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Unbelieveable... SCO is now backtracking on the whole Linux user lawsuit thing... SCO's PR people in Australia are now claiming that there was never any serious plans to sue Linux companies or commercial Linux companies! This in spite of Darl's statement quite to the contrary just a week ago!

    Are they really so stupid as to think that nobody will remember what they've actually said up to this point?

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  20. SCO mess is actually raising awareness by CySurflex · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I know quite a few people who all of a sudden know a lot more about the GPL than they ever did, thanks to SCO. One of them even installed Linux for the first time, and realized what a great thing open source is.