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Blaster Writer Caught
Henry V .009 writes "The FBI will be arresting an 18 year-old in connection with MS Blaster, reports The Washington Post." According to the article, the teen was witnessed testing the worm, and then turned in by a bystander. It's also worth noting that this is merely one of the Blaster variations. Hope whoever it was had fun, because a world of pain is waiting in store now.
That sounds fishy.
The average person wouldn't have a clue about what a developer was doing. There's no way someone can walk by and know that the guy was testing a virus.
The article states that this "18 year old" is the author, but later on it talks about how he was "observed testing" which all sounds a bit dubious. Assuming he is the author I have very little sympathy, virus writers need to be accountable for their actions. If however he is just been made a scapegoat......
Or have we forgotten how the system works?
Alleged writer. Innocent until proven guilty beyond all reasonable doubt.
Based on this report, the evidence so far is one witness of unknown competence. "Testing the infection"? I "tested the infection" yesterday by making sure that AVG can contain Blaster.
Oh, I'm sure that the FBI aren't (quite) dumb enough to announce this without doing some investigation, but the fact that they're announcing it as a fait accompli before they've even made the arrest indicates that this is a PR exercise.
But that's irrelevant speculation, because whatever their or my or your opinion on it, this guy is innocent... pause for breath... until proven guilty beyond all reasonable doubt. Let's drop the tabloid press pack mentality here.
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So the writers of these virii certainly are doing a bad thing and certainly are aware of this, but it seems to me that Windows/Outlook/Office ship with a big red button and endless admonitions not to push it. Of the two, the button maker and the button pusher, I know who I find fault with most, but I suspect that the media and most observers are becoming accustomed to these ridiculous risk exposures as somehow inherent in computing and thus tend not to blame the button maker. Think also that this effect has something to do with why these problems never seem to actually get *fixed*.
Folks, I know that "prison rape" jokes sound funny. I know that everyone gets a laugh when someone mentions "federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison." Yes, Office Space was one of the best movies ever made. No, that doesn't make prison rape hilarious.
Imagine if it were you in prison.
I have been incarcerated, and while I wasn't physically accosted (though I don't doubt that it may have happened if I'd been prescribed a longer stay), the sexual humiliation was probably the worst part of the experience. Prisoners have to shower. Together. And the jailors have seemingly no end of dick-jokes.
You have to disrobe before you get into the shower, obviously. You leave your prison garb in a "cubby" type lockeresque rack, and you hope that a) you remember which cubby you put your garb in and b) some joker doesn't forget such and take yours by accident.
After taking your clothes off, you have to pass by several guards before you get into the showers proper. And the guards utter sexually oriented insults to every inmate who walks past. "Hey smallcock." "How come you're so eager to get in the shower with a bunch of naked men?" "I bet all these guys want to have a big orgy!" "Today was grits and eggs for breakfast, but it must be sausage for dinner!" "Look at this, a whole shower full of little dicks!" etc. No, I'm not joking, the jailors really say this shit.
This was humiliating enough. I can't imagine the torture of actual prison rape. It happens, people, and it's very real. The things that go on in jail, most people (who, of course, have never been to jail) would not believe unless they witnessed it themselves. I hope that you don't have to, but at the same time, please have a modicum of respect for those of us who have been there, and those who are still there for whatever reason. I'm not asking you to have sympathy for people who have committed crimes; you do the crime, you do the time. But being a criminal does not mean you deserve sexual assault.
No aspect of prison is funny.
None.
Reread the article. They didn't bust the original author. They busted the lamewad that renamed msblast.exe to penis32.exe -- all he did was modify the existing virus.
Granted, the dipshit _touched_ the virus code and released a variant (albeit an extremely unoriginal one)
It was probably about as difficult as hex-editing a file. Gee. 5 minutes of dicking around is going to get him a life long prison ass pounding. Way to go, Genius.
And of course the uninformed media is going to paint the dumb bastard to be THE msblast author. Can anyone say "Scapegoat?"
When I read the piece, my initial reaction was, "They really should arrest Bill Gates". However, on some reflection, I'm not so sure Microsoft is the sole source of all the disruption over these worms.
OK, so the MS software makes worms and virus spreading relatively easy, due to activeX, executable mail attachments and bad security "out of the box" (open ports, exposed services such as RPC etc).
Still, if a motor manufacturer sold a mass market car without locks, windows or an alarm system, would anybody buy it?
The answer is, probably not. There's the issue of personal responsability to obtain a secure car. Same with software. Maybe it's all of those major businesses and misguided "CIOs" who keep buying Microsoft who ought to be arrested. Between them and the Microsoft execs, they've managed to create an environment which makes it easy for these bored young men to create worms.
Poor 18 year old guy. Why should he be arrested? After all, what's a script(kiddie) among friends?
The sad thing is they'll fail to catch the original Blaster author so they'll throw the book at this kid for the whole Blaster thing.
This seems to be the prevailing sentiment here and honestly, it's making you all look like a bunch of script kiddies, or at the very least script kiddie sympathizers.
Fact is this 18 year old "kid" (actually, adult in this country) committed a crime if he wrote this virus variant and distributed it. While he's still innocent until proven guilty, I fail to see how it's "sad" to get any virus writer - big or small - out of the virus writing business.
This is the way law enforcement works. You can't catch everybody who commits a crime, and if you don't show that you're actively enforcing the law, there will be more criminals. Study after study after study have shown this to be the absolute truth. Even if they don't catch the writer of the original Blaster, catching this guy and making an example out of him - as well as any other virus writers they no doubt will catch in the future - will act as something of a deterrent. You're all operating under the assumption that this guy is a small-fry writing viruses in his spare time - you think it's worth it to a guy like that to risk jail time? No, and this will cause others like him to think twice.
Obvious analogy - when there aren't any cops around, I see a lot of people run red lights. When there is a cop stationed at an intersection, I see nobody running red lights. Funny how that works.
And if his punishment is harsh, so what? If he's found guilty, he's a criminal. He deserves whatever he gets at that point. People need to take responsibility for their own actions and realize that their actions have consequences, both for the people they directly affect (ie. those infected by this variant of the Blaster virus) and for themselves. You'd think Slashdot readers would have a little more grasp of this concept than most (being open-source advocates), but it appears this may not be the case.
By your rationale, we should start caning graffiti artists in the US because that would be "something of a deterrent."
It's not a matter of whether he is guilty or not, but whether he is going to get a punishment that will fit the crime.
I wouldn't be surprised if the media makes this out into another Kevin Mitnick scenario.
The logic here is unbelieveable. So if you forget to lock a window in your home, and a burglar comes in and steals your stuff, and the burglar gets caught, YOU should be prosecuted for burglary for leaving the window open?
Yeah, some might say YOU should be more careful for not locking the window... but the REAL criminal still is the burglar that took your stuff! M$ has some serious problems, but that doesn't mean we should lose all of our common sense JUST to attack them some more.
Does M$ software have security issues? Yeah. Should script kiddies be let off easy because they take advantage of these problems? No. They are no better than the burglar that entered your unlocked window!
We need to start making people take responsibility for their own ACTIONS and quit blaming others. It's like blaming a door-lock manufacturer because someone can pick the lock! There will always be people that take UNLAWFUL advantage of real or perceived situations. That doesn't mean they are any less to blame for their actions.
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Not quite; it just means he doesn't have as good a lawyer as the prosecution.
On the other hand, nobody ever said prison was supposed to be all Tea and Crumpets, either: it's punishment for crimes committed and convicted. .
The punishment is incarceration, it is NOT sodomy. I have never heard a judge say in his/her verdict, "and I convict the defendant to 5 years of incarceration, with the occasional guy holding him down and taking him anally". NO. It's against the law. Just because it's prison, it doesn't mean it's alright to break laws. Gee, if that's the case, you could slip small boys into the prison for the whole yard to have a little fun with, jesus.
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I don't think the parent poster made any comments about WHAT the punishment should be, so please don't start citing rather harsh treatments to make your argument look more interesting. You could have just as easily made the statement, "By your rationale, we should start putting graffiti artists in jail for a month because that would be 'something of a deterrent.'".
Anyway, consider the fact that even though this guy only modified an existing virus, his crimes are EXACTLY the same as those of the original programmer. Writing a virus isn't a crime. Unleashing it and causing damage (economic or physical) to the property of others IS a crime. By modifying the virus, he created a new pattern that virus scanners would not recognize and thus was able to create similar damage as that of the original virus. Please explain to me how this isn't as bad as what the original author did.
My argument, by the way, is similar to ones made against the DMCA. The DMCA is being used to prosecute people who construct devices that CAN by used to circumvent copy protection. However, I think most of us agree that the real culprits are those that use it for such. In the case of viruses, if I construct a new virus, but never let it loose, am I guilty? If you manage to swipe a copy of the virus while you're at a LAN party at my house and then let it loose, aren't you the guilty one? If both of us unleash copies of the virus, aren't we both guilty?
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