WHat!?
"Partnering with Google, porting QT to Android, merging all cool meego functionality into Android, and cleaning up your product line didn't ever cross your mind, Nokia?"
Why would Google accept this? They own the android platform - and it is a platform. It has everything from the touch interface right down to the OS Kernel - why would they need QT or anything from Meego? The truth is, in the mobile space, QT is a solution looking for a problem. Winblows 7 mobile, IOS and Android are full stack systems, they don't need another API layered on them, much as hard-core/. geeks might wish otherwise.
OTOH, I also don't agree with the opinion expressed elsewhere in this thread that stock android with Nokia specific customisations (which don't include anything from QT or Meego) would have been impossible. Nokias strength has always been their hardware, there's no reason they couldn't have become the premier vendor of Android handsets.
Try reading the article in the Chicago Trib linked to the article linked to this/. story.
Another open and shut case of something else, I'd say - that something else relating to someones ability to read linked articles.
But hey, karma is cheap.
from TFA; "Rosario Rodriguez said her daughter, Araceli Beas, posted that she needed to go to the gym as she sat in her car while waiting for it to warm up outside her boyfriend’s home near East 80th Street and South Commercial Avenue last Dec. 27. Beas struck Raymond Veloz about two miles away near 92nd Street and South Ewing Avenue, police said at the time."
Also from TFA; "Police cited Beas for failure to avoid striking a pedestrian. Beas and the driver involved in the minor collision with Veloz told officers at the time that they had been temporarily blinded by the sun."
Far from an open and closed case, I'd say, but then, WhaddaIknow?
Next time you walk down your garden path on the way to the newsagents to collect your Daily Mail, take a look under your hedge - there's a paedophile hiding there.
Ages ago, in a different lifetime, I was taught that there are four so-called "factors of production"; Land, Labour, Capital and Enterprise.
Land for the physical space to make things, Capital to finance the work being done, ("investment") and Labour to make whatever is being made.
All of these organised and co-ordinated by "Enterprise". I'm guessing, that while you fulfilled the "Labour" part of the equation, and were paid a salary for so doing, whoever had the idea to make these condensers, and was willing to take the risk to make that idea reality, and organise the financial backing reaped the Entrepreneurs reward.
You mean they've nuked the website in favour of some kind of Flash driven, PDF-ish scan of the print version of the newspaper? If so, that's truly regressive!
Murdoch's terrible Faux News was on the TV in the bar last night and gees, if anyone would have talked about Bush when he was in office the way Murdoch's "news" station talks about Obama, Faux News and the neocons would have called them "traitors" and screamed bloody murder.
That's absolutely correct. He wants to tell people what to think and when to think it. And gets outraged when they don't comply.
They also fell heads-over-heel for Obama.
That's not quite accurate. They strongly supported John McCain until it became obvious that Palin was sinking his ship. Their support for Obama has always been critical and muted.
I agree. A good library or Framework allied with the basics of the language and some knowledge of best practice probably go a lot further than people give credit for. I too learned BASIC (BBC-Basic) and had a lot of fun with it. Was taught PASCAL and Modula2, but I struggled with C. Pointers and memory management and the lack of instant feedback that you get with BASIC really put me off. I spent years with some 4GLs and database specific languages before a very well structured, framework heavy proprietary OO language eventaully took me to Java, which is where I am now. However, I will be revisting C and ObjectiveC in order to do something with the iPhone. It's not nearly as daunting now as it once was.
I'm not really sure how your point applies to the current discussion...
Well, the FSF philosophy of "Software wants to be Free" is a blanket which applies to all software, even when it makes no sense to apply that philosophy. As I pointed out elsewhere in this discussion, there's really no difference between cloning an operating system from open code and cloning a software platform from an open api. Philosophically, however, RMS deems the open API clone to be morally wrong in this case, because the API is controlled by Microsoft. I guess my point is that there are a lot of grey areas which this black and white philosophy doesn't really fit. Finally (before I butt out!) the End User of a nuke system isn't necessarily the owner of that code, but your stipulation of "wanting the ability to be absolutely certain of where it[the nuke] will go when they push that Big Red Button" would probably be covered by a restrictive "non-Free" licence.:)
If you're properly rewarded (compensated) for the creation of your program, what right do you have to impose additional restrictions on me, the end user?
You, the end user, may not be the owner of the software in question. In that case, I have every right to stop you from fiddling with the naviagtion software for my nukes, or the avionics software in my aircraft, or the transactional software in my payment settlement system.
I guess the difference is that Gnash guys hate Flash with passion, whereas Miguel & friends recommend the technology they work with as reasonable choice for new development.
So, Gnash is OK because the developers hate Flash because it's proprietary to Adobe? This whole thing is truly laughable. I don't see how reverse engineering a platform from an openly published API spec is any different to reverse engineering an operating system by reading and understanding its source code. Maybe Stallman really did hate UNIX after all.
The tail wags the dog, as is usual in politics. Which dog is Senator Leland Yee wagging? Or, perhaps more pertinently, who's Yee being wagged by? And why? There's usually some special interest group, or someone who stands to gain...who is it?
Dear Mr President,
You really should be buying American products in order to stimulate economic recovery in the United States of America.
May I take this opportunity to remond you that MICROSOFT is an AMERICAN CORPORATION!
BUY AMERICAN! BUY AMERICAN!
We love you, Mr President
Sincerely,
Steve Ballmer
Too bad he couldn't actually give real promises and expectations other than 'hope' this and 'change' that.
Whenever I see comments like this, I wonder if the commentator is genuinely misinformed or if they're too intellectually lazy to find out what Obama means by "hope" and "change". Hint: He's written two books.
I was thinking "there is something wrong with the people" - the thing being wrong is that they don't understand what this treaty or the previous constitution is, thanks to a nationalistic, xenophobic media and vested interests.
I'm a member of those masses. I haven't got a clue what the Lisbon treaty is about, or the previous constition proposal. I blame the media for that. Instead of educating and informing, they're knee jerking and scare-mongering.
Of course, being web savvy, I could do my own research, but many other people can't...
And yes, "African-American" is a downright stupid appellation. Can you call a black child born in Denmark "African-American"? Are you suggesting that black people (or people of any "race") behave uniformly regardless of which society they live in?
Presumably, if a black child is born in Denmark, they wouldn't be American. Obviously, when classifing people of African extraction in the USA, it makes sense to call them African Americans. If this were a study of White Americans, or Latino Americans, no doubt it would have been labeled as such.
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WHat!? /. geeks might wish otherwise.
"Partnering with Google, porting QT to Android, merging all cool meego functionality into Android, and cleaning up your product line didn't ever cross your mind, Nokia?"
Why would Google accept this? They own the android platform - and it is a platform. It has everything from the touch interface right down to the OS Kernel - why would they need QT or anything from Meego? The truth is, in the mobile space, QT is a solution looking for a problem. Winblows 7 mobile, IOS and Android are full stack systems, they don't need another API layered on them, much as hard-core
OTOH, I also don't agree with the opinion expressed elsewhere in this thread that stock android with Nokia specific customisations (which don't include anything from QT or Meego) would have been impossible. Nokias strength has always been their hardware, there's no reason they couldn't have become the premier vendor of Android handsets.
Ok, calm down....
Try reading the article in the Chicago Trib linked to the article linked to this /. story.
Another open and shut case of something else, I'd say - that something else relating to someones ability to read linked articles.
But hey, karma is cheap.
from TFA; "Rosario Rodriguez said her daughter, Araceli Beas, posted that she needed to go to the gym as she sat in her car while waiting for it to warm up outside her boyfriend’s home near East 80th Street and South Commercial Avenue last Dec. 27. Beas struck Raymond Veloz about two miles away near 92nd Street and South Ewing Avenue, police said at the time." Also from TFA; "Police cited Beas for failure to avoid striking a pedestrian. Beas and the driver involved in the minor collision with Veloz told officers at the time that they had been temporarily blinded by the sun." Far from an open and closed case, I'd say, but then, WhaddaIknow?
Next time you walk down your garden path on the way to the newsagents to collect your Daily Mail, take a look under your hedge - there's a paedophile hiding there.
Ages ago, in a different lifetime, I was taught that there are four so-called "factors of production"; Land, Labour, Capital and Enterprise. Land for the physical space to make things, Capital to finance the work being done, ("investment") and Labour to make whatever is being made. All of these organised and co-ordinated by "Enterprise". I'm guessing, that while you fulfilled the "Labour" part of the equation, and were paid a salary for so doing, whoever had the idea to make these condensers, and was willing to take the risk to make that idea reality, and organise the financial backing reaped the Entrepreneurs reward.
You mean they've nuked the website in favour of some kind of Flash driven, PDF-ish scan of the print version of the newspaper? If so, that's truly regressive!
Murdoch's terrible Faux News was on the TV in the bar last night and gees, if anyone would have talked about Bush when he was in office the way Murdoch's "news" station talks about Obama, Faux News and the neocons would have called them "traitors" and screamed bloody murder.
That's absolutely correct. He wants to tell people what to think and when to think it. And gets outraged when they don't comply.
They also fell heads-over-heel for Obama.
That's not quite accurate. They strongly supported John McCain until it became obvious that Palin was sinking his ship. Their support for Obama has always been critical and muted.
I agree. A good library or Framework allied with the basics of the language and some knowledge of best practice probably go a lot further than people give credit for. I too learned BASIC (BBC-Basic) and had a lot of fun with it. Was taught PASCAL and Modula2, but I struggled with C. Pointers and memory management and the lack of instant feedback that you get with BASIC really put me off. I spent years with some 4GLs and database specific languages before a very well structured, framework heavy proprietary OO language eventaully took me to Java, which is where I am now. However, I will be revisting C and ObjectiveC in order to do something with the iPhone. It's not nearly as daunting now as it once was.
I'm not really sure how your point applies to the current discussion...
Well, the FSF philosophy of "Software wants to be Free" is a blanket which applies to all software, even when it makes no sense to apply that philosophy. As I pointed out elsewhere in this discussion, there's really no difference between cloning an operating system from open code and cloning a software platform from an open api. Philosophically, however, RMS deems the open API clone to be morally wrong in this case, because the API is controlled by Microsoft. :)
I guess my point is that there are a lot of grey areas which this black and white philosophy doesn't really fit. Finally (before I butt out!) the End User of a nuke system isn't necessarily the owner of that code, but your stipulation of "wanting the ability to be absolutely certain of where it[the nuke] will go when they push that Big Red Button" would probably be covered by a restrictive "non-Free" licence.
If you're properly rewarded (compensated) for the creation of your program, what right do you have to impose additional restrictions on me, the end user?
You, the end user, may not be the owner of the software in question. In that case, I have every right to stop you from fiddling with the naviagtion software for my nukes, or the avionics software in my aircraft, or the transactional software in my payment settlement system.
I guess the difference is that Gnash guys hate Flash with passion, whereas Miguel & friends recommend the technology they work with as reasonable choice for new development.
So, Gnash is OK because the developers hate Flash because it's proprietary to Adobe? This whole thing is truly laughable. I don't see how reverse engineering a platform from an openly published API spec is any different to reverse engineering an operating system by reading and understanding its source code. Maybe Stallman really did hate UNIX after all.
Wish I had mod points. It's sad how people here on /. love to bash Steve Jobs, but when it comes to RMS, they have multiple orgasm.
The tail wags the dog, as is usual in politics. Which dog is Senator Leland Yee wagging? Or, perhaps more pertinently, who's Yee being wagged by? And why? There's usually some special interest group, or someone who stands to gain...who is it?
now if she had said, "show me the money shot" i would have had some sympathy.
Dear Mr President, You really should be buying American products in order to stimulate economic recovery in the United States of America. May I take this opportunity to remond you that MICROSOFT is an AMERICAN CORPORATION! BUY AMERICAN! BUY AMERICAN! We love you, Mr President Sincerely, Steve Ballmer
The legal system in this country is a joke.
Now that Karadzic has been arrested, things can only get better....
He invented the joystick sensitivity function found in Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft controllers
Did he? Or did engineers from those three corporations also decide to implement something obvious but not bother to patent their "inventions" first?
And I don't doubt your love. The witticism I was alluding to was your way of expressing yourself. Very..er..benevolent
:)
Perhaps it was unintended, but I found it funny anyway.
Agree about Obama BTW - unless you're being sarcastic.
Son, you need to think it through. You've got a good heart but you're head is spinning a little too fast. I say this from love.
:)
Witty...witty...
Too bad he couldn't actually give real promises and expectations other than 'hope' this and 'change' that.
Whenever I see comments like this, I wonder if the commentator is genuinely misinformed or if they're too intellectually lazy to find out what Obama means by "hope" and "change". Hint: He's written two books.
I was thinking "there is something wrong with the people" - the thing being wrong is that they don't understand what this treaty or the previous constitution is, thanks to a nationalistic, xenophobic media and vested interests.
I'm a member of those masses. I haven't got a clue what the Lisbon treaty is about, or the previous constition proposal. I blame the media for that. Instead of educating and informing, they're knee jerking and scare-mongering. Of course, being web savvy, I could do my own research, but many other people can't...