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Failure Is Always an Option

Logic Bomb writes "The New York Times has a short but elegant op-ed regarding the different perspectives of engineers and managers and the role that plays in accidents like the space shuttle Columbia disaster. It's the sort of article you'll nod all the way through, then print and leave anonymously on your supervisor's desk. Any tech managers in the Slashdot crowd might have some interesting comments on how the right balance is struck." Henry Petroski has written several good books on engineering and failure.

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  1. In software terms by (54)T-Dub · · Score: 5, Interesting
    In the case of Columbia, engineers who worried about damage that the spacecraft may have suffered during launch were ineffective in getting it properly inspected before reentry.

    In the case of my last software project, engineers who worried about bugs that the software may have suffered during design were ineffective in getting it properly inspected before launch.
    When engineers and managers clashed over the 1986 Challenger launch, the managers pulled rank.
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    The Columbia Accident Investigation Board has recommended that NASA establish an independent Technical Engineering Authority. This would put responsibility for technical matters where it rightly belongs -- with the engineers who, because they know how the space shuttle was designed, also know best how it can fail.
    "No boss, I have no idea where that article printed out 15 times and strewn across your office came from........ It looks like a good article though."
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    "I can not bring myself to believe that if knowledge presents danger, the solution is ignorance" - Isaac Asimov
  2. NASA's Vietnam (From today's Wall Street Journal) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    By Homer Hickam

    When I go to the Cape and watch the Shuttle being launched, I still get a lump in my throat watching it soar. Even though I no longer work for NASA, its thunder affirms my dreams for spaceflight. Still, when I put emotion aside, I can't ignore my engineering training. That training and my knowledge as a 20-year veteran of the space agency (and also a Vietnam vet) has led me to conclude that the Space Shuttle is NASA's Vietnam. A generation of engineers and managers have exhausted themselves trying to make it work and they just can't. Why not? Because the Shuttle's engineering design, just as Vietnam's political design, is inherently flawed.

    Much has been made of the report produced by the Columbia Accident Investigation Board (CAIB). I've read newspaper articles that called it "scathing." Hardly. Its tepid recommendations probably had Shuttle managers who made poor decisions dancing with relief. It gave them a pass by proclaiming "culture" made them do it.

    I don't believe there's a NASA culture. There is, however, a Shuttle cult. It is practiced like a religion by space policy makers who simply cannot imagine an American space agency without the Shuttle. Well, I can, and it's a space agency which can actually fly people and cargoes into orbit without everybody involved being terrified of imminent destruction every time there's lift-off. With some reservations, written in the politest language, the CAIB recommended to keep Shuttles flying but with more inspections, more bureaucracy (an outside safety agency), and more money. But piling on more inspections, people and dollars won't make the Shuttle safer. Neither will the safety sensitivity training that will probably be dumped on top of the overworked, disillusioned NASA engineers. My God, they've already dedicated their very souls to keep the Shuttle flying safely! The truth is, no amount of arm-waving about "culture" can fix a flawed design.

    Take a look at the Shuttle stack and what do you see? A fragile spaceplane sitting on the back of a huge propellant tank between two massive solid rocket boosters. The Shuttle has to sit right in the middle of all the turmoil of launch because we once believed it would be cheaper to bring back those engines and rebuild them than to build new ones. That has not proved to be the case -- far from it -- but it has left us with a crew sitting in the most vulnerable position possible in terms of design. Simply put, had that spaceplane been on top of the stack, the destruction of Challenger and Columbia wouldn't have occurred. The CAIB ignored this flawed design and that makes their conclusions suspect: no amount of inspections or condemning another NASA generation to worry over this thing will solve it.

    So let's get practical. We can't just shut the thing down. We need the Shuttle to finish the space station and also to keep the Russians and Chinese from dominating space. I'm not willing to see that occur while we dither. Human spaceflight is important to this country. But the Shuttle is as safe as you're going to get with what's in place today. Let's put some tough engineers in charge, fly it 10 more times over the next four years with hand-picked crews to finish the space station and meet our international obligations. Then close the program and replace it with expendable launchers and a shiny new spaceplane. And, this time, put it on top.

  3. Re:NASA's Vietnam (From today's Wall Street Journa by (54)T-Dub · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The problem is that people are afraid that if the shuttle stops flying space exploration will stop. Public support will wane and funcing will slow. I happen to disagree but there are many in the space program who do not.

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  4. Can it really be fixed? by Empiric · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have to admit up front that I am biased against NASA on primarily ethical grounds. To me, there's one basic valid purpose of government, and that's to defend the individual rights of its citizens. In the U.S., this is the principle upon which the Constitution and Bill of Rights is based, and the primary ligitimate activities of government, the police, courts, and defense, are inferrable from that.

    Everything has an opportunity cost. The money spent on NASA could otherwise be spent elsewhere, such as aiding the homeless or better road infrastructure, and preferably on something the person earning the money (the taxpayer) himself chose.

    Sure, it's nice to be able to explore space and determine facts about physics and cosmology, and test theories against empirical information, but I think at some point the costs associated with expanding the realm of science to more obscure areas, in the shorter term, are too high. And, yes, I know the argument that expanding basic science can lead to invention that benefits the individual, but personally I'd put more faith in the ability of industry to use the money making targeted investments while hiring scientists, than effective production from NASA. At some point I think we have to say the money can be better spent than knowing more about the behavior of some unreachable binary star. Eventually, that information will likely come anyway, as a function of better theoretical models. Why do we need it now, assuming it isn't primarily to give a Ph.D. something to play with?

    NASA exists in an enviroment that offers none of the efficiency advantages of modern industry.

    - No effective competition
    - No way to inexpensively prototype or proof-of-concept things and test them in the intended deployment environment
    - Few efficiencies of scale from being able to buy parts widely used and commoditized
    - Little economic justification for the expense, even in the instances where the mission is "successful"
    - No realistic, market-driven benchmarks for the performance of the managers or engineers

    In the end, I don't feel that NASA is an optimal way to spend money, and since it's at least in part my money, I should be able to make this decision. Perhaps some kind of opt-in "NASA" checkbox, like I've seen opt-in "environmental" checkboxes on tax forms. I'd be content with that.

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    1. Re:Can it really be fixed? by Viking+Coder · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Recognizing human stupidity is being realistic. Hoping that humans will stop being stupid is being both irrational (we've never done it before, what makes you think that we can just CHANGE?), and will result in bad things (cutting funding for vital programs, for one).

      Given that humans are stupid, we have to do everything we can to craft a smarter government that can make better decisions.

      Heck, relying on corporate intelligence is just as dumb. Picture a stupid executive who can't imagine failure. Picture him making a nuclear power plant in downtown Manhattan. His Return for his investment could be HUGE! His investment is relatively TINY! His ROI is almost infinite! Except he fails, and kills 10 million people.

      Stan 'The Man' Lee put it best, "With great power comes great responsibility."

      You're right that corporations have the potential to do tremendous good for society, and that to a large degree, we as citizens can count on them to compete in such a way that we all get a lot of benefit from it. But corporations are only as smart as the people who run them, and they are under one hell of a lot less scrutiny than our government is. Checks and ballances. That was really the best part of the Constitution, if you ask me. I can better trust my Government to make non-harmful decisions than I can trust [insert random CEO here]. Especially since I'm the boss of that Government, and I get a say in how they work. I can't afford to own stock in every company, vote intelligently in every investment meeting, and advocate responsibility in every other stockholder. But I can sure as hell elect someone, and pay taxes, to make sure that there's at least SOME intelligence in double-checking every corporation.

      You might argue that by buying or not buying a product, I'm making all of the difference that I need to. But what if I don't fscking want whales to go extinct? Boycotting whale meat canners won't cut it. And I can't get EVERYONE to care about my goal. Instead, I try to make sure that my government makes whale canning illegal, or at least hard enough to do that, even though there's a market (and there IS), that there's no way to do business with it.

      What's the ROI for spending money to make whale extinction illegal? If you can answer that in economic terms, then maybe there's hope for your vision. But I think your response has to be, "I don't know." And maybe you say, "Nuke the whales," because of that very argument. And that, my friend, is why I'm glad that Government spends money on things that, if put to a vote, we'd never spend money on.

      The answer is more money for government, not less. More regulation, to get what I want. More spending on research, and education, and investing in our future. Responsible Intellectual Property rights. On and on...

      Competition in nature results in animals eating their young. Why do we assume that no bad results can come from competition in business?

      A Government literally changes the Environment of Corporations. I can better control the actions of corporations by influencing my government's regulations than I can influence the decision of EVERY corporation.

      To put it in Genetic Algorithm terms, every corporation tries to maximize ROI(x). A Government literally changes the function "ROI", thus influencing every corporation.

      The "risk versus reward" analysis of "ROI" forgets that the rewards for incredibly risky behavior can be ENORMOUS. Like, for instance, building a cruddy nuclear power plant in the middle of Manhattan.

      Alright, I'm rambling. I wish Slashdot had a better "ongoing conversation" mechanism... *shrug*

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  5. Re:Safety always has a price by jmagar.com · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't know who said it, or if I have the quote right but I'll attribute it to a 1950's era Ford Engineer:

    "The most effective safety device for a car would be a 6 inch metal spike, attached to the steering wheel, pointed at the driver's chest."

    Surely that would be cheaper than today's airbags, and I agree that I'd be inclined to drive a little more cautiously... Safety doesn't have to cost money, but it will cost something. In this case It would take me much longer to cross the city in my car, traveling at about 40km/h...

  6. Re:This is annoying. by Niles_Stonne · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Did you read the Investigation report?

    Hindsight is 20/20, but that doesn't mean that we should wear blinders when looking towards the future!

    The Management team _actively_ canceled requests for information pertaining to the impact. See page 153 of the PDF.

    The management team also didn't follow their own procedures, they didn't meet every day (they were supposed to).

    I was impressed by the engineers at Boeing (I think that was the company) who elected to research the impact and footage of it over the weekend even when management told them not to.

    Read the report. Section 6.3 (DECISION-MAKING DURING THE FLIGHT OF STS-107) is extremely interesting and points out Eight seperate missed opportunities to find out more information about the problem.

    There were also some engineering related issues - the engineers using test software that wasn't designed to analize an impact nearly that large, and other issues - but it really comes down to a lack of the management team accepting that there could be a real, out-of-family problem on the mission.

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  7. Management's decision not to image by Animats · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The NASA manager who stopped the USAF from imaging the shuttle for damage, Linda Ham, is apparently still on the NASA payroll, although she's been shipped out of Houston.

    It's worth thinking about what would have happened if the damaged Shuttle had been images by USAF ground cameras, and it became clear that re-entry was going to be a disaster. The shuttle and crew would have been stuck in orbit, with worldwide publicity, while NASA tried to come up with a fix. They probably wouldn't have succeeded. On-orbit rescue using Atlantis has been discussed as marginally possible, and on-orbit patching has been suggested, but most likely, they wouldn't have worked.

    Think of the PR fallout. Seven astronauts stuck in orbit for most of a month, with constant TV coverage, followed by their deaths on worldwide TV. That would have been career-ending for most of NASA's top management. Letting them crash saved the jobs of top people at NASA.

    Worst case, a rushed launch of Atlantis could have resulted in losing two shuttles. That would have ended the Shuttle program.

    1. Re:Management's decision not to image by Ashyukun · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I think you're making a false assumption here- that only the US would be throwing their efforts into the rescue operation. I think that all of the space agencies would have begun working out possible solutions to get the astronauts down safely, and the odds are one of them (or a combination thereof) would have come up with a workable solution. It would have meant considerable egg on the faces of NASA, but I think it would have been huge PR internationally for them having the humility to have asked for help and not just been the arrogant Americans who think they don't need anyone else. I'm more inclined to believe flat out ignorance that a problem existed on the part of management than a conspiracy to sacrifice the crew and the craft to save their own asses.

      Of course, I'm also an engineer myself and obviously look at things from that perspective- where there are a considerable number of things more important than keeping my job and 'ethics' is more than just a required class HR makes us sleep through ever year...

  8. Optimism and pessimism by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Henry Petroski wrote
    >If engineers are pessimists, managers are optimists about technology.

    Is this the difference between programmers and engineers?

    Fred Brooks, in The Mythical Man-Month (go read it!) argues that programmers are optimists. We work with pure thought-stuff, so of course it should work the way we think it will. Bzzt. But that optimism drives projects. Who'd start a big project knowing how many stomach-churning bugs, random external changes, stupid feature requests, irrelevant but deadly external bugs, dependencies and just plain stapler misfires would come up? How many projects, open or closed source, would have started if the actual development timeline had been known in advance?

  9. To Engineer is Human by Ahotasu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This reminds me of a decent book I read about a year ago, called To Engineer is Human . It discusses the role engineering failures play in our many engineering successes.

    Interesting read, though the author tends to drone on and on a bit. He makes some great points, though, not the lest of which is that (gasp!) engineers are not perfect, and thus, failures will happen. And guess what--most of the time, we learn from those failures!

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  10. We Don't Need Space Craft With Wings by reallocate · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hickam is on track, but I'm not sure we need spacecraft with wings. Wings are only useful on airplanes. By definition, spacecraft are not airplanes. NASA has thrown away too much money pursuing winged spacecraft for their own sake, rather than dealing with the issue of getting people to and from space. They might as well try to make a submarine that can fly. Probably do-able, but: why?

    Let's decide that we will do two things:

    1) Any human space travel beyond LEO will start from LEO in spacecraft built in LEO and that return to LEO. If we do that, we will never need to spend money trying to build airplane-spacecraft hybrids.

    2) Let's use big expendable boosters to get hardware to LEO, and smaller expendable boosters to get people to LEO. Put the people in modern versions of the Apollo or Gemini craft (the so-called "Big" Gemini was an appropos solution)>

    And, let's also decide that the main reason to build a space station in LEO is to serve as a construction yard and a gas station for trips elsewhere. Let's put aside the quaint notion that the reason we need to be in space is to "do science".

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    1. Re:We Don't Need Space Craft With Wings by FatAlb3rt · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Put the people in modern versions of the Apollo or Gemini craft
      and land with a thud. i guess if it's functional, that's what matters, but nonetheless, descending with a parachute seems so primitive.

    2. Re:We Don't Need Space Craft With Wings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think you are both over simplifying the problem. I work on the design of launch vehicles every day, and never is a decision as fundamental as "parallel vs. serial stacking" or "wings vs. no-wings" based on a single factor. These vehicles are some of the most complex machines ever imagined by humans, and their capabilities in terms of the "big 3" factors (safety, cost, performance) are an emergent property of the system as a whole; no single design decision (or philosophy) will make/brake a system like this.

      There is however (even among very knowledgable people) a "religion" of rocketry - an irrational devotion towards a specific concept or design philosophy as a "one fits all" solution, whether data supports that position or not. When the steam engine came on-line, people added "Bells and Whistles" claiming huge advantages provided by these devices - until Carnot came around and proved them wrong. The space program doesn't need any more soap-box rocket science, but a focused plan with clear goals, and the willingness to commit the resources to meet these goals. You make mistakes, you learn from them, but you keep going.

      NASA has been blowing money at finding a Shuttle replacement for decades (Space Launch Initiative, VentureStar, 2nd Generation RLV program, National Aerospace Plane, etc.), but the researchers they hire are the existing launch vehicle providers that have no interest in creating something to push themselves out of the market; and NASA itself no longer attracts the kind of talent they did in the Apollo era, because of its culture of petty bickering and political agendas - the last thing any scientist/engineer wants to waste their efforts on.

      Instead of currying political favors from congress by running the agency as the jobs program it has turned into, NASA needs to focus on creating new technology and then let the private sector pick it up and provide actual space services, engendering competition by enabling companies too small to start from scratch themselves to participate. Instead, they pay the private sector to come up with products that compete with their existing offerings, and if one does come to fruition (like the Shuttle), it is NASA that operates the technology (the opposite of what it should be).

      One definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over, and expect a different result. By that definition NASA is truly insane.
      It's a dinosaur agency that needs to be replaced with an institution that has clearly defined long/short term goals, other than its own political survival.

    3. Re:We Don't Need Space Craft With Wings by Rich0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There are lots of scientific things that can be done in space. However, I think the parent was pointing out that very few of them are suited to the ISS.

      Using the ISS as a construction yard and sending probes from there out into space to do science does make sense.

      One scenario that might make sense is make the ISS a last-stage checkout and repair facility. A probe can be launched, and then in LEO it can be checked out and qualified before being sent on its mission (hence the probe is known to work after subjecting it to the forces of launch into LEO).

      Also, large probes could be launched in modular chunks and reassembled in LEO. This might alleviate some of the concern of radioactive decay generators. The generator could be launched alone with excessive shielding, and then combined with the actual probe in orbit.

      Not sure it is practical to do any of this at this stage, but right now little science is being done on the ISS...

  11. Managers take all the credit too! by Newer+Guy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been involved in engineering literally all my life. My dad was an engineer and as a small child I remember going to work with my dad and being in awe of all the stuff he had to 'play' with. I never wanted to be anything else! Unfortunately, in the scheme of things we are the workers, the ones who toil withput credit. The managers take all of that. In the 1980's as a contract engineer I built a Boston FM radio station from scratch (WFNX), yet they didn't even see fit to invite me to its sign on party! When I asked why, I was told: "You were paid well for your work, isn't that enough?". They actually believed they paid me too much to make their property worth many millions morethan it was before. Needless to say from that time forward, I did only precicely what they paid me to do (and what they asked me to do), nothing more. Part of the problem is we ALLOW ourselves to be treated in this way! The plumber, electrician or auto mechanic don't. Why do we? I think one answer is UNION. They realize there is respect and safety in numbers. Are we too good, too elite to do the same?

  12. Re:The Wrong Focus by mzipay · · Score: 2, Interesting

    fair enough, point taken.
    i personally have a bit of a different philosophy. to me, a focus on success presupposes a focus on points of failure.
    i can develop an algorithm to process foo and focus intently on getting all the little details just right (focus on the success of the algorithm). but if i fail to perform appropriate checking at critical points, then that algorithm may very well be useless in anything but an academic environment.
    focusing on failure begets failure, sure. but my point was that a focus on failure *analysis* is very much a vital part of the design process, at least as much so as a focus on successful implementation.
    good luck with your studies, and don't forget to analyze your points of failure :)

  13. Re:Will any corp. write the big check? by EricTheGreen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Can we? Good question...

    A couple maybe-relevant personal opinions:

    1. As pointed out by others in this thread, basic space research has had a bunch of other benefits in other industries. From a body politic perspective, I'd say we've benefitted overall from it, so it seems a net-beneficial exercise, at least to me.

    2. NASA does a horrible job qualifying the "why" of these programs. I think they need to point out benefits other than space just being a Cool Place To Explore.

    3. If you're saying that NASA needs a little more oversight and thought in deciding which programs to fund and how to manage them, I absolutely agree with you.

  14. Why flythe shuttle upside down? by amightywind · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Take a look at the Shuttle stack and what do you see? A fragile spaceplane sitting on the back of a huge propellant tank between two massive solid rocket boosters. The Shuttle has to sit right in the middle of all the turmoil of launch because we once believed it would be cheaper to bring back those engines and rebuild them than to build new ones. That has not proved to be the case -- far from it -- but it has left us with a crew sitting in the most vulnerable position possible in terms of design. Simply put, had that spaceplane been on top of the stack, the destruction of Challenger and Columbia wouldn't have occurred. The CAIB ignored this flawed design and that makes their conclusions suspect: no amount of inspections or condemning another NASA generation to worry over this thing will solve it.

    Pundits have claimed that the parallel launch configuration of the orbiter and external tank are a design flaw. Hog wash. The size of the orbiter precludes an inline configuration. If you want to fly "spam in a can" on top of a larger rockets then welcome back to 1960!

    Now that a major risk of known to be debris strike, to avert it why not have the shuttle ascend right side up? The shuttle currently flies upside down for two (lousy) historical reasons: to simplify the manuver for RTLS abort, and a for line of sight radio link with the ground and antennae on the nose of the orbiter. There are no groundstations down range anymore. RTLS will not be made any more insanely risky than it already is by having the orbiter stack roll 180 degrees to an RTLS attitude. The shuttle already rolls to heads up after 5 minutes of flight in order to acquire the TDRS satellite for tracking and communications. Doing so in flight through the lower atmosphere should have added benefits. Tank debris will tend to fall away from the orbiter instead of into it. The lift provided by the orbiter wings should improve performance.

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  15. Re:NASA's Vietnam (From today's Wall Street Journa by WatertonMan · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Someone mod the parent up. This is so true. There is no real public support for space. I personally think the trip to mars and the space station as proposed are dumb. But space is good. They just need to do some serious rethinking about how to do it.

    At this point the X-Prize gives me more hope than NASA.

  16. CMM - Ah the memories! by etresoft · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I used to work at a big defense company (it doesn't matter which one, they are all the same) that was constantly striving for CMM level 3.

    I knew one nice lady (a rarity in both respects) whose entire job consisted of going from meeting to meeting carrying a stack of paper at least a foot high. And this was a project that was about 1000 times smaller than the shuttle project.

  17. Flying submarines by danila · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here are two articles (part 1 and part 2) about the history of flying submarines. Great stuff. It's in Russian, so you will need to use the fish or just check out the photos.

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  18. Tufte's commentary is apropos by YetAnotherName · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When engineers and managers clashed over the 1986 Challenger launch, the managers pulled rank.

    What a dark, yet utterly true statement. Do the NASA and contracting company managers sleep well today knowing that in 1986 their decisions cost lives?

    Edward Tufte, author of some amazing books on information display, wrote in Envisioning Information on the Challenger disaster. Looking at the materials prepared by engineers, he saw that they had correctly correlated temperature with O-ring failure. Yet their materials, hastily prepared during the 11th hour, failed to convince managers to abort the launch. Tufte shows a design of a simple graph that shows temperature on the abscissa and burn-through on the ordinate, and any manager could draw a line through the points and extrapolate out to the bitter cold Florida day that cost the shuttle.

    Having my own share of bad managers, I have to wonder, would it have made any difference?

  19. Re:NASA's Vietnam (From today's Wall Street Journa by b-baggins · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That's the major flaw with government underwriting a space program. You have to get public support for it. Let private enterprise underwrite it, and all you need is commercial interest. That's a MUCH easier beast to summon.

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  20. Re:WHAT CORPS ACTUALLY COMPETE? by dpilot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Oh, because you've forgotten the basic truisms:

    Private sector ALWAYS GOOD.
    Government sectore ALWAYS BAD.

    I've tried to say it here and other places before, with mixed reactions:

    The government has no monopoly on stupidity. The success of the cartoon strip, "Dilbert" proves that business has its share - across the board.

    I used to imagine that Scott Adams worked for my employer, but when he revealed that he worked for Pac Bell, I decided that the stupidity he writes of was universal to the high-tech industry. Then I found that my sister-in-law, who works in a doctors' office, finds it "meaningful," and others in non-high-tech say the same. Stupidity appears universal.

    (No doubt some of you will apply it to this post, as well.)

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  21. Risk??? by willtsmith · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think that the author was really off the mark.

    First, the engineer/scientist comparison is incomplete. There is a third category, the inventor. He can often be one of the two, often he is all three.

    The engineer leverages science to build useful creations. The scientist researchers the way the universe works, he often cares nothing for invention, only knowledge.

    The inventor really doesn't CARE about science OR engineering. He just wants something that works and is happy when it does. If it fails, he will invent something better. He'll use science and engineering if it furthers his goals.

    The beueracrat is of course the forth factor that tries to get engineers, scientists and inventors to serve some other goal. Sometimes the public well-being, sometimes his own. Most often he serves his bosses well being in pursuit of his own which may or may not correspond to the well being of an organization (like the public interest).

    Part of serving your bosses best interest is not making him look bad. When you ground your project, your project looks bad irregardless of whether it's the right thing to do. It causes the schedule to slip, and somewhere up the line the big boss is staking his reputation on it. Thats how you get to be the big boss, making promises and coming through.

    The truth is that failure is a part of success. Risk is a fundamental part of achievement and risk will ALWAYS produce failures at some point.

    I am disspointed at the nature of Columbia's failure. However, in such a game as space travel, risk is an incredible factor. Despite an incredible effort to systematically mitigate risk, you will have failures.

    Whether it's from the managements perspective or the engineers, failure will inevitably occur. The prime risk for the managers is that NOTHING would get done if they did EVERYTHING the engineers wanted to. The perfect system isn't created, it evolves. And evolution NEEDS failure to point out mistakes.

    In this case, the managers were wrong. Their stonewalling and mindless dedication to schedule produced the death of a crew and the loss of a multi-billion dollar vehicle. In some other case, it could be an engineer who used the wrong unit system or an engineer that pendantically freeted over an issue that ultimately wasn't that important.

    The lesson is to seek balance. And of course, even when you have balance you will have failures. Unfortunatly, for NASA, their failures are always VERY unforgiving.

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