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U.S. Funds Anonymizer for Iranians

SiliconEntity writes "British online rag The Register is reporting that the U.S. Government is funding anonymizer.com to provide anonymous browsing services to Iranians. Using U.S. funding, the company created a special version of its anonymizing proxy which has instructions in Farsi and only accepts connections from Iranian IP addresses. The service defaults to the Voice of America web site, but users can input any address and browse free of (Iranian) government censorship."

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  1. It's understandable by mao+che+minh · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I would imagine that there will be a widespread knee-jerk reaction across America to this news. Afterall, our government is using tax dollars to deliver privacy and freedom to a member nation of the "Axis of Evil". I, however, do not mind one bit: You have to capture the hearts and minds of the people that your enemies hold sway over. You know full well that a government such as the one in Iran is doing everything possible to spread lies about the West. If the people remain closed we could end up with a populace similar to North Korea. Those feelings will be passed along to successive generations, and perhaps some day in the distant future, could lead to war - or worse.

    Propaganda both prevents and wins wars. Propaganda can serve as a tool of persuasion in trying political struggles between two or more nations. In the case of Iran, it is imperative that we win a large portion of mindshare to use as security in the future. For it would seem that the possibility of armed conflict with Iran is a reality, and we should do what we can to avoid it, considering the implications of such a thing.

    1. Re:It's understandable by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I don't mind it at all...

      I do fine it ironic and irritating, though, that our own country (US) doesn't seem to like for us to do the same...trying to pass laws where anonymity, or falsifying online id in order to hide ones identity...

      If its good enough for US to pay for them to do it...should be open and good enough for us to use it in all our communications.

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    2. Re:It's understandable by garcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

      eh.

      First of all, they want us here in the US to abide by their bullshit (DMCA and the two sons of Satan (Patriot I and II)) yet we are in another country blasting radio stations and FUNDING (at an undisclosed amount) a free proxy to *circumvent* another countries security. We should put the government in jail for violating the DMCA.

      Second, we shouldn't be funding shit (not Iraq, not free proxies for Iran, nothing), we should be funding the fucking Americans without jobs (I don't know if /. has heard about the ever increasing length of the food lines in more rural areas of Ohio, etc).

      Third, I wasn't aware that we were back in the 1950s and 1960s where we feel the need to stop the possibility of the spread of communism, I mean the threat of terrorism. I get those ism's confused.

      Let's fucking work on freeing our own country first TYVM. I would PREFER that our own people are fed, clothed, covered, and paid, rather than worrying about 10s of billions of dollars being sent overseas to countries that (for the most part) don't want us there.

      Remember who is funding this funding.

    3. Re:It's understandable by ncc74656 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I would imagine that there will be a widespread knee-jerk reaction across America to this news. Afterall, our government is using tax dollars to deliver privacy and freedom to a member nation of the "Axis of Evil". I, however, do not mind one bit...

      I think it demonstrates that we have no quarrel with the people of Iran. It's the regime whose jackboot they're under with which we take issue. With access to outside news/information sources, maybe a few of them will learn that (1) we're not the Great Satan the ayatollahs told them about and (2) maybe they'll give the ayatollahs the heave-ho and make available to themselves the choice to live in the 21st century instead of the 13th.

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    4. Re:It's understandable by Sphere1952 · · Score: 4, Interesting


      I've been watching Iran long enough to know that the parent is correct. the 65%+ of the population who are under 30 have no use for their government at all. The joke at the beginning of the Iraq war was "Good, we're next."

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    5. Re:It's understandable by Vlad_the_Inhaler · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It should be quite easy to avoid war with Iran - simply don't invade.

      Saddam Hussein is a homicidal maniac, but he was bending over backwards to avoid war - doing all he could to comply with UN demands. The trouble was, the US and Britain were not prepared to consider any outcome other than war. A war which killed tens of thousands while doing damage which Paul Bremer indicated a couple of days ago, was almost impossible to overestimate. Now countries which see themselves as threatened by the US know that behaving rationally will get them nowhere. The way to go is to accumulate nukes and point them at an ally of the US. At the time, I thought the N Koreans were insane. It took time to work out what they were up to.

      To go back on-topic, it is rather ironical that the US is against anonymous browsing at home (or have I got that one wrong?) but supportive when it can cause other people trouble.

      So what is the next stage? Given a proxy web-server in Iran (is there one there?), surfers in other countries can also make use of this service. Iran is a semi-open country nowadays, there won't be a similar service available in N Korea any time soon for obvious reasons.

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    6. Re :It's understandable by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Funny


      > I don't mind it at all...

      > I do fine it ironic and irritating, though, that our own country (US) doesn't seem to like for us to do the same...trying to pass laws where anonymity, or falsifying online id in order to hide ones identity...

      > If its good enough for US to pay for them to do it...should be open and good enough for us to use it in all our communications.

      As Jay Leno said about the US plan for Iraq (paraphrasing) -

      We're going to fix them up with fair elections, good education, and sound healthcare.

      And if it works for them we'll try it over here too.
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    7. Re:It's understandable by Valdrax · · Score: 4, Funny

      [W]e should be funding the fucking Americans without jobs ...

      Now, now. The current administration's new "Fucking Americans Without Jobs" initiative has been doing quite well for itself.

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    8. Re:It's understandable by HeghmoH · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Saddam Hussein is a homicidal maniac, but he was bending over backwards to avoid war - doing all he could to comply with UN demands.

      Playing shell games with inspectors and flagrantly violating UN resolutions for ten years is "bending over backwards"?

      The trouble was, the US and Britain were not prepared to consider any outcome other than war. A war which killed tens of thousands while doing damage which Paul Bremer indicated a couple of days ago, was almost impossible to overestimate.

      I'll overestimate it for you: the world was destroyed, and everyone died. There that wasn't so hard, you see?

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    9. Re:It's understandable by HeghmoH · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Are you deliberately trying to be obtuse?

      Various UN resolutions were passed regarding Iraq, and weapons inspectors were sent there.

      Iraq continually violated those resolutions and was as uncooperative with the inspectors as it felt it could get away with without provoking another war.

      Iraq at the present moment does not appear to posess WMDs.

      Those three statements can logically exist together in the same universe without any self-contradictions.

      It seems to me that you're like most anti-Bush fanatics out there, trying to paint anyone who disagrees with you as a pro-Bush fanatic. That's wrong; I can disagree with you and him at the same time. The fact that Bush was wrong about WMDs and lied in his case for war does not change the fact that Iraq was extremely uncooperative in every way with the UN and with the weapons inspectors. Are you capable of understanding this?

      If you respond to this post, please try arguing with the points and opinions I have actually expressed, rather than the points and opinions you imagine I should hold.

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  2. freedom as tool by gokubi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why does our government work for the freedom of others, while chipping away at ours daily? Has freedom been reduced to a tool to pry open restrictive regimes to the point where our system can rush in and clamp things down in the "correctly" restrictive ways?

    sigh.

    -sarcasm-

    And now that our tax dollars are being used to allow members of a radical Islamic regime (one that harbors terrorists and has WMDs) to anonymously look at all the bomb plans burried in steganographied images on eBay, aren't we opening ourselves up for more terror?

    -/sarcasm-

    Makes you wonder if anyone believes that Axis of Evil crap.

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    1. Re:freedom as tool by phliar · · Score: 5, Funny
      Why does our government work for the freedom of others, while chipping away at ours daily?
      Well, where do you think that freedom we export comes from? It doesn't just grow on trees you know!
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  3. Awesome! by Lane.exe · · Score: 5, Insightful
    So potential Iranian terrorists can now go snooping around the net anonymously while the average American citizen is liable to be scrutinized by John Ashcroft... all courtesy of the American government! I'm so glad I live in a world that makes sense!

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  4. When will Americans need it for copyright? by Thinkit3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If a country decides to abolish copyright, we'll be forced to block all traffic, right? So we'll be the ones needing anti-censorship proxies then.

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  5. Fight the system. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Could some Iranian please set up a proxy so that we can bounce back and use anonymizer for free. Thanks :-)

  6. Topsy Turvy. by Malcontent · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The US is going to institute a national health care program for Iraq, a nationalized educational system for iraq, govt controlled water and power monopolies for Iraq, anonymous surfing for the Iranians.

    How come these things are not good enough for US

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  7. Dancing with the devil by lildogie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It amuses me that, while anonymizers would likely be condemned as a tool of terrorism by the National Security State in the US, the same spooks use anonymizers as a weapon against their counterparts of old Iraq.

    On second thought, it depresses me.

  8. Iran...view from a Barskahye by Shant3030 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Some interesting observances about Iran:

    In the late 70's, students were protesting the overthrow of the Shah because he was corrupt, pro-West, etc.

    Now, in Iran, the children of the students who were protesting in the 70's, are the same people who are protesting against the corrupt Ayatollah and his cronies. The students as well as the majority middle class is aching for Western reforms. They overthrew the shah because he was corrupt, but only a handful of the government owns the majority of the wealth in the country. Essentially, they have turned into a socialist nation and the people are fed up.

    It is only a matter of time they will be a more moderate nation again, sharing with the world the beauty of the nation. The US's persistent feeding of western ideas is only fueling a fire of revolution that the Iranian people (sidenote: being of Persian-Armenian descent, we hate referring to ourselves as Iranians, sounds so 1980...) will take part in.

    What does this have to do with the /. post, probably very little... Just wanted to throw in my two cents about Iran.

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  9. Re:What about China? by Shenkerian · · Score: 4, Informative
    This comment isn't interesting; it's ignorant. From the article:

    The service is similar to one Anonymizer provided to Chinese citizens under a previous government contract that ran-out ended earlier this year.

    Cottrell and Berman agree that it's only a matter of time before the Iranonymity service winds on the official blacklist. But Berman hints that the U.S. is ready for a prolonged electronic shell game with Tehran. "In China we're continually monitoring the state of the proxy, and when we see the traffic drop off, we change the proxy's address, usually within 24 hours," says Berman.

    RTFA.

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  10. So let me get this straight... by lightspawn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Thanks to the U.S. government, Iranians can now view material blocked in U.S. libraries after being categorized by a private company as violence/profanity, alcohol/tobacco/drug related, satanic, sexual, or otherwise containing information which may be considered harmful or offensive?

    Why are Iranians entitled to view more of the web then Americans?

  11. Re:We are past this point with China by leviramsey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Bzzt. Wrong.

    If anything the Chinese were pulling for us in Vietnam. Who was the next country to declare war on the Chinese after the US? That's right, it was the PRC.

    People have this illusion that the various Marxist nations were lovey-dovey as part of the quest for International Socialism. The reality is that, while most were Soviet satellites, the Chinese were displeased with the USSR for a long time. There are dozens of recorded instances of territorial infractions, shots fired, and planes shot down between the PRC and the USSR. The Chinese basically took a neutral position on the issue of a NATO vs. Warsaw Pact war; their hope was that both sides would nuke each other into cinders.

  12. hmm anonymizers are not so anonymous by jilles · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Last week a Dutch guy was caught who bribed a producer of yoghurt products. He threatened to poison products that were placed in the super market and as a demonstration placed a few poisoned products in a supermarket.

    He used a US based anonymiser service to cover up his contacts with the police. He was caught because the anonymizer sevice in question happily cooperated with the legal forces, after some pressure from the dutch police and their US counterparts.

    I don't approve of this guy's actions. He actually poisoned someone (who survived) with his actions. Apparently he actually tried out the poison on his goat to make sure the stuff wouldn't kill anyone. However it's a clear demonstration that anonymizers are just as anonymous as the FBI/CIA wants them to be. Anyone using the anonymizer.com services can be sure someone is watching what they do.

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  13. Land of the free? by ChaoticCoyote · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let me get this straight -- if I go to a public library, my browsing is censored by mandate of the U.S. government (unless the librarians are rebels, of course).

    But an Iranian can browse the web free of government-imposed censorship?

    Aarrrgggghhhhhh!

    Actually, the dichotomy makes sense: the U.S. government wants to control its own populace while mucking about in the politics of other countries. The U.S. government doesn't care about the freedoms of the Iranian people; it just wants to undermine the Iranian government.

    Well, I hope those Iranians enjoy their freedom now; as soon as the U.S. trumps up enough false data to "liberate" Iran, they'll be in the same boat we are in terms of censorship and spying.

    "May you live in interesting times", indeed.

  14. Double standard by Baki · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As much as I think Iranians deserve privacy and personal freedom, I think it is incredibly hypocrit that the USA is doing this, against the will of another government, while at the same time it is bullying around individuals denying them other freedoms and privacy.

    When it comes to so called economic self interests, nothing goes too far, such as procesuting russians for violating absurd laws such as the DMCA, allowing industry lobby groups such as the RIAA to deny people the right to share files and make personal copies, removing the right to reverse engineer, removing the right to invent because of software patents (which it is trying to push through worldwide).

    In short: the USA government also is restricting a lot of people (their own and elsewhere), not representing the people (as should be in a democracy) but instead representing those who have the money to bribe the politicians and to buy laws.

  15. Re:Hell yeah... by mentin · · Score: 5, Funny

    After U.S. goverment approved so-called "Patriot Act" which allows it to spy what you write in your e-mails, what you read in a library, ...
    I'm waiting for Iranian goverment to fund Anonymiser for U.S. citisens so they can browse the Web anonymously without fear of being spied by U.S. goverment.

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