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Statistically Optimal Music

ShinyPlasticBag writes "'Eigenradio makes its optimal music by analyzing in real time dozens of radio stations at once. When our bank of computers has heard enough music, it will go to work on making more just like it. Since we listen to so much music all the time, Eigenradio is always on and always live. What you hear on Eigenradio is the best of the New Music, distilled and de-correlated. One song on Eigenradio is worth at least twenty songs on old radio.' Listen up here or here (SHOUTcast)."

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  1. John Cage by chocolatetrumpet · · Score: 2, Informative

    Those of you enjoying these ideas might want to check out John Cage's wonderful video, I have nothing to say and I am saying it.

    John Cage was a revolutionary philosopher-artist-composer with some good ideas on how to be happy :-) In many ways he has incorporated Eastern thinking into Western arts.

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  2. Peercast to avoid the Slashdotting? by Kaimelar · · Score: 3, Informative

    This idea has sparked my interest, but the streams are most definately Slashdotted. Would it be possible for someone who has the stream to use Peercast to help take some of the burden off the server?

  3. Re:Interesting name... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ever heard of an Eigenvector?

    eigenvector

    A vector which, when acted on by a particular
    linear transformation, produces a scalar multiple of the
    original vector. The scalar in question is called the
    eigenvalue corresponding to this eigenvector.

    It should be noted that "vector" here means "element of a
    vector space" which can include many mathematical entities.
    Ordinary vectors are elements of a vector space, and
    multiplication by a matrix is a linear transformation on
    them; smooth functions "are vectors", and many partial
    differential operators are linear transformations on the space
    of such functions; quantum-mechanical states "are vectors",
    and observables are linear transformations on the state
    space.

    An important theorem says, roughly, that certain linear
    transformations have enough eigenvectors that they form a
    basis of the whole vector states. This is why Fourier
    analysis works, and why in quantum mechanics every state is a
    superposition of eigenstates of observables.

    An eigenvector is a (representative member of a) fixed point
    of the map on the projective plane induced by a linear
    map.

  4. patient alternative by hitchhacker · · Score: 1, Informative

    For others unable to listen to eigenradio because of the slashdot effect. I recommend groove salad until things calm down:

    www.somafm.com
    128k
    56k
    24k

    The DJ, Rusty Hodge, had an interview with slashdot a while back.
    enjoy

    -metric

  5. M3U by yerricde · · Score: 3, Informative

    M3U is a text file containing a newline-delimited list of resource identifiers from which to stream audio or video. They can be URIs or local paths. XMMS, Winamp, and many other popular media players can handle M3U files; some save their playlists in this format.

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  6. Re:Interesting name... by adrianbaugh · · Score: 5, Informative

    Eigen is a fairly well-established prefix in quantum mechanics (eigenvalues, eigenvectors, eigenstates etc.) An eigenstate is one of an infinite set of orthogonal solutions to a set of equations, an eigenvalue is a unique value (often energy) corresponding to a particular eigenstate. Thus I suspect in this case the term is supposed to mean something like "unique radio", which seems at least reasonably appropriate, if rather skewed. I suspect you're wrong about it being a comment on the state of the music industry, at least primarily. It seems like they're just using radio stations as a source of material 'cos it happens to be readily available. 'Course, the fact that it can't be much /worse/ than commercial radio is pretty ironic ;-)

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  7. Re:video by KillerHamster · · Score: 3, Informative

    You could call it "AutoPr0n."

  8. Um.. It's a joke. Get it? by monk · · Score: 2, Informative

    The diagrams aren't intended to say anything, they're eye-noise just like the music is ear-noise. You're critiquing the ketchup stains on the table.

    If you need anymore clues we're here for ya, buddy.

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  9. Re:Interesting name... by phliar · · Score: 5, Informative
    "Eigen" in german means "essence of", "characteristic", "similar" etc. The term comes from linear algebra, not quantum mechanics. If x is a vector and A is an operator, and A x (A applied to x) has the same direction as x, then x is an eigenvector of A. For example, if the operation is "reflect in the xy plane", then any vector parallel to the z-axis is an eigenvector of the operator. The scalar that x gets scaled by is called its eigenvalue. For the reflection operator, -1 is the eigenvalue for any eigenvector. QM extended this concept to other objects like states.

    So the term eigenmusic could be used to describe the underlying defining characteristic of a music. You could say that all Britney Spears' music has the same eigenmusic.

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  10. Re:Where are the details? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    See the publication section at: http://web.media.mit.edu/~bwhitman/

  11. Re:Worst designed web site ever... by yarisbandit · · Score: 2, Informative

    Er, it is cool - i have one.

    It's called the Typhoon magic ball mouse or the 8D scroll ball mouse, and I picked it up for a tenner or so (euro) in Lidl.

    Usb too (not 2, i mean aswell...) There's bound to be others, but this one is the finest cheapest one money can buy :)

  12. Re:Wow! by hyfe · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually..

    PCA = Principal Component Analyses.. in essence it draws reduces the number of variables in a dataset by making up totally new ones... so in essence its just a simplification of their input.

    As to what the others are, I'm sure there are somebody here with more than my extremely meager signal processing knowledge:

    ACB = No clue
    DTW = Dynamic Time Warping
    NMF = Non-negative Matrix Factorization

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  13. wonderful organized noise is good, try Aphex Twin by gasgesgos · · Score: 3, Informative

    Aphex Twin's music has done this for me. At first it just sounds like crappy noise randomly generated, but then you just "get it"...

    Aphex Twin's music spans all forms of electronic music, Selected Ambient Works Vol. 2 is an incredibly WONDERFUL bedtime album, while Drukqs is a great album while working... There's something about the almost chaotic aspect of it that keeps my mind focused.

    It's tough to go back to listening to mainstream radio after experiencing music that changes a person's perspective.

    To anyone who ignores/avoids ambient music, or music like most of the Aphex Twin library, I give the same advice, just keep listening, and wait... Eventually, it'll just click, and you win.

  14. Bit Torrent Mirror Up by arctan1701 · · Score: 2, Informative

    here are two sample mp3's from when i could access the servers. i'll keep the torrents up for a couple of hours or until the server dies...

    .zip of two .torrent files

  15. Re:The RIAA? by moncyb · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's an urban legend. Any usage of samples violates copyright law if not approved ahead of time by the copyright holder.

    IANAL, but I'm sure this is wrong. While it is probably true you can't use samples in the way mentioned in the article without permission, there is such a thing as fair use. You can have a small sample for the purposes of commenting on something. Say you were writing an article about reverse speech, and you swear you hear "Ah babe, as I make love" in a song called Foolish Beat by some singer named Debbie Gibson, it would probably be okay to include the specific part of the song as a sample, though the law doesn't seem to be specific here, and the RIAA might try to sue you anyway. (Just because they're legally wrong doesn't stop the RIAA.)

    Commenting is one of the major purposes of fair use: to enable fair speech and help uphold the "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts" clause in the Constitution. The government isn't promoting science if scientists are restricted on how they write papers on a certain subject just because something they're illustrating is copyrighted. Similar clauses about encryption research were in the DMCA, but as usual, the RIAA ignored them. Copyright was intended to allow people to make money off their works, not restrict others from talking about those works.

    The real FUD about fair use is spread by the "all music is free" crowd and the RIAA. The "all music is free" crowd insist it's fair use to just give away the entire song as long as you don't charge for it. Obviously false. Part of the test for fair use is the economic impact of the copying. At least some of the people would have bought the work but didn't because they got it for free. (Though the RIAA tries to overbloat this and say every copy adversely affects their sales. Even "RAM buffer copies", copies which just sit on a hard drive and never get listened too, even copies downloaded by some teenager who couldn't afford a single CD, even other songs which have a similar name to an RIAA one.) The RIAA says there is no such thing as fair use. Obviously false too. If it were true, there wouldn't be a section in Federal Law about fair use at all.