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Slashdot Google Bombers?
muirhead asks: "As a proud new dad, I made a web site to share some baby photos. Having seen this article about Google Bombing, I gave it a go and posted comments to Slashdot, Newsforge, Kuro5hin and LinuxWorld. Some of the pages have a high enough PageRank to show up as links into my site. Now, there are quite a few phrases that I can tell folk to google, and know my site will show top of the list. My favourites are Ruby Orange and Mutley Sleeps, but of course, I want more. What other free sites and means do you know of that I can use to further increase the visibility of my website?"
You could submit it as a story to Slashdot.
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Why can't you just give a URL out to your friends? Why would you want to publicize a site which will only be of interest to people you know AND sick perverts that want to look at your child in a much different way than you intended? I understand the desire to share pictures of your new child with family and friends but you might want to reconsider sharing it with the whole world. If I were to create a Internet photo album, I would keep it low-key. Why pay bandwidth bills so strangers can look at your kid?
I hate liberals. If you are a liberal, do not reply.
This guy has done pretty well, why don't you check out the secret to his success?
C:\>
That's it, I'm leaving slashing permanently! I can't believe this post made it here.
/etc/hosts and never coming back.
I'm adding "127.0.0.1 slashdot.org" to my
Why rely on google? You could always SPAM everyone about your site!
One future, two choices. Oppose them or let them destroy us.
Since you are obviously unfit to breed, one could only hope your filthy seed will be unable to reproduce. Too bad it wasn't born with a hairlip, which would indicate its decidedly inferior genetic crop. Maybe it has at least a weak chin to indicate its lact of breeding.
Good luck on elementary education, and here's to ruining the one thing that could POSSIBLY lend some sense to the modern internet. I hope your testicles are crushed in a vice...
Sincerely,
Andrewski
The best way to drive more traffic to your site is to make more interesting and original content.
I know, I know, most of the posts have been unhelpful thus far.. But I have to ask, should they be? We rely on Google as a tool for relevance for specific searchs, and "Google Bombing," as it so blatantly suggests, undermines this. If you site is good and relevant, it should rise to the top without any such techniques. If it doesn't.. It probably isn't relevant to the searches.
Sorry for going off on this, but Google is a touchy subject for me lots of others - mainly 'cause other things suck. =)
This statement is false.
What's wrong with the editors today? Hello?
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"Dear Slashdot, can you please advise me on how to more effectively screw over one of the few remaining useful resources? Yours, Johnny Spammer".
Between this and the regular ocurrence of "does anyone know how I can promote my new shareware, LameView" I'm beginning to wonder if there's a dialog box I'm missing where I can type in my credit card details when submitting a story.
Fucking hell. Read it, at the top, under the logo
"Stuff that matters"
Not
"Shit marketing resources for lamers"
Dave
I write a blog now, you should be afraid.
I've got 2 words for you, one guess on what they are...
"1984" was ment to be a warning, not a guidebook. You hear that Kim Jong-il!? BushCo?!
First, why is this on /. ?
/. ?
;)
Second, this is really lame. Why do you want to bomb the engines for your baby site? Who really is looking for it when they search with those keywords?
Third, why in the world is this on
Maybe this will finally break my slashdot addiction
Time you spend being a good dad will have a more positive effect on the child than maximizing your web site hits.
Not that it'll do much good, but foe these bitch-asses up!
"1984" was ment to be a warning, not a guidebook. You hear that Kim Jong-il!? BushCo?!
For everyone to pick their favorite spam email sender and sign up his posted email address?
puppydog@mutley.uklinux.net
How to $hamele$$y plug your <spam/"shareware"/casino/pr0n/...> website for in$tant $$$$$$$$^H^H^H^H^H!!!
All the devious tricks revealed by a website with over half a million users in one easy to access place.
!!!
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So much to do, so little bandwidth.
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Now why would anyone do such a thing...
Gothfare
uh... ignore that
I fear nothing but my government. Vote Libertarian.
As a proud new dad,
How ca you reproduce? You are a slashdot nerd, you kopw they don't have sex! Well, at least not now that you have a kid to keep you up all night whining and crying.
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Please tell us what specific information you were seeking. Also tell us why you were dissatisfied with the search results. Lession for today: Screw the system (esp. the good system) and be screwed by its supporters.
Go ahead and fuck up google's search results even more to make it worse for those of us that actually use it to look up things that are useful.
Why can't you just give your friends a URL like most normal people would? Hey, while your at it, you should just buy one of those cd's with millions of addresses on it, and then send a mass mailing telling everyone what to google for to find your site.
Idiot.
Click here to add this guy to your Foes list.
How did this ever make the frontpage of Slashdot? Thanks for helping screw up the one decent search engine, jackass.
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Man some of the comments posted here are pretty angry. I can't wait to see the fury tomorrow when Michael dupes this Ask Slashdot submission!
... I just put something in my .sig and left it at that.
Oh, and I put up some baby pics in my cube.
I'm sure your little one is cute, but I don't walk around inflicting my family photos on random strangers, and you shouldn't either.
And to the guy who keeps posting that people with families aren't actual Slashdot readers: Married ten years, daughter is two and a half. And I call myself Moody Loner. If there's hope for me, there's hope for anybody.
No Longer a Menace to Society.
Alexandria Morrigan born 2/22/01 l. 20.5in wt. 7 lbs. 5 oz.
Alright, I REALLY hate the fact that I'm starting to sound like those 80 year olds sitting on the porch of the retirement home kvetching about how it used to be in "The Good Old Days", but...
I remember a better time - A long time ago - when the SPAM content of my inbox was GUARANTEED to be less than the archive of legit mail I have piled up. - Now, in the last 5 days I have 507 bits of spam, and 307 "archived" real mails sitting in my inbox awaiting (eventual) sorting into categories.
But, far more on topic (or off depending on your point of view), I remember back when search engines were useful because their content was guaranteed to be SOMEWHAT relevant to what you searched for.
Yes, I know they were never perfect. You could search for Reddywhip, innocently hoping to get a site about whipped cream and inadvertently wind up at reddywhip.org (not your intended destination I'm sure), but now with the clutter from blogs that don't have the common sense to have a NOINDEX in their META tags or an appropriate robots.txt file, the damn things are becoming saturated with CRAP! Add to this the result of "googlebombing" (admittedly a much smaller effect, but still something that gets noticed - obviously or it wouldnt be done) and things are really starting to get out of control.
Honestly, "nerds" should know better than to abuse search engines like this, and slashdot editors should know better than to post stories like this one - where the only "nerdly" bit is the link to the googlebombing article - itself already a story on slashdot (one with a great deal of merit in and of itself) - which will only serve to encourage more googlebombing and further degrade the quality of search results.
Moderators: Go ahead, I know it's offtopic, but this kind of stuff SERIOUSLY pisses me off. Nothing personal against Clif & his article selection, I happen to like some of his articles, but this one just serves to inflame an already bad situation.
/~mikeg
Forget all this high tech stuff, talk to Suze and get something 'revealing' posted in your gallery.
No, seriously...
If you want to vastly increase web traffic to your site, I suggest that you post more naked pictures of your wife. Also, add some click-through disclaimers and pop-ups, so people know they're getting the *really* good stuff. Also, enter into some mutually beneficial advertising partnerships with any other similar sites.
And if all that doesn't work, then go to a high-profile event, and kill the speaker and yourself. Don't forget to leave a suicide note with the URL to your website; it'll be in major newspapers everywhere!
Thanks for providing the insight into that which is "Google Metamod."
Don't like the results of the dweebs Google Bombing?
Follow these links and report the PageRank manipulation:
Google Quality Form : Ruby Orange
Google Quality Form : Grumpy Watkins
Google Quality Form : Mutley Sleeps
Google Quality Form : Uncle Philip
Be sure to cite www.mutley.uklinux.net
and
This story.
We could simply do something like this and let Google's engine spider it:
(c'mon Mods! HELP!)
Ruby Orange Grumpy Watkins Mutley Sleeps Uncle Philip Ruby Orange Grumpy Watkins Mutley Sleeps Uncle Philip Grumpy Watkins
Obligatory Different Link Mutley Sleeps Uncle Philip Ruby Orange Grumpy Watkins Mutley Sleeps Uncle Philip Ruby Orange Ruby Orange Grumpy Watkins Mutley Sleeps Uncle Philip Ruby Orange Grumpy Watkins Mutley Sleeps Uncle Philip Grumpy Watkins
Obligatory Different Link Mutley Sleeps Uncle Philip Ruby Orange Grumpy Watkins Mutley Sleeps Uncle Philip Ruby Orange Ruby Orange Grumpy Watkins Mutley Sleeps Uncle Philip Ruby Orange Grumpy Watkins Mutley Sleeps Uncle Philip Grumpy Watkins
Obligatory Different Link Mutley Sleeps Uncle Philip Ruby Orange Grumpy Watkins Mutley Sleeps Uncle Philip Ruby Orange Ruby Orange Grumpy Watkins Mutley Sleeps Uncle Philip Ruby Orange Grumpy Watkins Mutley Sleeps Uncle Philip Grumpy Watkins
Obligatory Different Link Mutley Sleeps Uncle Philip Ruby Orange Grumpy Watkins Mutley Sleeps Uncle Philip Ruby Orange Ruby Orange Grumpy Watkins Mutley Sleeps Uncle Philip Ruby Orange Grumpy Watkins Mutley Sleeps Uncle Philip Grumpy Watkins
Obligatory Different Link Mutley Sleeps Uncle Philip Ruby Orange Grumpy Watkins Mutley Sleeps Uncle Philip
All right, we should all clap and move on. This may be the single most impressive Slashdot Troll Story I've ever seen (the first, of course, being the hillarious take on the goat.cx link).
You successfully managed to get a story posted that:
* has nothing to do with nerds
* Is a meta-joke (the fact that you have a story up at all means that there is no question)
* contains obvious and highly visible links to a crappy personal webpage of pictures
* contains a direct plea to Slashdot to assist in spamming.
* was posted from an account that wasn't built up at all with legitimate postings, but had been used for just trolling.
So, I say we should clap momentarily and move on. I suspect that many trolls have tried over the years, but pulling the wool so completely over editors' eyes cannot possibly be easy.
May we never see th
"dynamic DNS"
:))
TZO will sell you a cheap domain name that can be associated with your ever-changing DHCP address.
Earlier this year TZO came out with a bundled webserver that has a photo-gallery built in. It's limited but very easy to use. Plus you can feel secure knowing you're not running Microsoft IIS server
They also have clients for Linux, and a bunch of languages and platforms I didn't think anyone used anymore.
If this becomes common, Google will have to continuously modify their page rank system. At least it'll funnel research into mining complex data systems.
Simple: provide good content that other people are interested in. The better and/or unique your content, the higher your visibility. Remember: visibility != number of hits.
Other question: why do you want more traffic? Just to have a higher hit count? Except if you are hosting a number of paying web-advertizements, I don't see any benefit in that.
Google bombing is a co-ordinated attack to increase rankings, usually by blogging. It requires many different sites. Simply posting comments to websites with your website in your .sig or something isn't 'bombing'.
Try posting your website to relevant Usenet groups to increase exposure. http://groups.google.com
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That Jeannie chick is hot man. can I have her number? I mena you already posted her image to tens of strangers, might as well post her phone number. She might get some action too.
I can't believe your favourites are 'Ruby Orange' or 'Mutley Sleeps'. If I was you, I'd definately be telling people to google for the Tit Tree
Dang.
HURD - Hurd's Under Research & Development
Seriously, Taco, can we start modding stories? I would gladly give all 5 of my moderator points for the chance to z0t stories like this. It's amazing that someone managed to post a "-1: Offtopic", "-1: Troll" and "-1: Flamebait" story all in one.
--trb
Among the bellowing "I can't believe this made it to the front page" trumpeters, I'd like to issue the clarion call of a "Congrats!". Fatherhood is something to be proud of!
- Sometimes you're the pidgeon, sometimes you're the statue.
Moderators are clearly not reading the moderation faq.
This comment is either:
"+0 Normal"
"+1 Underrated"
"-1 Overrated"
"-1 Offtopic"
"+1 Funny"
or
"-1 Flamebait"
It's not "-1 Troll." It may be a hostile way to solve something (in the poster's mind), hence the validity of the Flamebait mod (ie. BAITING for FLAMES), but there's no information that has been falsified (Re: BSD is dying...), no hot grits, no GNAA... It even warned you of the goatse.cx link in the title. It simply gave an example of how Google's page ranking system could be used to poision the already manipulated search phrases.
holy crap! and this guy is totally unrepentant too!
do the right thing and add this assclown to your foes list RIGHT NOW!
I agree with many of the critical comments, but I'll try to be somewhat helpful anyway. Here's my advice:
Get the kid a good domain name. Ideally "[firstname][lastname].com".
Then, set up the web site on that domain name. It is perfectly legitimate to email pictures to your *friends*. But I doubt anyone outside of your address book really cares.
The memorable domain name will help *interested* users remember the URL, so they won't even need to go to Google to search for it.
The domain name will also come as close as possible to guaranteeing that the kid will have a permanent email address for life, provided that the domain name is renewed annually.
The domain name may even help search engine ratings, if search engines are smart enough to take "www.[something].com" more seriously than "www.[something].uklinux.net".
You know you're a geek when you name your daughter after a programming language..
were you expecting to see a sig here? perhaps you'd rather see the inside of an ambulance!
Let me help your visitors out: Ruby Orange and Mutley Sleeps
Title says it all.....
For the ignorant....
www.nambla1.de
LOOSER!
QueenB
HDGary secures my bank
..that you think you've accomplished something with all this. When you're old and dying, are you going to list this as a great triumph?
"For one glorious month in later summer 2003, I had the search phrase 'ruby orange' locked down on google. It was my proudest moment!"
I bet your wife is really happy that you're bothering with this and not changing diapers and doing other proper father things.
Ask Slashdot: How do I get moderators to like me?
... or going with the theme of destroying a public commons instead of being attention-starved ...
Ask Slashdot: How does one get on national TV?
Ask Slashdot: Gimme Attention! NOW!
Ask Slashdot: PC dumping-friendly states?
Ask Slashdot: Cheap ways to set up a 10 kW ham radio antenna?
Ask Slashdot: Hacking ILECs for better bandwidth?
But really, I don't think you can top this question for both sad, pathetic attention cravings and deliberate attempts to ruin a public resource combined together. I can try, though...
Ask Slashdot: Using USENET to advertise my webcam site?
If it's for-profit but free, you're not the customer -- you're the product (e.g., the Slashdot Beta's "audience").
Many have said that the story shouldn't have been posted, but what if the point of posting was to make a public example of the flamage you get for google-bombing?
I mod down anyone who says "I will be modded down for this", regardless of the rest of their comment
i know this is -1 flamebait but I don't care: reality check, no one gives a damn about your baby. Your friends and family might, so register a simple domain and give them the url, but don't force the rest of us. Hundreds of thousands of babies are born daily, why is yours special? Because it's yours, so you think everyone should care? We don't, and the last thing I want is for your baby's site to pop-up as the first link on google everytime I do a search.
my karma will be here long after I'm gone
PS - how old is Jeannie?
BTW if you read the article's comments do not forget to use the quotation marks when searching for "autistic paraplegic donkey porn" on google. It's a virus ridden smut page. I know I know a lot of you like that kind of thing but...
I am sure this guy isn't trying to spam or ruin Google. This is just an experiment to point out a big problem in Google's PageRank system. Making this work on his baby's site just proves how bad the system can be, not because he wants us all to see his baby.
Your bandwidth bill will be extraordinary, and you will get some perverts looking at your baby with alternative thoughts....
Actually, I just visited your site. Nix that last remark. That baby's do damn ugly that even the most depraved of sick-o's would have only one thing on their mind: nausea. And that family! Fugly fugly fugly! I need image filtering software to prevent me from viewing it!
If thats the case:
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So how many times have you hit Google and clicked the "Google Search" button after having typed,
"I feel like browsing a bunch of photos of people I'll probably never meet in my entire life." ?
Here's a tip: If you drive me to read your material, you are NOT likely to garner a favorable/constructive review.
I'd be willing to read what you've done, but if you trick me into hitting your page, the best you can hope to get is my leaving without crapflooding your guest book. Someone looking for a book review finding your site would be a good thing, probably for all involved, but this is not a desirable reason to Google bomb. This guy wanted the phrase "ruby orange" to point to his page, based on a photo of the kid (named Ruby) having just had her foot dipped in orange paint. For something as simple as a baby photos page, it would probably be cheaper/easier to register a domain name, or even to have a couple hundred cards printed up with a URL. How about creating an emailing list and telling people where to sign up?
I've got a few pages on the web, and several of them are loaded with photos of my son, who will be a year old in three weeks. I haven't plastered his web site all over creation using a method that's just likely to draw tons of strangers in to view them. I tell people I see when I know they'd be interested, and I email or call people that I don't see. As many creeps are on the 'net, I sometimes consider putting passwords on the pages. If I had a daughter like this guy, I'd be nervous to even POST photos at all.
And what about the people who
Google bombing may be a viable tactic in some cases, but this guy needs to find better ways to do what he's doing.
1) get a mac and get a .mac account .mac account
2) take whatever pictures you want
3) import them into iPhoto
4) create an album of photos to share
5) export the album to your
6) profit ?!?! (optional)
Seriously, if sharing your pictures is all you want to do, then this (or something like it) is the way to go.