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FCC Ponders Removing Morse Code Reqs for Amateur Radio Licenses

Nalez writes "This story on the ARRL website outlines six petitions currently in front of the FCC to drop the Morse code requirement for the amateur radio license exams. Currently the ability to do Morse code at 5 words per minute is required to operate on the high frequency bands (below 30Mhz), which are the bands that propagate best around the world." While this may or may not attract more people to ham radio, it will make it easier for the novice to use packet radio devices.

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  1. Oh no! by TheGreek · · Score: 5, Funny

    dah dah dah dit dit dit dit dah dit dah dah dah

  2. About Time by swordboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've been tunneling all my morse code over SSH...

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    1. Re:About Time by spoonist · · Score: 4, Funny
      I've been tunneling all my morse code over SSH...

      Morse over SSH? Big deal. I've been tunneling SSH over morse code for years now!!

      And let me tell you, running vi over SSH over morse code REALLY sucks.

  3. Technician class? by Hayzeus · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think there is no MC requirement already for this type of license, right?

    1. Re:Technician class? by Detritus · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not now. But if you want to operate HF, you still need to pass a 5 WPM morse code test.

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    2. Re:Technician class? by Bagheera · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Wrong.

      Technician class gives you access to all the amature bands "above" (higher freq, shorter wavelength) 6 Meteres and includes the 6 meter band. This also includes the multi GHz bands where things like, say Wireless LAN, live.

      While CW may have dubious value any more for "real world" work, it's still in use by a lot of Hams worldwide, and is one of the best ways to do QRP (low power) work. It takes minimal bandwidth and power to communicate with CW.

      Another thing it does is put up a minimal barrier working the HF bands. While that may seem "lame" to you, it would suck royally to have the Ham bands turn into the CB bands. The 5 WPM requirement is not that hard to achieve, but it at least shows "you" have enough dedication to go through the trouble to actually learn something that didn't just come from a cram session for your test.

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    3. Re:Technician class? by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 4, Insightful
      While CW may have dubious value any more for "real world" work, it's still in use by a lot of Hams worldwide, and is one of the best ways to do QRP (low power) work. It takes minimal bandwidth and power to communicate with CW

      Considering that one of the main justifications for amateur radio is to provide a means of communication when other systems fail, doesn't this mean that keeping a minimal code requirements is good? In an emergency, with limited power, and perhaps cobbled together equipment, something you can send Morse code with is the easiest to get working.

  4. probably too late to save the hobby by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    i'm a ham and never bother turning on my rig anymore. I get much more satisfaction out of computers and the internet.

    1. Re:probably too late to save the hobby by JGaiser · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I have to agree. I've held an Amateur Radio license twice in the past 30 years (WB7RHQ and N7PWF) and in both cases the old farts (and it has nothing to do with age) have ruined whatever interest I might have had.

      I'm truly surprised that this proposal has reached this far. I used to constantly listen to the arguments that Morse Code was a necessary hurdle to prevent the riff-raff from entering the hobby. Morse Code was never a problem for me - I passed 20WPM to graduate from Naval Radioman School in 1966 - but only attempted to use it twice. Good Riddance.

    2. Re:probably too late to save the hobby by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting
      i'm a ham and never bother turning on my rig anymore. I get much more satisfaction out of computers and the internet.

      Ditto. There's just really not any advantage to using it. I only turn on my radio for one weekend a year to help support a volunteer event for emergency medical communications. It would've been nice to chat with people during this past blackout, but alas I'm only a technician class so I need to bounce off a repeater and they were all in disaster mode to save power on battery/generators. If I had HF privileges I could've talked to people outside the blackout area from my car. I have no interest in learning morse code though so that's not an option for me (yet?).

      It also doesn't help that amateur radio is a very elitist medium. The "old timers" treat anyone interested in getting into the field like they're n00bs as much as we would them getting into computers. I wouldn't mind playing around with APRS and packet radio, but it's hard to find any decent info and get help without being treated like a fucking moron.

    3. Re:probably too late to save the hobby by carndearg · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I had my (G7CKF)UK Class B licence, that's the no-morse VHF and above one from the late '80s to the early '90s. And like the original poster I gave it up because I got sick of the old farts.

      At the time the amateur radio community in the UK was run mostly by people who got their G3 licences in the 1950s and spent most of their time sitting on 80M(3.5MHz) talking about their gardens and what they did in tne war. These people were anti anything that they percieved to threaten the way amateur radio had been for them all those years ago (73 OM and all that) and the morse test was a key(sorry:) bastion of their defence against what they saw as an advance of CB-ers into 'their' patch. The fact that most of the code-less licencees (a) really had no interest in HF communications and (b) had never used a CB in their lives obviously escaped them. In fact the class B licencee building 23cm TV gear is a lot closer to the cutting edge than the G3 with his gbp1000 Icom multi-band HF rig.

      So like a lot of licencees in the '90s faced with a load of arrogant and rude old gits on one side and the internet just starting to look interesting on the other I just let my licence lapse and turned to my PC.

      Amateur radio is a warning to the open source movement, I hope we dont see a load of 60-something OS coders in 30 years time excluding a new generation because they perceive that their patch is being encroached upon.

    4. Re:probably too late to save the hobby by JGaiser · · Score: 4, Informative

      Old farts that complained when a group of us brought up Linux/AX.25 networks on packet radio. Because they didn't know/didn't care to learn how to filter out the tcp/ip packets, we were screwing up the dot matrix printers which they used to make running logs.

      Old farts on voice getting upset when you tried to use "their" frequency to do something other than talk about the latest disease/death/perscription.

      There were a lot of helpful and knowledgable men and women in Amateur Radio also, but it just got to be fun dealing with the minority.

    5. Re:probably too late to save the hobby by Wansu · · Score: 4, Insightful


      What do the old farts do that ruins the hobby for new/young people?

      Too many of them are G.D. knowitalls. Others fancy themselves as some sort of emergency officials. I just wanted to chat on 2 meters while I commuted to and from work. I found that unless I got involved with the clubs, upgraded my license and volunteered to work hamfests, Skywarn/EMS/whatever, my welcome wore thin. I lost interest.

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  5. About time! by InterruptDescriptorT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know the old-timers don't want to hear this, but it's really about time that this outdated modulation and transmission scheme no longer be required. They old-timers won't admit it to others, but they know that their hobby isn't growing because of the code requirements.

    Kids these days--the very people you want to get excited about ham radio--have absolutely no interest in pounding the brass, fumbling over the differences between A and N and trying to copy what others have to say via Morse. Remember, they're growing up in a HDTV, 500-channel, broadband Internet world. It's absolutely no surprise that they think sending letters with dits and dahs is draconian. It is.

    Let's give the customary 2-meter and 6-meter privileges to new tickets and push the cutting-edge technologies like PSK31 on the newbies. Show them that ham radio can truly be exciting and modern. But it really is about time the code went the way of the dinosaur. Don't outlaw it--just make it optional.

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    1. Re:About time! by Karamchand · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Perhaps the old-timers don't want their hobby to grow (for example to grow like the internet grew!) Perhaps they want to keep it like it is - rather clean, a bit of the elite-touch.

      And for this to continue there have to be some off-putting requirements. If you want to transmit radio waves without learning anything one should choose citizien band.

      (Apart from the fact that morse code is still one of the most reliable kinds to communicate world wide even under worst conditions)

    2. Re:About time! by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Perhaps the old-timers don't want their hobby to grow (for example to grow like the internet grew!) Perhaps they want to keep it like it is - rather clean, a bit of the elite-touch.

      I hate to break it to the old-timers who have this opinion, but if amateur radio continues to dwindle in users you're not going to have it pretty soon. The government will take away those frequencies and sell them off to the highest bidder for commercial communications. There's already VERY strong support for doing that. I'd be very sad to see that happen which is why I hope that they can do something to increase interest and decrease the amount of meaningless hoops you have to jump through to obtain broadcast privileges on certain bands. I'm not about to take a morse code test, but I'd certainly go learn the extra material required to pass a written test for general or advanced/extra (whatever) license.

  6. The inevitability of it ... sigh by freeio · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We knew that sooner or later this requirement would be removed. Those of us who love CW (Morse Code) still use it, and others will continue to do so, if only because it is simple, it works, and it overcomes real language barriers.

    Still, even though we may love it, it is an anachronism, and the requirement will be dropped, like it or not.

    73
    W4TI

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  7. morse code? by Comsn · · Score: 5, Funny

    whats morse code?

    isint that what they used to stop the aliens in Independance Day?

  8. morse code will always be important! by fermion · · Score: 5, Funny

    We know that even in the distant future, one's survival may depend on embedding a morse coded message in the warp signature or scanning frequency!

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    "She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
  9. Morse code on the cell phone by farnerup · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If I knew morse code, I would like to have a cell phone that understood morse code. I'm sure entering SMS messages would be a lot faster that pressing 1 three times for "c" and so on. The phone would need just a single button!

  10. Clarification .. by peatbakke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Three questions for all you hams:

    - Why was morse code originally required for amatuer radio operators?

    - How often is morse code used today?

    - What advantages does morse code have, vs other forms of radio communication?

    1. Re:Clarification .. by laing · · Score: 5, Interesting

      1: Morse code is the simplest form of modulation that can convey intelligence. You don't need much in the way of circuitry to build a C.W. (continuous wave) transmitter. Ham radio is all about experimentation, do-it-yourself projects, and good will. The easiest way to get on the air is to build a C.W. transmitter.

      2. Morse is still used extensively. Tune around the H.F. CW bands and you'll always hear lots of QSOs going on.

      3. In addition to being a simple form of modulation, Morse is also very good at moving data through low SNR (signal to noise ratio) conditions. It's much easier to discern whether or not there is a C.W. tone present than to try to understand spoken language. Note: There are other digital modes which add FEC (forward error correction) and these are actually even more robust than Morse; but you can't do them without additional equipment. Morse communication can be accomplished without a computer.

  11. support this by Rock+Ridge · · Score: 4, Informative

    An int'l radio body recently dropped the code requirement. This is a good thing, even though I learned code to get a general license when about 13 years old. It was easy for me to learn, but really isn't necessary if the potential licensee wants to experiment with radio -- there are many ways to do that without code: packet radio, rtty, tv, ham satellite, vhf/uhf/shf/ehf.

  12. Re:Morse code dropped only because its a RACIST! by quonsar · · Score: 4, Funny
    few blacks (and many whites) pass the Morse test

    shee-it. cw gots rhythm, honky.

  13. As a kid... by Funksaw · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a kid, I was actually pretty interested in the idea of ham-radio. I loved the idea of communicating worldwide with people. (I suppose that's when the Internet came along, I took to it like a duck to water...) But, honestly, I couldn't get the morse code requirement. The way my brain works, it's hard for me to, well, memorize stuff. Calling it up on command would be even sillier. So I never got into it. Here's the thing though. We have typewriters. We have computers. You can still *use* morse code without *knowing* morse code - simply hook up a computer on your line, type your message, and have the computer encode all of the message to Morse. If one wants to recieve, that can be translated by computer also. Morse is a great transmission type - and great for redundancy in emergencies - but it's hard to learn and use. Instead, why not keep the positives of morse code, while taking away it's negative - it's hard-to-learn status? -- Funksaw

  14. Why Morse? by eriko · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, the historical reasons for morse are many, but the reason for the 5WPM requirement (and it used to much harder -- the top classes required 20WPM) was treaty.

    Long distance HF bands aren't useful, unless everyone agrees what those bands are -- no use having the US hams on 40M, if the UK is using that same band for broadcast. So, the amatuer bands were set by treaty. This treaty also had a morse requirement. However, this year, the World Radiocommuncation Conference, held every so often to review things like this, dropped the code requirements for the HF bands.

    I agree that Morse as a requirement has passed it's time. It is a bandwidth efficent and noise resistant mode -- but there are better now, such as PSK31. I've copied 90% of a PSK31 transmission that was so weak I could barely see it on a waterfall display -- never mind actually hearing it.

    Note that eliminating the Morse code requirement wouldn't eliminate Morse code from the bands. There are segements of the ham bands that are CW only. Those who work with low power (QRP) are very fond of CW morse.

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  15. Re:Restrictions on use of the Ham bands by Detritus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's an issue of national security. There are many countries that would not issue any amateur licenses if encryption was allowed. Although they have more modern toys today, the stereotypical spy used a hidden transmitter to send his reports back to his case officer in encrypted morse code. Amateur radio was shut down completely during World War II due to concerns about espionage. Even today, the more paranoid countries restrict amateur radio to club stations that can be easily monitored for subversive activities. In the worst cases, amateur radio is prohibited and unauthorized possession of radio equipment is considered proof of espionage, resulting in death or imprisonment.

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  16. Re:About time! - what no one has mentioned by kc8kgu · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I am a ham. I have a general class license. I passed the 13wpm exam before the requirements were dropped to 5wmp a few years ago. I just wanted to mentions a few points that no one seems to be making.

    A similar rule change has been made before, and MANY MANY hams felt that it had a negative effect. Around 1989, I believe, the morse code requirement for the technication class license was removed. After that, there was a flood of bad, inconsiderate, and disrespectful new hams. Many of them were CBers who didn't want to take the time and effort to learn the code. It let in the riff raff, more Anonymous Cowards and first posters if you will.

    The are several good reasons why the cw requirement should still kept after all these years. Apologies to Bruce Perens.

    Think of morse code as a candle. Sure, we have lightbulbs, flashlights, glow sticks, and the sun. But, if something bad happens - the lights go out, the flashlights batteries are dead, your out of glowsticks, and its the dead of night, wouldn't it be nice to have a candle. It might be boring, plain, ugly, smelly, near useless in the modern world - but when the s*** hits the fan, you'll be glad you have it.

    It is a good filter. Most people have to really give an effort to learn the code. Not all but some. I studied for a couple of weeks to pass my 5wpm test. I studied a few days for the 13wpm test. Some people claim it takes them years to learn it. Maybe, i don't know. The point is, if you want to just talk to you buddy down the street, you can get a cb for $40 at radio shack and not even think twice about a license. Think of the bad operators as spam. If you had a chance to have a really good spam filter or not, would you take it. Don't get me wrong, not all no coders are bad guys and they should have a chance to use ham radio - and they do. They can get a no code tech license and use frequencies above 30mhz. What this would change is give them frequecies priviledges below 30mhz. These frequences are special because of physics and the ozone in that they can propogate thousands of miles instead of the couple hundred of the uhf (50mhz) freqencies and above.

    History. Morse code and ham radio have been together since the beginning. Its almost disrespectful in my mind to push the code to the wayside. Like putting an old dog down just because he isn't good for fetching the papers anymore.

    Anyway, im fairly confident that cw will be around for a long time after its required. If i had to bet, I would say that the requirement will be dropped. I'd say at least 50 years (hopefully i'll make it to my 80th birthday)

    As an aside, several people have mentioned that the written tests themselves are an appropriate filter. I disagree. All the questions that appear on every test are known in advance. I could teach my 10 year old daughter the answer to the questions without her having a clue what the questions actually mean.