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Gnome 2.4 Release (d)

chendo writes "Gnome 2.4 will be released today. Here is the link to the article on Ars Technica. GNOME 2.4 is the result of quite a bit of work toward complying with the GNOME Human Interface Guidelines (HIG), which mainly focus on user interface consistency and predictability. This release has also undergone some general polish, and it can finally be said that the GNOME 2 platform has achieved maturity with this release. The Epiphany web browser, a major new component of GNOME, also makes its debut with this release. (From Footnotes)"

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  1. Still major usability issues... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    1) Main menu doesn't respond to alphabet keybindings ala IceWM, KDE and Windows 95!

    2) Taskbar doesn't reflect order that programs were started in. It inserts new buttons at random positions.

    GNOME rules, but these two things (among the Metacity wireframe and animation niggles) are real problems. For all the UI work, it's a shame they can't get such elementary stuff right.

    Still, I'll be downloading it tonight :)

  2. It's not out yet. by asobala · · Score: 5, Informative

    When is _is_ out, you'll have all sorts of release notes and screenshots to look at. Slashdot is announcing non-existant releases again :)

  3. Write GnomeVFS modules: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Learn how to use the GnomeVFS library to extend GNOME, enabling drag-and-drop and other features across multiple protocols and file systems. This article gives you what you'll need to extend GNOME and develop your own extensions to the virtual file system.

  4. Re:That's great! Accessibility? by KarmaPolice · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the (f*******) article:
    Gnome 2.4 ships with GOK, an award-winning dynamic onscreen keyboard. It supports Direct Selection, Dwell Selection, Automatic Scanning and Inverse Scanning, and includes word completion. A detailed overview can be found on the GOK website.

    Gnopernicus, the second accessibility application to ship with GNOME, provides a number of assistive technologies for people suffering from visual impairment. Most notably, it includes a screen reader, a screen magnifier and a Braille writer.

  5. Re:That's great! Accessibility? by bahamat · · Score: 5, Informative

    One of the big concessions that I've heard about Windows is that it has a lot of accessibility features that weren't present in other previous GUIs.

    That's actually not true. The X-Windowing-System has come with xmag virtually for ever. High contrast themes are not hard to create. You can make icons and fonts whatever size you want. We've even got sticky keys. The only thing X is missing as far as accessibility is keyboard control of the mouse cursor. Then again, you can always run ratpoison and be rid of the rodent forever.

    You've been lied to my friend.

  6. Wrong logo by asobala · · Score: 4, Informative

    You know, this logo is the really old one. Any chance of slashdot changing it?

  7. Gnome 2.4 Review by the_pooh_experience · · Score: 4, Informative
    So ARS Technica has a fairly in depth review of 2.4. Among other things, it includes:
  8. Re:Browsers... by Jellybob · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's an integration thing... Firebird/Mozilla/whatever else has it's own way of doing windowing, unlike Epiphany, which is GTK2 based, and integrated with the Gnome config options.

  9. Slashdot's GNOME Logo by jdub! · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm kinda surprised that Slashdot haven't updated the GNOME category logo, considering that it's been 18 months and three major releases since the logo change. :-)

  10. Re:That's great! Accessibility? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Try Shift-Numlock, it worked for me for ages

  11. Re:Gnome development outpacing KDE? by BenjyD · · Score: 4, Informative

    Must...not...respond....to....troll...but can't help it

    I lurk on the kde dev mailing lists and the number of changes upcoming in 3.2 is pretty impressive: A lot of new PIM features, the Safari changes to KHTML, speed improvements. KDE is at the stage where new releases are really adding polish rather than making major changes, but there are still a lot of good new things going in.

  12. Re:current gnome 2.x issues (any devels listening? by JanneM · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Gnome-panel bug is a new one for me; filing a bug report would likely be very appreciated by the devels.

    Sawfish: Just run it. There are some people hacking on it, I believe, so it should be maintained. And tell the sawfish devels if there is something you miss.

    The terminal: They are all the same application with multiple windows; cuts down on resource use. Of course, if it dies, so do they all - that's the downside. You can, however, start a new terminal, explicitly stating that it should not be another instance in an existing gnome-terminal application:

    gnome-terminal --disable-factory

    That will give you an independent terminal instance that will not be affected. Of course, you pay by a bit higher total resource use, but that is probably worth it for you.

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  13. Re:...because they predate Firebird... by __past__ · · Score: 4, Informative

    Both Galeon and Epiphany use Gecko, the Mozilla rendering engine. It's unlikely that they are much older than Mozilla itself.

  14. Re:simulating clicks by ThogScully · · Score: 5, Informative

    5 is a button click and and you change what button it is by clicking / for left, * for both, and - for right. + is a double-click. 0 is button hold, . is release.
    -N

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  15. Re:Browsers... by Deusy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Firstly, Gnome is not an X Window Manager.

    Secondly, only two 'desktops' have their own 'integrated' browser; Gnome (Epiphany) and KDE (Konqueror).

    The purpose of the integrated web browser is to provide a default for users, and to provide extra functionality through tight integration with the desktop. Think Internet Explorer in Windows.

    - Imagine if you installed your new Gnome and tried to browse the web, only to find no browser available
    - Epiphany views can be embedded in Nautilus
    - Epiphany strictly follows the HIG and other Gnome2 standards (GConf etc)

    In a decent desktop, every basic task should be accomplishable through a default suite of applications; playing media, writing documents, browsing the web, checking your email. And each of these components should be substitutable so those requiring extra functionality (or with a simple preference) can drop-in their preferred application. This is part the Utopia the Gnome project is working towards.

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  16. You want more desktops, you got it by Johan+Veenstra · · Score: 3, Informative

    Exit KDE

    edit ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals

    change:

    [Desktops] ....
    Number=4

    into

    [Desktops] ....
    Number=32

    restart KDE, voila.

    1. Re:You want more desktops, you got it by vivek7006 · · Score: 4, Informative

      U dont even have to do all that crap. Just right click on the kde desktop, go to properties and specify 'n' number of desktops.

      Done.....

  17. Re:Mandrake by salimma · · Score: 5, Informative
    You're thinking of Red Hat. It's compiled for a 386

    Actually, Mandrake is compiled for i686 but only using the i586 instruction set, while Red Hat is compiled for i686 utilising the i486 instruction set for compatibility. Why it's still called 'i386' is anyone's guess.
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  18. Re:hopefully by Lispy · · Score: 3, Informative

    dropline will supply users with 2.4 soon!!

  19. Re:That's great! Accessibility? by hephro · · Score: 4, Informative
    Regarding speech recognition: Unfortunately, Gnome doesn't have anything that comes close to products such as Dragon Dictate and ViaVoice. The ViaVoice version for Linux was discontinued at some point... and free software such as Sphinx doesn't come close to the commercial products.

    Maybe this one of the areas where free software really has a hard time catching up: small market, highly sophisticated software, small "coolness" factor, and very smooth desktop-integration a requirement...

  20. Re:Mandrake by xanadu-xtroot.com · · Score: 5, Informative

    As much as I like gentoo, it doesn't release packages immideatelly after they are released.

    nano -w /etc/make.conf

    Advanced Masking
    # ================
    #
    # Gentoo is using a new masking system to allow for easier stability testing
    # on packages. KEYWORDS are used in ebuilds to mask and unmask packages based
    # on the platform they are set for. A special form has been added that
    # indicates packages and revisions that are expected to work, but have not yet
    # been approved for the stable set. '~arch' is a superset of 'arch' which
    # includes the unstable, in testing, packages. Users of the 'x86' architecture
    # would add '~x86' to ACCEPT_KEYWORDS to enable unstable/testing packages.
    # '~ppc', '~sparc', '~sparc64' are the unstable KEYWORDS for their respective
    # platforms. DO NOT PUT ANYTHING BUT YOUR SPECIFIC ~ARCHITECTURE IN THE LIST.
    # IF YOU ARE UNSURE OF YOUR ARCH, OR THE IMPLICATIONS, DO NOT MODIFY THIS.
    #
    ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86"

    You'll get stuff a LOT faster. I've been using that "unstable branch" (if you will) for a year and a half or so with zero show-stopper problems on 5 or so machines. OK, OK, there's a bad realease from some developer from time to time, but Portage will down-grade it next emerge -u world if there's something really bonked with a package or ebuild.


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  21. Re:Another freaking browser? by leonardop · · Score: 3, Informative

    Your message shows how very badly informed you are about the reasons why new browsers get developed, and Epiphany in particular. Moreover, your highly-flammable words takes away any bit of credibility and respect I would have given to your post. The reasons why this has been mod'ed up as Insightful are beyond me.

    Any way, long story short: Epiphany's raison d'etre could be resumed as follows:

    • Some people don't want the "gigantic" Mozilla binary running for most web-browsing needs.
    • Some people wants their graphical applications as consistent as possible.
    • Some people care about their applications being usable.
    • Some people realize that sitting down and coding an application that is going to be used at the very least by its developer is a lot more useful and fun than ranting about pointless drivel such as "why another web browser?" and "I think [insert project name here] has dick-envy over [insert different project name here]"
  22. Re:Gnome unusable for many Unix users by riggwelter · · Score: 3, Informative

    Applications -> Desktop Preferences -> Windows -> Select windows when mouse moves over them

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