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wampl3r writes " Eric Raymond and Bruce Perens deliver a great response to SCO's recent Letter to the Open Source Community. Their response does a good job of presenting many of the finer points we have been arguing about around here, but it's nice to see them in such a formal, well-thought-out letter." Munchola adds "Meanwhile, ComputerWire, from where McBride misquoted Perens in the first place, sets the record straight: 'In his statement McBride appears to have attributed a ComputerWire paraphrase as a quote from Perens.'" stefan points to this response to McBride's letter from Kevin Bedell, LinuxWorld Magazine's Editor. Below, find one reader's idea about the "stolen lines" SCO claims are in the Linux kernel, and one expert's claim that SCO might not know some of its own source code very well.

VikingBrad writes "The Sydney Morning Herald has an article on Dr Warwick Toomey of The Unix Heritage Society claiming that SCO may not know the origin of code in System V, including claims that there is a lot of BSD software in Sys V."

Alex writes "I wondered where the 100k+ lines of copied code in the linux kernel would come from in comparison to the SCO Unixware stuff. Then a thought popped up in my head: what if they just compared linewise? All those empty lines in the code would have the same content. But how many empty lines are in the Linux Kernel Code? This small shell script counts them for you:

emptylines=0; function parse_dir () { for file in $1/*; do if [ -d "$file" ]; then parse_dir $file; else while read line; do if [ "$line" = "" ]; then emptylines=$[$emptylines+1]; echo $emptylines; fi; done

Kernel 2.4.22, yet cleaned of the code which SCO claimed was stolen, has still 733140 empty lines, probably copied and pasted by the bad, bad kernel developers from the good, good SCO guys..."

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  1. Is it Wednesday already? by MachineShedFred · · Score: 0, Troll

    Time for another SCO story!

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  2. McBride's sources by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Several scattered thoughts come to mind, among them "chutzpah", "pump and dump", and "someone's going to jail when this is all over." Why wouldn't they use Linux? They own it, don't they? Lawyers have pulses? Darl's head must be spinning so fast that he doesn't know which way is up any more.

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  3. Re:You are of course right, by dhowells · · Score: 0, Troll
    That crazy gun-nut has done more for the OSS movement than you ever have or ever will, Mr. dhowells. Care to explain why you should even be compared to Utah hillbillies?

    And that is, of course, what is so sad about the situation. ESR has indeed done more than me, and quite possibly more than you, for the furtherance of the open source community from the logistical, technical, etc point of view. However measuring his net benefit as am amasador for OSS is difficult, and if i believe his influence to have been negative that is a view which can only be dismissed with counter-argument (for example how his pro-gun views dont matter if that is what you think) not merely dismissed with throw-away comments like:

    Care to explain why you should even be compared to Utah hillbillies

    This comment is not only non-valid as a dismissal of my viewpoint but it is also an unfounded personal slur. Because what matters in this is not my merit as an OSS bod, or as a person, but ESR's. It is equally important to remember that his immorality is not seperable from his role as an ambassador and the idea that it could be is a nonsense. I belive that his gun views are palpably absurd, backward, and immoral and responsible in effect for the deaths of hundreds of innocents. Doesnt this put his OSS contributions in perspecive a little?

    You are effectively defending his gun-nut views. And before you jump to the keyboard in defense of my claim consider this: If ESR were a pedophile would you write That sick pedophile has done more for oss than you ever...... etc? I think not

    Think about it. Defend ESR on the basis that he made good contributions to OSS and you are effectively legitimising his political views, i.e. gun 'freedoms'. Given that to a moral person such views are utterly unteneble, this reflects as badly on you as it does on him

    Consider the heirarchy of goods you have created:

    1. Contributing to OSS
    2. Morality and the human right to life

    Mmmmm. lush

    Dom

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  4. Interesting choice of words... by 110010001000 · · Score: 0, Troll

    "We will not attempt to erect a compromise with you on a foundation of dishonesty."

    Notice the wording. It seems as if there is actually something there, otherwise the word "compromise" wouldn't be in there. Very telling, since they have actually seen the evidence from SCO.