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Project Censored 2003 Underreported Stories

gobbo writes "Project Censored has released its top 25 underreported stories for 2002-3. Everyone needs to find out about these as part of a daily anti-propaganda vitamin, but /.ers should be particularly interested in #6: "Closing Access to Information Technology," in which Arthur Stamoulis reports on how the conglomeration of control over the physical networks threatens access to content. Alternative links suggested for more info: the Center for Digital Democracy, Media Tank, and Free Press. Double plus good I say, who wants all that information anyway!"

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  1. Great Book....But The Censored Book is Censored!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Although its table of contents reads like a list of stories from any issue of The Onion, every one of the articles in Censored 2003: The Top 25 Censored Stories are true. With chapter titles like "United States' Policies in Columbia Support Mass Murder," "U.S. Intentionally Destroyed Iraq's Water System" and "Bush Appoints Former Criminals to Key Government Roles," the collection covers important news stories that were censored for various reasons. In his introduction, Robert W. McChesney laments the "deplorable" coverage of three of the past year's major stories: the war on terrorism, the Enron scandal and the 2000 presidential election. The articles, selected by Peter Phillips and Project Censored, range from an explanation of how NAFTA has ruined rural farmers in North America to a look at how the federal government bails out failing private prisons. Cartoons by Tom Tomorrow are sprinkled throughout.

  2. Still censored? by ndogg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are those stories still censored? Oh, no, never mind, that's just the /. effect.

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  3. list of stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Censored 2004: The Top 25 Censored Media Stories of 2002-2003
    #1: The Neoconservative Plan for Global Dominance
    #2: Homeland Security?
    #3: US Removes Pages from Iraq Report
    #4: Rumsfeld's Plan to Provoke Terrorists
    #5: The Effort to Make Unions Extinct
    #6: Closing Access to Information Technology
    #7: Treaty Busting by the United States
    #8: US/British forces knowingly use illegal depleted uranium weapons in Gulf War
    #9: Where's Afghanistan?
    #10: Africa Faces New Threat of Colonialism
    #11: U.S. Implicated in Taliban Massacre
    #12: Corporate Speech and Corporate Personhood
    #13: US Military's War on the Earth
    #14: Unwanted Refugees
    #15: Venezuela: Bush Administration Behind Failed Military Coup
    #16: Plan Puebla-Panama and the FTAA
    #17: Clear Channel Monopoly Draws Criticism
    #18: Charter Forest Proposal
    #19: U.S. Dollar vs. the Euro
    #20: For-Profit Military
    #21: IMF & World Bank Austerity Policies Come to the US
    #22: Welfare Reform Up For Reauthorization and Still No Safety Net
    #23: Argentina Crisis Sparks Cooperative Growth
    #24: Aid to Israel Fuels Occupation
    #25: Convicted Corporations Receive Perks Instead of Punishment

    1. Re:list of stories by joel8x · · Score: 4, Funny

      #26: What happens to websites when they are linked to from Slas

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    2. Re:list of stories by aborchers · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Looks like Ultra-liberalism 101.


      I didn't realize that being liberal was equivalent with being interested in the what actually happens in the world, instead of what gets filtered through the short attention span, J-Lo and Ben sieve.

      Would you care to respond with substantive argument instead of name calling?

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    3. Re:list of stories by shri · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not sure why this story -- Saving Private Lynch covered by the UK was in there. A bunch of us spent long hours searching through major newspaper and network achives to see how people in the US would react to it.

    4. Re:list of stories by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not. This is coming from people way out on left field. The UN had a treaty that banned depleted uranium weapons. Some countries signed on to it, many who are protected by our depleted uranium weapons and the like. Now, the people behind this, who don't understand the difference between censorship and people not buying what you're selling, don't believe in sovereignity. If the UN wants to ban depleted weapons, then ipso facto they are illegal, overriding every country's legislature. This isn't how it works, but they would like it to work that way; and these people have the gall to whine about global domination conspiracy theories. Guess it has to be their domination.

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    5. Re:list of stories by Stiletto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Depleted uranium is not radioactive, but it is toxic. If you think it's a great idea to spray the environment with these bullets, then by all means, please allow me to dump a box of spent ammo into your water supply.

    6. Re:list of stories by The+Mayor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Read that statement closely, then re-read my statement. This statement is talking about external exposure to DU. I repeat again that alpha and beta particles are stopped sufficiently by the layer of dead skin that covers our body. No damage will be done by this.

      Now, pulverize the same DU into particles that can be airborne. Now ingest those same particles and repeat the study. I believe you will find different results. This is because ingested radioactive material producing alpha and beta radiation will not be absorbed by dead skin, but instead by live cells. The results in this case are quite different.

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    7. Re:list of stories by canajin56 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Uranium consists of u-235 and u-238. U-235 is used in nuclear reactors. Depleted uranium is u-238 that has been "depleted" of its nuclear fuel. u-238 is still 70% as radioactive. (Yes 238 is way less radioactive than 235, since removing 0.3% of the material removes 30% of the radioactivity. But it is still radioactive) Further more, uranium is a heavy metal. Like all heavy metals, it is highly toxic. Symptoms of heavy metal poisioning include: Frequent headaches, nausia, vomiting, cold sweating, and neurological degeneration which is often misdiagnosed as Lou Gehrig's disease. Symptoms of radiation damage to the lungs include: Weakened immune system, chronic fatigue, chronic cancer, difficulty breathing, fluid in the lungs.

      The pentagon released an internal report warning about all of this, since DU rounds spray large clouds of uranium-oxide dust into the air, which can then be breathed in. The Pentagon now says "We were wrong, it is harmless" But crews of tanks equipt with DU are still told NOT to get out of the tank anywhere near a target that has been hit. Infantry is told not to go near a target that has been hit or they will get cancer.

      And no, DU isn't illegal in the US. But it has been determined by the UN to be an illegal weapon, as it violates the Geneva convention. First, they cause undue suffering (Long lasting heavy metal toxicity). Second, they continue to affect the area after they are used (Millions of years, in fact) Third, they are toxic agents. Toxic, biological, and chemical weapons are all illegal.

      On the subject of of the Geneva convention, it is also illegal to attack any building, city, or town that is undefended. (Such as the house of a general) Additionally, civilian targets may not be targeted, such as hospitals, orphenages, churches, and so on, UNLESS they are being used for protection by the enemey in a firefight. This means that even if there is a general directing the battle from inside a hospital, you CANNOT attack unless they start shooting. (This means that if you see an enemy soldier haning out with some civilians, you may not fire unless he is shooting back AND using a civilian for cover. If you take a shot with a sniper rifle and hit a civilian, you are not protected and can be tried for murder. If said soldier was engaged in hostilities, then you are protected as long as you did not intend to hit a civilian)
      Additionally, it is illegal to present POW's for "public interest." Which includes photographs and television. Further more, on the prisoners in Cuba. The Bush Administration says that the Geneva convention does not apply to them because they are "illegal combatants" but the Geneva convention specifically INCLUDES illegal combatants in protection of POW's rights. If you are a POW you have the right to send and receive mail. It may be read, but not witheld. If you are not then you have the same rights as any civilian prisoner. Right to your phone call, lawyer, etc.

      My source for what the Genvea convention says is the USMC conduct guide, so it includes the Marine Corps' interperitation.

      In conclusion, two wrongs does not make a right.

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    8. Re:list of stories by radish · · Score: 4, Insightful

      isn't how it works, but they would like it to work that way; and these people have the gall to whine about global domination conspiracy theories. Guess it has to be their domination.


      You are really comparing a decision made by a group of delegates of all countries to a decision made by one guy? Go look up "democracy" in a dictionary.

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    9. Re:list of stories by 4of12 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How to present a political agenda whilst masquerading as a news piece.

      Roger Ailes has already done that in a much larger more effective way than Project Censored could ever dream of doing.

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    10. Re:list of stories by fenix+down · · Score: 4, Interesting

      #1 is just a rewrite of something signed by Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, and those other guys. The Project for a New American Century isn't some kind of secret. It's the platform Bush's foreign policy and military policies are based on. Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld wrote letters to both Clinton and Newt Gengrich in '98 demanding that they invade Iraq. So, once they're both in charge of the army, they do it. It's not paranoia, it's just what they did.

      The part most people would dismiss as paranoid would be Rebuilding America's Defenses (also available in ridiculously huge pdf from their site) where Wolfie and Rummy outline their plans for taking advantage of "some catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor", missile defense, increasing independence from the international community, a more mobile, flexible army, robot exoskeletons, tactics for use of robot exoskeletons culled from that 08th MS Team anime, ultrasonic guns designed to induce the brain to release chemicals to produce intense panic, rage, or anything else, drugs that would allow soldiers to deaden their consiences, and chemical and biological weapons tied to certain gene types that would allow them to carry out undetectable assasinations by spraying around genetically engineered ebola viruses.

  4. What we can do.. by Lysol · · Score: 4, Interesting

    #6 on the report is very real. While I still have a choice, I chose DSL - sepcifically so I could host my own servers - over cable. But I paid more, not just in the service, but also due to the fact that phone line charges are separate.

    I suspect, however, that the average American household will go with cable because it is cheaper, there are no line charges per say, and it rolls up nicely in one bill from the cable company along with their cable service. And as #6 says, there are fewer and fewer cable companies that control this access, which should worry most.

    I chose Speakeasy.net as my DSL provider because they've had a pretty good presence on the west and east coast and they've always maintained that they're a large 'local isp'. For me, I won't have to worry about having access to a site blocked, such as the recent AOL/MSN fiasco.

    But for the average American, these things cannot be promised. There have been more than a few reports of cable companies monitoring and logging traffic of their users and honestly, as time rolls on, I see this becoming more and more of an issue for mega-corps like TimeWarner - they'll be encouraged to tap into this 'gold mine'. Most users probably won't care either.

    Since I don't think the policies of these companies will change much in regards to this, the only alternative for those that care about such things - besides lobbying and the like - will be to vote with their pocketbooks. This will not only affect (albiet, realistically, probably little) the mega-corps bottom line, but will help to ensure that those 'other' companies will still be able to provide quality and non-censored access to their paying subscribers.

  5. Great articles... by grub · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Unfortunately the vast majority of people out there get their news from the talking-heads on television. These kinds of stories will never be seen on mainstream media (ala CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, et al) as long as they are owned by monolithic corporations with their sole interest being profit.

    The brain-dead sheep of the world watch their TV and are fed what the advertisers want:
    "Don't question the war in Iraq, buy a Swiffer WetJet!"

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  6. Yes, these people know all about dblspeak by Rombuu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Any list of "underreported" stories that includes stories published in the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal, only the papers with among the largest publications in the US, is flawed.

    They should call it... things the left is pissed people haven't gotten more excited about or something...

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  7. Come on....... by brw215 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This "report" seems more like an anti-American propaganda piece then insightful journalism. Every story there revolves around how the US is part of some secret conspiracy to rule the world.

    While I would concede that we are into global hegemony and are little to quick to use force to solve our problems, this list a bit ridiculous. Take the following quote:

    Recently, Rwandan troops burnt down thousands of homes in the eastern Congo. Uganda has armed two ethnic groups, the Hema and Lendu in Ituri province and encouraged them to fight resulting in 11,400 deaths so far; the two groups have laid siege to the provincial capital, Bunia, where bloody massacres continue. This shows the extent to which the U.S. will go to plunder Africa.
    Excuse me, the US has zero to do with any of the civil wars in Africa. Zero. There are problems that can't be blamed on the US and the war in the Congo is one of them.

    The author of this article says:

    Over the past fifteen years, thirty-two of the fifty-three African countries experienced violent conflict. During the cold war years (1950-1989), the U.S. sent $1.5 billion in arms and training to Africa thus setting the stage for the current round of conflicts.

    Come on. That is outrageous. Africans are not babies, and we are not their irresponsible parents. I find talk like that extremely insulting to Africans as it suggests they are not as "advanced" as Western civilizations and cannot control themselves when presented with military technology.

  8. Overheated Rhetoric by Steve+B · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Applying the term "Censored" to a story that got less attention than you think it deserved is like applying the term "Nazi" to the cop who just gave you a speeding ticket. It's inaccurate, stupid, and it trivializes the outrages that really deserve those descriptions.

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  9. Flawed, or sound criteria? by stomv · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While the NYT and WSJ may have lare circulations relative to other papers, they don't have large circulations.

    The fact that the NYT and WSJ picked up the stories imply that they (likely) passed the watchful eyes of editors... they're likely legit.

    And yet they weren't picked up on by papers, or =gasp!= television stations across the nation. That makes them candidates for big stories that were underreported in my book. YMMV.

  10. A related site by Paul+Bain · · Score: 5, Informative

    A related site is that of Accuracy in Media, which points out the many biases in mainstream media.

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  11. Yawn... by FatRatBastard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First off, when does "under reporting" = censorship?

    Secondly, interesting the political bent of all of these stories. What about

    * Where did all the UN Food for Oil money disppear to?

    * How much business did France and Germany do with Iraq in violation of UN resolutions?

    * How the "sactions are killing millions of Iraqi babies" stories were bogus.

    * How much of the Arab and some European press were getting paid by Saddam. ... and so on. All legitimate stories that have also been underreported, yet I don't see that site screaming censorship.

  12. 69% Americas believe Saddam caused 9-11 by peter303 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A poll last weekend showed that most Americans believe 9-11 is linked with Iraq war and Saddam sponsored the terrorism. With such blatant ignorance of international events, censorship is unnecessary. Americans got the president and government they deserved.

  13. The #1 Article by AntiPasto · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I've been following this for some time... People may remember the "Truth behind 911" video that is available via Bittorrent at Suprnova (search for Suprnova mirrors via Google)

    Check out: http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmeric asDefenses.pdf

    This has been quite disturbing to everyone I've talked to about it... My wife flat out refuses to talk to be about it because it makes so much sense and is so upsetting... This has gotten a lot of press lately. Check out:

    911 and the Bush Administration
    The Guardian

    Those with Weblogs should contribute to the weblog project mentioned on Metafilter about this:
    WHO were you?

    Unfortunately, it just makes more sense that we provoked these arabic countries to either let us build a pipeline to feed China with Oil, or we would do it by force. "A carpet of Gold, or a carpet of Bombs..."

  14. Another un-American liberal response by XianDeath · · Score: 5, Insightful
    From what I've seen so far, the comments seem to be running to the "those crazy leftist fanatics are at it again with their conspiracy theories and unfounded accusations." This out of hat dismissal concerns me. More importantly it surprises me, given that the Slashdot crowd seems to at least be more "informed" than your average American citizen. Allow me to respond to many of the comments at once, rather than distributing my wisdom (or lack thereof) in scattered posts.

    First, as to the accusation that the site is somehow un-American (a coinage that seems to have discovered a new lease on life since 9/11) since many of the stories somehow involve US involvement in affairs that do not put us in a very glowing light I'd respond that given the United States' pre-eminence economically, politically and culturally you would be hard pressed to find a situation that through our active or passive involvement, we are not implicated in. For proof of how our passiveness affects other countries, read your history of the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. Hussein communicated to the US ambassador an interest in seizing Kuwait. When the US offered no opposition or even statement of opposition, Hussein invaded. One wonders if Gulf War I could have been avoided had a clear message been sent to Iraq prior to the invasion of Kuwait. On the other side of that responsibility is our active involvement in international affairs. On that note, take a brief consideration of our historical actions in Iran and ask if the hostility towards the US there isn't at least in a nationalistic sense, well grounded.

    As to the sentiment of un-American, this one statement can be reduced to nothing more than vitriol. I have personally been accused of being un-American and unpatriotic for at various times voicing my opposition to the policies of the current administration. Some reasonable people, who failed to call me unpatriotic before we attacked Iraq, called me that afterwards since I wasn't "supporting the troops." The very indictment is flawed and irrational. In the very essence of voicing my opposition to the opinion of the sitting President, I am acting responsibly AND patriotically. Responsibly, in that one should not grant assent to a leader just because he's in power and patriotically, in that I am upholding the very rights, which this country so magnanimously grants us. As any developer knows-critical thought is eminently fundamental to the development of any system. Political dialogue is critical thought on a peer to peer basis.

    Finally, was the site's use of 'censored' the best choice? No, probably not. Under reported and under-represented by the major media outlets? Absolutely. Even liberal leaning old me had failed to hear about several of the items on their list. What should be kept in perspective is the fact that the site seeks to highlight the information that people may not have heard too much about from their traditional sources. Does Project Censored have a clear agenda? It would definitely appear so, but then ask yourself if Fox News doesn't as well. Or ABC, NBC, CNN, the New York Times, the Washington Post, ad inifinitum. When news became business, such a thing as objective journalism went away. Why else does just about everyone in the country know the name of Laci Peterson? Can you think of one prevailing reason why her victimization trumps the victimization of millions of other people around the world? As the Fox affiliate in Miami phrased it, "If it bleeds, it leads."

    And at this point I am probably off-topic. I just felt that some contrary opinion was needed to balance the bulk of what I'd read. Immediate dismissals are just as culpable as the blind acceptance of what one's been told. If you disagree with a 'fact,' establish the reasons why without resorting to off the cuff retorts or invective filled denials. Rationally approach the problem and if you find it important enough to speak about, speak with at least a modicum of informed opinion. Or don't, and fill the ether with the tiny murmurs of blind assent and self-righteous denial.

  15. anti-American propaganda by dpilot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In Al Franken's new book, he makes an interesting response to this "Liberals hate America!" type of claim.

    He says that the far right loves America the way a 4-year-old loves his/her Mommy - anyone who says anything bad about Mommy must be BAD!

    On the other hand, there is the way the mother loves her 4-year-old son/daugher - realizing that nurturing and behavior modification are needed, loving the kid in spite of flaws and helping to correct them.

    Perhaps the latter view doesn't apply to all of these items, but it is another point of view to apply toward criticism of America.

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  16. Re:Great Book....But The Censored Book is Censored by jhigh · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was thinking the same thing. One of the most underreported stories going right now is about the Federal Marriage Amendment (FMA). You never hear about it in the mainstream media because it is a movement to amend the Constitution to say that marriage is between a man and a woman, to hedge any attempts by activist judges to legislate otherwise.

    You're not hearing about it because it stands a great chance at being successful, and because it has broad support across party lines, racial lines, and class lines. The media doesn't want you to know that the majority of Americans don't support gay marriage, so they just don't report on the FMA.

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  17. Re:Here, Censored News = Liberal Conspiracy Theori by swordgeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The site is well and truly /.ed now, so I unfortunately can't get to it to see what they have to say. I did notice, however, that the title was top UNDERREPORTED stories--not censored, underreported.

    As for Bush being evil and wanting to take over the world, his entire entourage (except for Colin Powell) are members of the Project for a New American Century. Have you read their goals? Primary plans are: Extending US influence in the Middle East by instigating regime change in several countries, starting with Iraq; and Undermining and reducing the effectiveness of the UN. All of this is because they feel they have a moral obligation to lead the world into a future that serves the interests of the US.

    This is not a crazed leftist conspiracy either. It is the publically stated goal of the organisation that Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, et al. founded several years before Bush got into power.

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  18. Re:Great Book....But The Censored Book is Censored by aengblom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Uh, I read The Washington Post and don't have much trouble finding out about it. They've also had a bunch of editorials etc.

    The Post also did a nice big fast A1 lead story on its own poll finding that the majority of Americans don't support gay unions.

    This despite that the Post as an employer is gay friendly, is in a gay-friendly city and is gay friendly editorial-wise.

    Heheh I read your blog for a second too. Calling America's liberal's "socialists" just shows you have no idea what you're talking about. This country, including most "liberals" balk at even the most minor shifts towards "social democratic" type of institutions, which are a far cry from socialism.

    Anyway, you outweigh the liklihood and support of the FMA.

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  19. Not biased: Project Censored Hit Clinton Hard Too by SilentMajority · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you read the list of underreported stories during Clinton's administration, you'll see that Project Censored is not biased.

    And for those of you who haven't taken the time to study government or history, "liberal" is not a bunch of welfare-requesting hippies any more than "conservative" is not equal to corporate corruption (Enron, et. al.)

    Look past the biased bullshit dished out by both the left and the right and learn to think for yourselves.

    "How do you know?" and "Where did you get your info?" are among your best friends.

    ps

    I happen to think the media was extremely biased against Newt Gingrich in years past but now the exact opposite is happening: the media is overrun with neo-conservatives who try to spin any criticism of our government (one of the most cherished American freedoms) into "liberal bias" or "treason". Since when is opposition to corporate corruption or support for campaign finance reform or simply stating FACTS considered "liberal" or "treason"?

  20. Re:Here, Censored News = Liberal Conspiracy Theori by egrinake · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, as others have said, it's not about censorship, but about underreported stories. And when you see how the US press does it's "reporting" these days, it's no wonder why they are underreported. But don't take my word for it, Greg Palast is an american reporter (living in the UK), and he wrote the following in a recent book:

    "I freely offered up to CBS this information: The office of the governor of Florida, Jeb Bush, brother of the republican presidential candidate, had illegally ordered the removal of the names of felons from voter rolls - real felons who had served time but obtained clemency, with the legal right to vote under Florida law. [...] The next day I received a call from the producer, who said, "I'm sorry, but your story didn't hold up." And how do you think the multibillion-dollar CBS network determined this? Answer: "We called Jeb Bush's office." Oh."

    What it boils down to is that reporters generally don't bother to actually investigate and report anything anymore, they mostly just cut and paste from official press releases (there are exceptions, thank god, such as BBC news).

    Anyways, what bothers me is that it is true - the neoconservatives want world domination. And they're not even trying to hide it. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and many other friends of Bush are part of a neo-conservative think-tank called the Project for a New American Century. To quote from the PNACs official website: "The Project for the New American Century is a non-profit educational organization dedicated to a few fundamental propositions: that American leadership is good both for America and for the world; that such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle; and that too few political leaders today are making the case for global leadership."

    There is an excellent, well-researched article on GNN by a former british member of parliament, Michael Meacher, on how Afghanistan and Iraq both are part of an PNAC plan on establishing a US presence in the middle-east to secure future oil-supplies. This plan was first described in a document, called Rebuilding America's Defences, which was published by PNAC in september 2000.

    I want you to just please read the article (it won't take more than 10 minutes of your time), and then tell me something's not going on here...

  21. Re:Here, Censored News = Liberal Conspiracy Theori by cje · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Have you considered the idea that perhaps most Americans like the idea of making the world more like us?

    And the 19 hijackers that flew planes into the WTC and Pentagon two years ago liked the idea of making the world more like them. If you believe that the totality of your culture is superior to each and every other culture on the face of the Earth, then you will obviously want to make the rest of the world more like you. This does not mean, however, that the rest of the world is obligated to become more like you.

    It's an interesting choice of words, by the way; "making" the rest of the world like us, as opposed to "helping" the rest of the world become more like us. The former implies force and compulsion, whereas the latter implies aid and assistance.

    Also, can you understand why the "Project" guys might /want/ to make the rest of the world more like the US?

    I certainly would want to make sure that other peoples and nations who sincerely want help to reform their societies and governments gets whatever assistance they need, but I cannot support the (thoroughly bizarre) notion of "imposing freedom." America should lead by example, not by force. America should be respected and looked up to, not hated and feared. Nations and groups who actively decide to make an enemy of America should fear our capabilities, but the recent oderint dum metuant policy of this administration has gone far beyond that.

    The PNAC's agenda is pretty transparent: a "New American Century", regardless of whether the recipients of said Century actually want it or not. And that's horribly, horribly wrong. If the underdeveloped world is to become more like America, it should be because it wants to become more like America, not because it's been forced to. If we have to resort to military force to spread our way of life, then we've taken a very long stroll down a very wrong road.

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  22. Re: Why Censor When You Can Debunk & Ridicule? by SilentMajority · · Score: 4, Insightful
    We all know that censorship doesn't work as well as it used to in the past.

    The best strategies are to debunk, ridicule and associate valid stories/opinions with undesirable words/people like "communists", "lefties", "conspiracy theorists", etc.

    For example, when interviewing "people off the street" make sure you have only the wackos presenting opposing views while you pick out "decent-looking, well-dressed" people to present your own views. And if there aren't enough people who share your views, hire some people off the street or go with local actors/models if your budget allows. Even if both views get equal airtime, the opposing views will be associated with ugly weirdos and who the hell wants to share the same views as them even if they're right?

    A similar strategy is to hire strong-looking & charismatic tv/news personalities that support your own views while hiring ugly-assed & uncharasmatic "wimps" to offer very pitiful opposition. I'm sure you can find a decent example of this tactic by watching TV.

    As you can see, your previously unpopular views can be easily associated with "winners" and opposing views are associated with "whiners, losers, traitors, communists, etc." without resorting to outright censorship.

    The best part of this strategy is that it works because the average joe-sixpacks don't understand how to detect bullshit.

    To sum it up: associate undesirable words/concepts/people to opposition and associate desirable words/concepts/people to your own views and don't let the pesky facts or Truth get in the way because perception is usually more important in manipulating the public.

    This of course goes hand-in-hand with manipulating opinion polls and surveys by carefully crafting questions in ways that lead people to pick desired answers and then hiding the exact original wording of these questions when presenting the results to the public.

    Who needs censorship when these tactics work so well?