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Project Censored 2003 Underreported Stories

gobbo writes "Project Censored has released its top 25 underreported stories for 2002-3. Everyone needs to find out about these as part of a daily anti-propaganda vitamin, but /.ers should be particularly interested in #6: "Closing Access to Information Technology," in which Arthur Stamoulis reports on how the conglomeration of control over the physical networks threatens access to content. Alternative links suggested for more info: the Center for Digital Democracy, Media Tank, and Free Press. Double plus good I say, who wants all that information anyway!"

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  1. Great Book....But The Censored Book is Censored!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Although its table of contents reads like a list of stories from any issue of The Onion, every one of the articles in Censored 2003: The Top 25 Censored Stories are true. With chapter titles like "United States' Policies in Columbia Support Mass Murder," "U.S. Intentionally Destroyed Iraq's Water System" and "Bush Appoints Former Criminals to Key Government Roles," the collection covers important news stories that were censored for various reasons. In his introduction, Robert W. McChesney laments the "deplorable" coverage of three of the past year's major stories: the war on terrorism, the Enron scandal and the 2000 presidential election. The articles, selected by Peter Phillips and Project Censored, range from an explanation of how NAFTA has ruined rural farmers in North America to a look at how the federal government bails out failing private prisons. Cartoons by Tom Tomorrow are sprinkled throughout.

  2. Still censored? by ndogg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are those stories still censored? Oh, no, never mind, that's just the /. effect.

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  3. list of stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Censored 2004: The Top 25 Censored Media Stories of 2002-2003
    #1: The Neoconservative Plan for Global Dominance
    #2: Homeland Security?
    #3: US Removes Pages from Iraq Report
    #4: Rumsfeld's Plan to Provoke Terrorists
    #5: The Effort to Make Unions Extinct
    #6: Closing Access to Information Technology
    #7: Treaty Busting by the United States
    #8: US/British forces knowingly use illegal depleted uranium weapons in Gulf War
    #9: Where's Afghanistan?
    #10: Africa Faces New Threat of Colonialism
    #11: U.S. Implicated in Taliban Massacre
    #12: Corporate Speech and Corporate Personhood
    #13: US Military's War on the Earth
    #14: Unwanted Refugees
    #15: Venezuela: Bush Administration Behind Failed Military Coup
    #16: Plan Puebla-Panama and the FTAA
    #17: Clear Channel Monopoly Draws Criticism
    #18: Charter Forest Proposal
    #19: U.S. Dollar vs. the Euro
    #20: For-Profit Military
    #21: IMF & World Bank Austerity Policies Come to the US
    #22: Welfare Reform Up For Reauthorization and Still No Safety Net
    #23: Argentina Crisis Sparks Cooperative Growth
    #24: Aid to Israel Fuels Occupation
    #25: Convicted Corporations Receive Perks Instead of Punishment

    1. Re:list of stories by joel8x · · Score: 4, Funny

      #26: What happens to websites when they are linked to from Slas

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    2. Re:list of stories by Transcendent · · Score: 2, Interesting

      #8: US/British forces knowingly use illegal depleted uranium weapons in Gulf War

      I had no idea that depleted uranium was illegal to use as munition? Really it's not radio-active anymore, just really frekin heavy.

      Anyway, how is that "unpublished"? If you are any sort of war-buff, aviation-buff, or anything else that would tie you to knowing about the A10 Warthog, you would know that the A10 uses depleted uranium rounds in its massively powerful gun. In fact, I just watched a special about the A10 and it's role in the Gulf War and how they used those rounds to easily penitrate the hull of enemy tanks.

      So we used heavy bullets.... what about the chemicals that Iraq used?

    3. Re:list of stories by aborchers · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Looks like Ultra-liberalism 101.


      I didn't realize that being liberal was equivalent with being interested in the what actually happens in the world, instead of what gets filtered through the short attention span, J-Lo and Ben sieve.

      Would you care to respond with substantive argument instead of name calling?

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    4. Re:list of stories by G-funk · · Score: 2, Funny

      SSSSSH! Quiet! you'll wreck the propaganda machine! If joe sixpack knew what the depleted meant in depleted uranium, he wouldn't believe the "thousands of dead iraqis from spent DU rounds after the first gulf war" crap... Then where would we be?

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    5. Re:list of stories by shri · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not sure why this story -- Saving Private Lynch covered by the UK was in there. A bunch of us spent long hours searching through major newspaper and network achives to see how people in the US would react to it.

    6. Re:list of stories by perly-king-69 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Agreed, this is hardly news, at least not in the UK.

      What gets me is how we go on about how Saddam gassed the Kurds etc, but hear little mention of how Churchill, in the 1920's also used poisoned gas to kill these peoples.

      What's good for the goose is good for the gander?

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    7. Re:list of stories by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not. This is coming from people way out on left field. The UN had a treaty that banned depleted uranium weapons. Some countries signed on to it, many who are protected by our depleted uranium weapons and the like. Now, the people behind this, who don't understand the difference between censorship and people not buying what you're selling, don't believe in sovereignity. If the UN wants to ban depleted weapons, then ipso facto they are illegal, overriding every country's legislature. This isn't how it works, but they would like it to work that way; and these people have the gall to whine about global domination conspiracy theories. Guess it has to be their domination.

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    8. Re:list of stories by Stiletto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Depleted uranium is not radioactive, but it is toxic. If you think it's a great idea to spray the environment with these bullets, then by all means, please allow me to dump a box of spent ammo into your water supply.

    9. Re:list of stories by salesgeek · · Score: 3, Funny

      There are some comedic gems in here...

      #8: US/British forces knowingly use illegal depleted uranium weapons in Gulf War

      Bullets are designed to kill or injure. DU does it better! And for longer, too. Plus it sounds scary because people picture "nuclear bullets"!

      The alternative would be to have soldiers fire hardened lucky charms marshmallows. The make up for lack of density with that magically delicous flavor.

      #10: Africa Faces New Threat of Colonialism

      I'm helping out that Nigerian gentleman that keeps sending me emails.

      #11: U.S. Implicated in Taliban Massacre

      Yes, we did kill a lot of them. Fortunately, there was no conspiracy there. WAIT! Because we funded the enemy of our soviet enemy when they were our enemy, that must mean the Taliban was, is and will always be our freind. Get married so you can find out about how friendships change over the years.

      #17: Clear Channel Monopoly Draws Criticism

      Rush Limbaugh haters unite! I'm suprised Fox New's surge to the top wasn't on the list too. Open minds, open minds... If it's not our news there can't be news.

      #20: For-Profit Military

      Obviously never read "Soldier of Fortune" mag as a kid. This just in: "For-profit sex: it's real and in your neighborhood!"

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    10. Re:list of stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's because it happened 80 years ago you complete cretin! It's called News for a reason dumbass. Why not come out with "What I don't understand is that we hear so much about President Bush invading Iraq but hear so little about Assyrian aggression towards the Hittites during the 1st millennium BC"

    11. Re:list of stories by ananiasanom · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Bullets are designed to kill or injure. DU does it better! And for longer, too.

      And, as an added bonus, they spread toxic dust around the area where they're used, so you can kill people long after you've gone home

      After the side effects of DU were revealed following their use in Yugoslavia, we were told we wouldn't be using it any more...

      Yes, this site has a strong left bias. But glancing at the list (can't get to the site yet), maybe 75% of the "stories" are probably basically true. You tend not to get people saying "I don't have much of a political point of view, but here are a bunch of important stories that haven't got much mainstream attention." Another commenter pointed at Accuracy In Media, which regularly performs the same valuable function from a different political viewpoint. I rate it at the same kind of 75% accurate as the project censored list. Well worth a look.

    12. Re:list of stories by The+Mayor · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, depleted uranium is radioactive. I refer you to the World Health Organization's report on depleted uranium. It is considered "weakly" radioactive, producing about 60% of the radiation of purified uranium of the same weight. As I understand it (and I am not a nuclear engineer), depleted uranium produces alpha and beta radiation. Gamma radiation is the stuff that is more generally considered harmful, requiring a somewhat significant layer of mass (usually lead or concrete) to stop the radiation and prevent exposure. Alpha and beta radiation are able to be stopped by the layer of dead skin on our bodies or the clothing that we wear. The problem with alpha and beta radiation is when they are "stopped" by live cells. This doesn't occur when the munitions are whole, but when a munition strikes its target, very small particles are released into the air. These particles are often ingested, and thus absorbed directly into live cells in the lungs. Alpha and beta radiation absorbed in this manner is considered to be harmful, although the extent of harm that is done is not well known. Given the levels of DU munitions used first in 1991, then again this year, it is safe to say that Iraq provides an excellent case study to analyze the effects of ingested alpha and beta radiation. Given the extremely high levels of birth defects and rare cancers seen by Iraqis since 1991, the general consensus among the medical community is that DU munitions do cause considerable harm when used in battle.

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    13. Re:list of stories by Bob+McCown · · Score: 2, Funny
      A better one would be Churchill gassing the Welsh.

      That was an accident, and only after he had vindaloo for dinner.

    14. Re:list of stories by jedidiah · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Insightful my *ss.

      What do you think LEAD is, harmless?

      Odd that this sight never brings this up. Lead is so harmful that even the US military has started to reconsider using it. There are firing ranges that are so contaminated with lead that it's leaking into the nearby environment. They're even going to the trouble of doing a formal cleanup.

      Where's the socialist world gazette fear mongering on this issue?

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    15. Re:list of stories by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 3, Informative

      Given the extremely high levels of birth defects and rare cancers seen by Iraqis since 1991, the general consensus among the medical community is that DU munitions do cause considerable harm when used in battle.

      Given that the WHO, in their DU FactSheet, does not agree with your statement, I call BS.

      Potential health effects of exposure to depleted uranium
      "Erythema (superficial inflammation of the skin) or other effects on the skin are unlikely to occur even if DU is held against the skin for long periods (weeks).
      No consistent or confirmed adverse chemical effects of uranium have been reported for the skeleton or liver.
      No reproductive or developmental effects have been reported in humans."

    16. Re:list of stories by moonboy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Here is some more "news" that will never be reported by the "mainstream" press:

      #1: 'Loveline' Host: How I Help Stars Beat Drugs
      #2: J.Lo Furious Over Ben's Gambling
      #3: Liz's Gay Sex Fight Heats Up
      #4: David Blaine Pelted with Eggs and Golf Balls During Stunt
      #5: Macy Gray - I'm Not Afraid of Death
      #6: Top Musicians: We Won't Perform on 9-11
      #7: Hilary at War With Wild Child Chelsea
      #8: Ben Cancels Bachelor Party When J.Lo Throws a Fit
      #9: Matt LeBlanc's a Pain in the Butt to 'Friends'
      #10: Colin Farrell Expecting a Boy
      #11: Carly Simon to Reveal Inspiration for 'Your so Vain'

      Oh, BTW, my source for this "news".

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    17. Re:list of stories by argStyopa · · Score: 2, Flamebait

      #27: How to present a political agenda whilst masquerading as a news piece.

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    18. Re:list of stories by The+Mayor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Read that statement closely, then re-read my statement. This statement is talking about external exposure to DU. I repeat again that alpha and beta particles are stopped sufficiently by the layer of dead skin that covers our body. No damage will be done by this.

      Now, pulverize the same DU into particles that can be airborne. Now ingest those same particles and repeat the study. I believe you will find different results. This is because ingested radioactive material producing alpha and beta radiation will not be absorbed by dead skin, but instead by live cells. The results in this case are quite different.

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    19. Re:list of stories by canajin56 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Uranium consists of u-235 and u-238. U-235 is used in nuclear reactors. Depleted uranium is u-238 that has been "depleted" of its nuclear fuel. u-238 is still 70% as radioactive. (Yes 238 is way less radioactive than 235, since removing 0.3% of the material removes 30% of the radioactivity. But it is still radioactive) Further more, uranium is a heavy metal. Like all heavy metals, it is highly toxic. Symptoms of heavy metal poisioning include: Frequent headaches, nausia, vomiting, cold sweating, and neurological degeneration which is often misdiagnosed as Lou Gehrig's disease. Symptoms of radiation damage to the lungs include: Weakened immune system, chronic fatigue, chronic cancer, difficulty breathing, fluid in the lungs.

      The pentagon released an internal report warning about all of this, since DU rounds spray large clouds of uranium-oxide dust into the air, which can then be breathed in. The Pentagon now says "We were wrong, it is harmless" But crews of tanks equipt with DU are still told NOT to get out of the tank anywhere near a target that has been hit. Infantry is told not to go near a target that has been hit or they will get cancer.

      And no, DU isn't illegal in the US. But it has been determined by the UN to be an illegal weapon, as it violates the Geneva convention. First, they cause undue suffering (Long lasting heavy metal toxicity). Second, they continue to affect the area after they are used (Millions of years, in fact) Third, they are toxic agents. Toxic, biological, and chemical weapons are all illegal.

      On the subject of of the Geneva convention, it is also illegal to attack any building, city, or town that is undefended. (Such as the house of a general) Additionally, civilian targets may not be targeted, such as hospitals, orphenages, churches, and so on, UNLESS they are being used for protection by the enemey in a firefight. This means that even if there is a general directing the battle from inside a hospital, you CANNOT attack unless they start shooting. (This means that if you see an enemy soldier haning out with some civilians, you may not fire unless he is shooting back AND using a civilian for cover. If you take a shot with a sniper rifle and hit a civilian, you are not protected and can be tried for murder. If said soldier was engaged in hostilities, then you are protected as long as you did not intend to hit a civilian)
      Additionally, it is illegal to present POW's for "public interest." Which includes photographs and television. Further more, on the prisoners in Cuba. The Bush Administration says that the Geneva convention does not apply to them because they are "illegal combatants" but the Geneva convention specifically INCLUDES illegal combatants in protection of POW's rights. If you are a POW you have the right to send and receive mail. It may be read, but not witheld. If you are not then you have the same rights as any civilian prisoner. Right to your phone call, lawyer, etc.

      My source for what the Genvea convention says is the USMC conduct guide, so it includes the Marine Corps' interperitation.

      In conclusion, two wrongs does not make a right.

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    20. Re:list of stories by radish · · Score: 4, Insightful

      isn't how it works, but they would like it to work that way; and these people have the gall to whine about global domination conspiracy theories. Guess it has to be their domination.


      You are really comparing a decision made by a group of delegates of all countries to a decision made by one guy? Go look up "democracy" in a dictionary.

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    21. Re:list of stories by NearlyHeadless · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Given the extremely high levels of birth defects and rare cancers seen by Iraqis since 1991, the general consensus among the medical community is that DU munitions do cause considerable harm when used in battle.
      This is not the consensus at all. The dangers of uranium, depleted or not, are well-studied. Workers at uranium-processing plants were exposed to many times any conceivable exposure of Iraqis for decades. There have been many studies of them and they did not find any significant differences in health from control populations. (Just in case anybody brings this up, uranium miners did suffer many health problems, but that was from the radon in the mines, not the uranium.)

      The Iraqis suffered from a lot of deprivations in the 1990s and assigning all their problems to depleted uranium or to U. N. sanctions is unwarranted.

    22. Re:list of stories by 4of12 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How to present a political agenda whilst masquerading as a news piece.

      Roger Ailes has already done that in a much larger more effective way than Project Censored could ever dream of doing.

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    23. Re:list of stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting


      > Not sure why this story -- Saving Private Lynch covered by the UK was in there. A bunch of us spent long hours searching through major newspaper and network achives to see how people in the US would react to it.

      What gets me is how two-faced the media is about this kind of stuff. ABC clearly reported the de-propagandized facts, but then they turned around and reported her trip to the hospital in Germany and her welcome back home to the USA as major news stories, catering to the heroic myth rather than the boring reality that they had earlier acknowledged.

    24. Re:list of stories by mad.frog · · Score: 2, Funny
      Is this any different than the "Progressive" plan for global dominance?


      What? There's a Progressive Plan for Global Dominance?


      And they're not inviting me to the meetings?

    25. Re:list of stories by F34nor · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is how the media worked in the early US. You had know quality news. You would read a paper that was a labor paper, or conseravtive paper or etc. They all told the "truth" but they were all slanted in a known direction. It was assumed the reader was smart enough to not just read the Amerikan Spectator and assume it was "fair and balanced" You want fair and balance you got to roll you own. Read the Nation, The Economist, Foriegn Affairs, The Atlantic, The American Spectator and the Druge Report.

    26. Re:list of stories by fenix+down · · Score: 4, Interesting

      #1 is just a rewrite of something signed by Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, and those other guys. The Project for a New American Century isn't some kind of secret. It's the platform Bush's foreign policy and military policies are based on. Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld wrote letters to both Clinton and Newt Gengrich in '98 demanding that they invade Iraq. So, once they're both in charge of the army, they do it. It's not paranoia, it's just what they did.

      The part most people would dismiss as paranoid would be Rebuilding America's Defenses (also available in ridiculously huge pdf from their site) where Wolfie and Rummy outline their plans for taking advantage of "some catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor", missile defense, increasing independence from the international community, a more mobile, flexible army, robot exoskeletons, tactics for use of robot exoskeletons culled from that 08th MS Team anime, ultrasonic guns designed to induce the brain to release chemicals to produce intense panic, rage, or anything else, drugs that would allow soldiers to deaden their consiences, and chemical and biological weapons tied to certain gene types that would allow them to carry out undetectable assasinations by spraying around genetically engineered ebola viruses.

    27. Re:list of stories by Salgak1 · · Score: 2, Informative
      And no, DU isn't illegal in the US. But it has been determined by the UN to be an illegal weapon,

      No, it has been determined by a UN Agency that it SHOULD be an illegal weapon. There's a difference.

      as it violates the Geneva convention. First, they cause undue suffering (Long lasting heavy metal toxicity).

      So does lead, which is every bit as toxic as uranium. And the Geneva Convention is referring to armament and ammunition designed specifically to grieviously wound, as opposed to kill: i.e. "dum-dum" bullets, bullets specifically designed to fragment and spread damage after impact in flesh (like the "Black Talon" civilian rounds), etc.

      The Geneva Conventions make no reference to Depleted Uranium Armor-piercing ammunition

      Second, they continue to affect the area aft er they are used (Millions of years, in fact) Third, they are toxic agents. Toxic, biological, and chemical weapons are all illegal.

      And lead ISN'T Toxic ??? Toxic and Bio/chem weapons are defined as weapons whose primary effect of damage is via a chemical or biological vector, NOT as a possible side effect.

    28. Re:list of stories by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So we should agree to what delegates from other countries, who are totally and utterly unaccountable (as they should be) to American voters? That's not democratic in any sense of the word. Also, we are a constitutional republic, which is a bit different from a pure democracy.

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    29. Re:list of stories by rifter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wow, Al Franken posts on these boards?
      LOL you're a riot.

      "there isn't a major media organization in this country that has the slightest hint of a liberal leaning in at least 20 years."
      Holy Mother of God, I didn't realize /. reached that far. (I mean, to make a statement like this, you CAN'T be from this planet.)

      To say things like "the whole gay marriage issue doesn't exist on the political spectrum" - maybe you need a little more oxygen?

      We certainly are from this planet, and it is right. Consider the following:

      1) Name one major media outlet that opposed the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan

      2) Name one major media outlet that did not immediately start begging to have our civil rights taken away please God so we can be protected on 9/11/01

      It was never clearer than it was then. The major media outlets are against civil rights, promote war, and promote blind faith in the government on a regular basis. All "conservative" viewpoints.

      Gay marriage does not have anything to do with the government. Amendment 1 of the constitution says congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion. IMHO that translates to no laws made on purely moral bases, no laws simply made because some religion wants them, no laws establishing what constitutes a sanctioned religion. People who support anti-gay legislation are against the constitution of the United States, because they want to force their religion on everyone by law and also to deprive citizens of their rights (read Amendment 14 and see what it has to say on that score).

      This is, of course, why the amendment was proposed. The complete disregard fo rthe constitution and rule of law is also why after the supreme court said laws against homosexuality were unconstitutional, state prosecutors said they were going to try and prosecute people anyway and pass more anti-gay laws. And don't get me started about Ashcroft, the damned criminal traitor.

  4. What we can do.. by Lysol · · Score: 4, Interesting

    #6 on the report is very real. While I still have a choice, I chose DSL - sepcifically so I could host my own servers - over cable. But I paid more, not just in the service, but also due to the fact that phone line charges are separate.

    I suspect, however, that the average American household will go with cable because it is cheaper, there are no line charges per say, and it rolls up nicely in one bill from the cable company along with their cable service. And as #6 says, there are fewer and fewer cable companies that control this access, which should worry most.

    I chose Speakeasy.net as my DSL provider because they've had a pretty good presence on the west and east coast and they've always maintained that they're a large 'local isp'. For me, I won't have to worry about having access to a site blocked, such as the recent AOL/MSN fiasco.

    But for the average American, these things cannot be promised. There have been more than a few reports of cable companies monitoring and logging traffic of their users and honestly, as time rolls on, I see this becoming more and more of an issue for mega-corps like TimeWarner - they'll be encouraged to tap into this 'gold mine'. Most users probably won't care either.

    Since I don't think the policies of these companies will change much in regards to this, the only alternative for those that care about such things - besides lobbying and the like - will be to vote with their pocketbooks. This will not only affect (albiet, realistically, probably little) the mega-corps bottom line, but will help to ensure that those 'other' companies will still be able to provide quality and non-censored access to their paying subscribers.

  5. Great articles... by grub · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Unfortunately the vast majority of people out there get their news from the talking-heads on television. These kinds of stories will never be seen on mainstream media (ala CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, et al) as long as they are owned by monolithic corporations with their sole interest being profit.

    The brain-dead sheep of the world watch their TV and are fed what the advertisers want:
    "Don't question the war in Iraq, buy a Swiffer WetJet!"

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  6. Yes, these people know all about dblspeak by Rombuu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Any list of "underreported" stories that includes stories published in the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal, only the papers with among the largest publications in the US, is flawed.

    They should call it... things the left is pissed people haven't gotten more excited about or something...

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    1. Re:Yes, these people know all about dblspeak by pete-classic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You nailed it.

      It looks like they might have a few valid points, but they have chosen to drown them out with obviously politically motivated drivel.

      It's a shame, really. Another great idea sacrificed to unbridled emotionalism.

      -Peter

  7. #17 Clear Channel Monopoly Draws Criticism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sources:
    MEDIA FILE, September 2002
    Title: "Clear Channel Stumbles"
    Author: Jeff Perlstein

    Faculty Evaluator: Scott Gordon Ph.D., Jorge Porras Ph.D.
    Student Researcher: Melissa Jones, Chris Salvano
    Corporate Media Partial Coverage: Now With Bill Moyers, April 26, 2002 and April 4, 2003; The New York Times, January 30, 2003 and February 3, 2003; The Wall Street Journal, January 31, 2003

    Clear Channel Communications of San Antonio, Texas may not yet be a household name, but in the past seven years the radio station conglomerate has rocketed to a place alongside NBC and Gannett as one of the largest media companies in the United States.
    Before passage of the 1996 Telecommunications Act, a company could not own more than 40 radio stations in the entire country. With the Act's sweeping relaxation of ownership limits, the cap on radio ownership was eliminated. As a result, Clear Channel has dominated the industry by growing from 40 radio stations nationally in the mid-90s, to approximately 1225 stations nationally by 2003. The station also dominates the audience share in 100 of 112 major markets. In addition to its radio stations, Clear Channel also owns television station affiliates, billboards, outdoor advertising, and owns or exclusively books the vast majority of concert venues, amphitheaters, and clubs in the country. According to NOW with Bill Moyers, in 2000 Clear Channel purchased the nation's largest concert and events promoter, and in 2001, the Clear Channel did 70% of national ticket sales.
    In 2001, Denver concert promoter, Jesse Morreale, sued Clear Channel. Morreale's suit claims that Clear Channel's use of its billboards to advertise Clear Channel-booked shows at Clear Channel-owned music is in essence a monopoly. The suit also alleges that Clear Channel stations have threatened to withdraw certain music from rotation unless the artist's book concerts through Clear Channel and play at Clear Channel-owned music venues.
    Clear Channel has also drawn criticism for using "voice tracking." Voice tracking is when one DJ produces a standardized national broadcast and formats it into their radio stations nationwide- giving the semblance of a local broadcast. By this process, Clear Channel can produce its radio format in San Antonio, Texas and play it on its 1225 radio stations without regard to local music, culture, or issues.
    In January 2002, a train carrying 10,000 gallons of anhydrous ammonia derailed in the town of Minot, causing a spill and a toxic cloud. Authorities attempted to warn the residents of Minot to stay indoors and to avoid the spill. But when the authorities called six of the seven radio stations in Minot to issue the warning, no one answered the phones. As it turned out, Clear Channel owned all six of the stations and none of the station's personnel were available at the time.
    Senator Byron Dorgan of North Dakota grilled Federal Communications Commission (FCC) chairman Michael Powell over the consolidation of media in the U.S., using the Minot incident as a warning and an example. At a Senate Commerce Committee meeting Dorgan warned that as large media companies, like Clear Channel, buy up the last remaining independent media outlets across the country, the public suffers. According to chairman Powell, there is strong evidence that a lot of times local independent run stations cannot afford to produce quality local news. However, a recent study by Columbia University's Project for Excellence in Journalism found that TV stations owned by smaller media firms generally produce better newscasts
    Such branding and consolidation is counter to the FCC's mandate of encouraging media diversity. The FCC is doing very little about the results of increased media concentration. This may be a result of the relationship that exits between the FCC commissioners and the broadcast companies and their lobbyists. According to the Center for Public Integrity (CPI), media companies and lobbyists developed a very cozy relationship. As Chuck Lewis of CPI notes, "We

  8. um... by lone_marauder · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There is a difference between a media story and an editorial. While I like a good editorial, regardless of topic, do not confuse spice for vitamin.

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  9. US-centric by antic · · Score: 3, Interesting


    Is it simply that the site is US-centric, or are either of the following true:

    (a) US is censoring more important stories than other countries

    (b) US is involved in more issues than other countries

    ?

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    1. Re:US-centric by SirSlud · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The bigger they are, the more they do, the more weapons of distraction they have.

      Combine that with people's natural and understandable implicit trust of authority figures (ie, they are the most powerful, therefore they are good, no two ways about it) .. and you can see why when authority figures abuse power (communists arn't the only ones who've been known to abuse power, donchaknow) they often dont even need crazy conspiracies to cover them up.

      Peoples need to believe in the 'goodness' of their authority figures causes them to ignore or avoid personal investigation into authority figures' faults and errors.

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  10. Come on....... by brw215 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This "report" seems more like an anti-American propaganda piece then insightful journalism. Every story there revolves around how the US is part of some secret conspiracy to rule the world.

    While I would concede that we are into global hegemony and are little to quick to use force to solve our problems, this list a bit ridiculous. Take the following quote:

    Recently, Rwandan troops burnt down thousands of homes in the eastern Congo. Uganda has armed two ethnic groups, the Hema and Lendu in Ituri province and encouraged them to fight resulting in 11,400 deaths so far; the two groups have laid siege to the provincial capital, Bunia, where bloody massacres continue. This shows the extent to which the U.S. will go to plunder Africa.
    Excuse me, the US has zero to do with any of the civil wars in Africa. Zero. There are problems that can't be blamed on the US and the war in the Congo is one of them.

    The author of this article says:

    Over the past fifteen years, thirty-two of the fifty-three African countries experienced violent conflict. During the cold war years (1950-1989), the U.S. sent $1.5 billion in arms and training to Africa thus setting the stage for the current round of conflicts.

    Come on. That is outrageous. Africans are not babies, and we are not their irresponsible parents. I find talk like that extremely insulting to Africans as it suggests they are not as "advanced" as Western civilizations and cannot control themselves when presented with military technology.

    1. Re:Come on....... by philbert26 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Over the past fifteen years, thirty-two of the fifty-three African countries experienced violent conflict. During the cold war years (1950-1989), the U.S. sent $1.5 billion in arms and training to Africa thus setting the stage for the current round of conflicts.

      But did the US send the weapons to the countries that fought the wars? Could anyone with access to the numbers tell us how much of this $1.5 billion went to Egypt and South Africa?

    2. Re:Come on....... by Oddly_Drac · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "cannot control themselves when presented with military technology"

      You must be thinking of that other Rwanda. Not the one where the rivers ran with blood and bodies are still being found.

      Apparently there's this whole big thing about America keeping the peace which would kinda suggest that you;
      a) Stop selling them guns.
      b) Stop giving them loans to buy the guns.
      c) Stop accepting backchannel intelligence as an indicator that someone's your friend.
      d) Do something constructive in Africa even if it doesn't have any oil.

      Personally I think it's pretty bloody obvious that there are some countries that cannot control themselves when guns are lying around. History supports that idea.

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  11. call it \. cause it leans to the left by RevMike · · Score: 2, Funny
    Not for nothing, but virtually everything on there is a left wing issue or anti-American story.

    There once was a time when people who were interested in jurnalism were interested in balance and truth, not pandering to their political supporters.

    1. Re:call it \. cause it leans to the left by moehoward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Most folks who go into "journalism" go into it to "change the world". They have an agenda. They want to "expose the truth" with liberal use of "quotes". Having committed themselves to their ideologies at a young age stunts the normal brain growth pattern of maturing from liberalism to conservativism as you pass through your 20's and into your 30's and 40's. Hence, most journalists are liberal hippy dope smoking freaks.

      Got it?

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    2. Re:call it \. cause it leans to the left by phliar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Lean to the left? Bogus! If there's one thing we can be said to lean towards, it's love of sensationalism, esp. regarding RIAA/MPAA, SCO, latest gaping wide open Microsoft hole, etc. I myself lean to the left, which means most of the people are to the right of me. Therefore I will think X is slanted to the right, where X is any large group. So if you think Slashdot leans to the left, that just means you lean to the right. The more you think that X leans left, the more to the right you are. Voila!

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  12. Overheated Rhetoric by Steve+B · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Applying the term "Censored" to a story that got less attention than you think it deserved is like applying the term "Nazi" to the cop who just gave you a speeding ticket. It's inaccurate, stupid, and it trivializes the outrages that really deserve those descriptions.

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  13. one expatriate's opinion by AngelfMercy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I for one am glad to find good news about Argentina on this list (#23). It's very rare to actually hear good news about that country in the US.

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  14. Flawed, or sound criteria? by stomv · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While the NYT and WSJ may have lare circulations relative to other papers, they don't have large circulations.

    The fact that the NYT and WSJ picked up the stories imply that they (likely) passed the watchful eyes of editors... they're likely legit.

    And yet they weren't picked up on by papers, or =gasp!= television stations across the nation. That makes them candidates for big stories that were underreported in my book. YMMV.

  15. Just politics by semanticgap · · Score: 2, Insightful


    This looks to me like someone pushing their political agenda.

    How does this stuff make it to front page of /.?

  16. A related site by Paul+Bain · · Score: 5, Informative

    A related site is that of Accuracy in Media, which points out the many biases in mainstream media.

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    1. Re:A related site by Zigg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just from a front-page glance, I'd be willing to wager AiM and the featured PC site are really not all that related. AiM appears, from its headlines, to be a serious media watchdog site, whereas PC appears, from the many posts of the "top 25", to be a collective exercise in tinfoil-hat appreciation.

  17. NPR programs to consider... by zasos · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Democracy Now" and "Sounter Spin" are some good NPR programs to consider if you want to keep track of underreported or sensored stories.
    both are supperted by fiar.org
    you can get a cool "Don't trust corporate medida" bumper sticker there...

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  18. Re:Their site... by PReDiToR · · Score: 3, Informative
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  19. Yawn... by FatRatBastard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First off, when does "under reporting" = censorship?

    Secondly, interesting the political bent of all of these stories. What about

    * Where did all the UN Food for Oil money disppear to?

    * How much business did France and Germany do with Iraq in violation of UN resolutions?

    * How the "sactions are killing millions of Iraqi babies" stories were bogus.

    * How much of the Arab and some European press were getting paid by Saddam. ... and so on. All legitimate stories that have also been underreported, yet I don't see that site screaming censorship.

    1. Re:Yawn... by pommaq · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Haha, the UN embezzled money and the European press was bought and paid for by Saddam? I can't believe your Fox News conspiracy theories got modded up!

      The leftist slant of these "censored" stories was not hard to detect. Unlike yours, though, they were soundly based in REALITY. They were reported by press around the world but not widely picked up inside the US, because of media concentration, current pro-war sentiment, and government pressure. Really, it's not a pinko liberal conspiracy to take your SUV and your guns away. I, too, can clearly see that these stories had a political angle. That does not, however, make them any less real or any less disturbing. They're true, whether you like it or not, and trying to counter that with "well, we didn't kill MILLIONS of Iraqis, and look at Germany and France!" is not a good way of dealing with it.

    2. Re:Yawn... by 5KVGhost · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Haha, the UN embezzled money and the European press was bought and paid for by Saddam? I can't believe your Fox News conspiracy theories got modded up!

      Those dastardly Fox News conspirators! And apparently they now control the Associated Press too!

      Lawmakers see abuses in Iraqi oil-for-food programs



      The UN collected a commision on every barrel of Iraqi oil handled under the UN administered Oil-for-food program. That comes to something like $12 billion dollars total. But strangely enough, the money that was supposed to go toward humanitarian aid in Iraq never seems accompished much aid. In fact, no one seems quite sure what it was used for. How odd. The UN has denied reporters access to the records that show how that money was spent. Embezzelment? Well, a $12 billon slush fund, secret accounting records, huge piles of cash found in Iraq, and a documented history of fraud in other UN aid programs suggests that the UN probably didn't lose it under the couch cushions.

      I don't think the European press was "bought and paid for" (nor is that what the original poster claimed) but I don't think most of the journalists in Baghdad have anything to be proud of. They reported only what Hussein's government let them report, and they didn't try very hard to do otherwise. CNN, for one, has admitted that they chose their stories to keep the Iraqi government happy in return for being allowed to report from the country. And Al Jazeera is a trustworthy news outlet in the same sense that professional TV wrestlers are distinguished sportsmen.
  20. What are we going to do tonight ? by RLW · · Score: 3, Funny

    Bush: Gee, Dick, what do you want to do tonight?

    Cheney: The same thing we do every night, Dubbya.
    Try to take over the world!

  21. Re:At the risk of sounding like a troll.. by RevMike · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I'm also not trolling, but with the US governments slant to the right, anything critical of them would have to slant the other way, n'est pas?

    I don't trust anyone that starts their comment "I'm also not trolling..." but I'll bite anyway...

    The US government has an effectively miniscule power to censor. An "expose" on censorship in the US is really an indictment of the media - a media which is generally considered to have a slant to the left.

    One example we find is that the US media is currently running story after story on how badly things are going in Iraq. This is on contrast with the observation that 1) Almost all the attacks are confined to the Saddam loyalist area arround Tikrit and Baghdad, the rest of the country is fairly peaceful and 2) even moderate-to-left congressmen than have visited Iraq say things are going reasonably well.

    Please note that this is not to say that I think things are perfect by any stretch. The media tends to run stories for the purpose of ratings/circulation. Left/Right does not come into it very much at all.

  22. Uhh, they can't even link correctly. by 3.5+stripes · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Case and point,

    #15: Venezuela: Bush Administration Behind Failed Military Coup links to

    #15 U.S. Military's War on the Earth
    read it yourself here:

    http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2004 /1 5.html

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  23. Here, Censored News = Liberal Conspiracy Theories by Nova+Express · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Gosh, oddly enough every single story here seems to talk about what a nasty, horrible person George W. Bush is, and how America is an evil capitalist empire bent on global domination. There are just two big problems with this:

    1. It isn't true.

    2. In no way, shape or form is this "censored news."

    Point 1 I'll leave as an exercise for the reader (it's not like I have all day to puncture liberal theories that have already been punctured quite extensively elsewhere), but for Point 2, just take a look at their #1 "censored story": "The Neoconservative Plan for Global Dominance".

    Let's ignore the usual liberal ignorance in using the word "neoconservative" to vilify anyone who supported the liberation of Iraq, never mind that most of them have be unhyphenated conservatives their entire lives (Richard Pearle or Donald Rumsfeld, anyone?). Can anyone seriously suggest that this story has been "censored"? Liberals have been bitching about "neoconservative" this or "Wolfowitz" that for well over a yeaar. It's no secret. There's no way in hell that this "story" has been "censored." It's merely that Americans have heard their theories and rejected them.

    In fact, none of these can be called "censored stories." Did George W. Bush or Dick Cheney send armed thugs to shut down The Nation's printing press? No? Did they arrest people for publishing any of these stories? No? Hell, they didn't even arrest that asshat Geraldo for giving away our troop's positions. Some "censorship."

    All this really amounts to is one long whine: "The American media hasn't unquestioningly taken up the radical liberal view that George W. Bush is worse than Hitler! That's censorship!" No it isn't. It's a sign that America doesn't buy your conspiracy theories. It's amazing that in a country where 86% of journalists regularly vote for Democrats, these people just don't think that the American media is liberal enough.

    If this were a real list of censored stories, would every single one of them support liberals and attack conservatives? No. How about kidnapped Americans being held against their will in Saudi Arabia? There's a real under-reported story, but you won't hear about it here because it doesn't support liberal policy goals.

    Slashdot, if you want to slam the Bush administration so badly, why don't you just post an editorial and be done with it. Not only is the linked list not true, not balanced, and not fair, it's not even remotely news.

    Is it too hard to

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  24. Re:It's nothing but stupid propoganda. by bmj · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Although I've listened to Noam Chomsky, I think he has an axe to grind. I think anyone that uses the term 'Neocon' has an axe to grind.

    Does this include neo-conservatives that refer to themselves that way? It's true (sorry, no link to the actual article, but check the list of articles...).

    Personally, as a Classical Liberal that is beginning to lean toward Classical Conservativism (i.e. liberalism), I believe the neo-cons have shifted the Republican party away from their libertarian roots and towards facism packaged as patriotism (sound familiar?).

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  25. one-sided by haggar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have never heard of this Project Censored, so I decided to have a look. Well, it looked just as if it was drawn by the Arab lobby. The best of all is this: "US/British forces knowingly use illegal depleted uranium weapons in Gulf War"

    I had to smile. Why is it not news, for example, that Egypt uses the same depleted uranium in the same way, the Abrams M1 tank's armor and the armor-piercing darts (Egypt produces these and is a receiver of U.S. financial and arms aid - and if you were wondering, no, Israel does not produce M1s, nor does it receive this technology from the U.S.). Yep, but that's Egypt, not so sexy as U.S., I guess.

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  26. mod parent up? by SolemnDragon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I would like to see more on those, too. I don't mind the 'leftist" views of the stories. Republicans are not freaks of nature or madmen just because they are republicans, neither are democrats baby-killing commies just because they are democrats. And i just don't see that getting these stories more press is a bad thing: when undr-reporting is the problem, over-reporting will result in people making up their own minds (we hope.) If the story is way off-base, then the story will be seen that way by more of the viewing public. Not all american consumers are blind followers, and while mainstream media tends to show the same news in the same slant most of the time, i's because they frequently get their news from the same place. More news equals more chance to ask questions, for some of us... I'm glad to see the story on slashdot, even if it means that people will rant against the left yet again. You don't have to read the story, you don't have to read or post the rants, but it's all there in case you want to, which is i think real point. No sarcasm in my gladness to see the story and people replying to it.

  27. Re:Someone Really Dropped the Ball Posting This On by dankdirk77 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Obviously "michael" is some kind of flaming liberal who wanted to piss people off on the aniversary of 9/11. Mission accomplished, chief! You freaking goat milker!

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  28. Re:Great Book....But The Censored Book is Censored by b-baggins · · Score: 2, Funny

    Man, we really need to slap the Bush administration around. All their censored and blacklisted stories show up in a book on Amazon, and are a topic of discussion on slashdot?

    It's time to demand the head of whoever's responsible for Conspiracies and Coverups in the Bush administration. Incompetents!

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  29. It's still radioactive..... by rpi1995 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm not addressing the legality, of that I have no idea.

    Depleted uranium is still radioactive, just not radioactive that much. Weapons grade uranium is enriched. Depleted uranium has 40% less radioactivity than natural uranium, but it is most certainly radioactive.

    But then, so are some glow in the dark watches and the mesh bags from a propane lantern.

    What makes DU rounds troublesome is the burning of them, and that releases airborne radioactive particles, which many people argue about the toxicity/lethality of.

  30. The term "Censored" by yerricde · · Score: 2, Insightful

    [the application of the term "censored"] trivializes the outrages that really deserve those descriptions.

    Then why is bleeping street terms relating to sex, elimination of body wastes, and body parts used primarily therefor, commonly called "censorship"?

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  31. 69% Americas believe Saddam caused 9-11 by peter303 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A poll last weekend showed that most Americans believe 9-11 is linked with Iraq war and Saddam sponsored the terrorism. With such blatant ignorance of international events, censorship is unnecessary. Americans got the president and government they deserved.

  32. Re:Liberal? by aborchers · · Score: 2, Insightful
    No, but when EVERY one of those "censored" stories clearly have the same agenda (ie, being miles left of center), it is fair to assume that the site's reporting is pretty highly slanted.


    I have no problem with the assessment that this piece is slanted. I have yet to find a news source that is not slanted in one direction or another. What is interesting to me is how the middle-of-the-road media so effectively avoids stirring the intellects of their readers/listeners/viewers by shying away from stories with a hint of slant (unless of course it's to get on their high and mighty about "partisan politics"). I would argue it is the most slanted stories that most deserve reporting, because they challenge us to really examine both the facts and the motivations of the parties making the news. The bullshit can easily be dried out when its in the sunshine, but the media's shying from contraversial subjects does the public a disservice.

    Out of curiosity, can you point me to 25 similarly underreported stories that would compose an Ultra-Conservatism 101?
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  33. The #1 Article by AntiPasto · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I've been following this for some time... People may remember the "Truth behind 911" video that is available via Bittorrent at Suprnova (search for Suprnova mirrors via Google)

    Check out: http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmeric asDefenses.pdf

    This has been quite disturbing to everyone I've talked to about it... My wife flat out refuses to talk to be about it because it makes so much sense and is so upsetting... This has gotten a lot of press lately. Check out:

    911 and the Bush Administration
    The Guardian

    Those with Weblogs should contribute to the weblog project mentioned on Metafilter about this:
    WHO were you?

    Unfortunately, it just makes more sense that we provoked these arabic countries to either let us build a pipeline to feed China with Oil, or we would do it by force. "A carpet of Gold, or a carpet of Bombs..."

  34. Re:depleted U by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2, Informative

    WHO FactSheet on Depleted Uranium.

    Quite: (some excerpts from the FactSheet)
    Exposure to uranium and depleted uranium
    "A recent United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) report giving field measurements taken around selected impact sites in Kosovo (Federal Republic of Yugoslavia) indicates that contamination by DU in the environment was localized to a few tens of metres around impact sites. Contamination by DU dusts of local vegetation and water supplies was found to be extremely low. Thus, the probability of significant exposure to local populations was considered to be very low."

    Absorption of depleted uranium
    "About 98% of uranium entering the body via ingestion is not absorbed, but is eliminated via the faeces.
    Of the uranium that is absorbed into the blood, approximately 70% will be filtered by the kidney and excreted in the urine within 24 hours; this amount increases to 90% within a few days."

    Potential health effects of exposure to depleted uranium
    Erythema (superficial inflammation of the skin) or other effects on the skin are unlikely to occur even if DU is held against the skin for long periods (weeks).
    No consistent or confirmed adverse chemical effects of uranium have been reported for the skeleton or liver.
    No reproductive or developmental effects have been reported in humans.

    Interesting once you get past all the scarey words, isn't it?

  35. can read the "enemy's" news on the web by peter303 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I find it interesting that one can read French, German, Arab, Chinese, Russian, etc. newspapers and news agencies on the web in the USA, most with decent English translations. These provide substantially different points of view or even greater coverage than the US. For example, U.S. news avoids gruesome war images. Up to 7-8 years ago you had have shortwave radio, or trudge over to some dusty university library and read snail-mail delayed versions. When I lived in one of the above countries, with limited access to US news, it was eye-opening to see other points of view.

    Even with this unprecedented access, I still dont do this too often. You have to wade through a lot of local content and strange English. And the news everyone- in and out of the US- has a lot of ingrained editorializing which is grating after a while.

  36. Re:Liberal? by ianscot · · Score: 2, Insightful
    No, but when EVERY one of those "censored" stories clearly have the same agenda (ie, being miles left of center), it is fair to assume that the site's reporting is pretty highly slanted. Every one of those was an attack piece with damned shady "evidence". That's not news, that's propaganda.

    #1: The Neoconservative Plan for Global Dominance:

    Perhaps you'd like to hear this from American Conservative Magazine, then?

    We charge that a cabal of polemicists and public officials seek to ensnare our country in a series of wars that are not in America's interests. We charge them with colluding with Israel to ignite those wars and destroy the Oslo Accords. We charge them with deliberately damaging U.S. relations with every state in the Arab world that defies Israel or supports the Palestinian people's right to a homeland of their own. We charge that they have alienated friends and allies all over the Islamic and Western world through their arrogance, hubris, and bellicosity.

    And so on, into the intimate details of how the neocons have exercised their influence, and spelling out in detail the series of papers that laid out their rationale well before September 11th, 2001. This in a publication that has a quote from Patrick Buchanan on the header.

    Take a look at the things George Will has said recently about this administration. Has he been fronting the liberal propaganda movement any time recently?

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  37. Another un-American liberal response by XianDeath · · Score: 5, Insightful
    From what I've seen so far, the comments seem to be running to the "those crazy leftist fanatics are at it again with their conspiracy theories and unfounded accusations." This out of hat dismissal concerns me. More importantly it surprises me, given that the Slashdot crowd seems to at least be more "informed" than your average American citizen. Allow me to respond to many of the comments at once, rather than distributing my wisdom (or lack thereof) in scattered posts.

    First, as to the accusation that the site is somehow un-American (a coinage that seems to have discovered a new lease on life since 9/11) since many of the stories somehow involve US involvement in affairs that do not put us in a very glowing light I'd respond that given the United States' pre-eminence economically, politically and culturally you would be hard pressed to find a situation that through our active or passive involvement, we are not implicated in. For proof of how our passiveness affects other countries, read your history of the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. Hussein communicated to the US ambassador an interest in seizing Kuwait. When the US offered no opposition or even statement of opposition, Hussein invaded. One wonders if Gulf War I could have been avoided had a clear message been sent to Iraq prior to the invasion of Kuwait. On the other side of that responsibility is our active involvement in international affairs. On that note, take a brief consideration of our historical actions in Iran and ask if the hostility towards the US there isn't at least in a nationalistic sense, well grounded.

    As to the sentiment of un-American, this one statement can be reduced to nothing more than vitriol. I have personally been accused of being un-American and unpatriotic for at various times voicing my opposition to the policies of the current administration. Some reasonable people, who failed to call me unpatriotic before we attacked Iraq, called me that afterwards since I wasn't "supporting the troops." The very indictment is flawed and irrational. In the very essence of voicing my opposition to the opinion of the sitting President, I am acting responsibly AND patriotically. Responsibly, in that one should not grant assent to a leader just because he's in power and patriotically, in that I am upholding the very rights, which this country so magnanimously grants us. As any developer knows-critical thought is eminently fundamental to the development of any system. Political dialogue is critical thought on a peer to peer basis.

    Finally, was the site's use of 'censored' the best choice? No, probably not. Under reported and under-represented by the major media outlets? Absolutely. Even liberal leaning old me had failed to hear about several of the items on their list. What should be kept in perspective is the fact that the site seeks to highlight the information that people may not have heard too much about from their traditional sources. Does Project Censored have a clear agenda? It would definitely appear so, but then ask yourself if Fox News doesn't as well. Or ABC, NBC, CNN, the New York Times, the Washington Post, ad inifinitum. When news became business, such a thing as objective journalism went away. Why else does just about everyone in the country know the name of Laci Peterson? Can you think of one prevailing reason why her victimization trumps the victimization of millions of other people around the world? As the Fox affiliate in Miami phrased it, "If it bleeds, it leads."

    And at this point I am probably off-topic. I just felt that some contrary opinion was needed to balance the bulk of what I'd read. Immediate dismissals are just as culpable as the blind acceptance of what one's been told. If you disagree with a 'fact,' establish the reasons why without resorting to off the cuff retorts or invective filled denials. Rationally approach the problem and if you find it important enough to speak about, speak with at least a modicum of informed opinion. Or don't, and fill the ether with the tiny murmurs of blind assent and self-righteous denial.

  38. Liberal Nerd Paradox: No guns? = No Gundam by dankdirk77 · · Score: 2, Funny

    How can any true geek be a left winger? You don't believe in Guns? You don't believe in capitalism?

    You go against the tenets of ANIME, and thus your geek credentials are called into question. Hilary Clinton would ban the Buster Rifle...

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  39. Evidence? by siskbc · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Stop selling them guns.

    Let's see some evidence where American money or military has gone to Rwanda since the start of this civil war.

    Do something constructive in Africa even if it doesn't have any oil.

    What country do you live in, and what is it doing?

    Personally I think it's pretty bloody obvious that there are some countries that cannot control themselves when guns are lying around.

    I'd agree, but that 1.5 billion dollar figure to all of africa between 1950 and 1989 amounts to $40million per year for the entire continent. First, that's ancient history. Second, you can't fight a war on $40M divided however many ways. The "evidence" for this claim is ridiculous. Perhaps you can provide us with better.

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  40. anti-American propaganda by dpilot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In Al Franken's new book, he makes an interesting response to this "Liberals hate America!" type of claim.

    He says that the far right loves America the way a 4-year-old loves his/her Mommy - anyone who says anything bad about Mommy must be BAD!

    On the other hand, there is the way the mother loves her 4-year-old son/daugher - realizing that nurturing and behavior modification are needed, loving the kid in spite of flaws and helping to correct them.

    Perhaps the latter view doesn't apply to all of these items, but it is another point of view to apply toward criticism of America.

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  41. Re:Great Book....But The Censored Book is Censored by jhigh · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was thinking the same thing. One of the most underreported stories going right now is about the Federal Marriage Amendment (FMA). You never hear about it in the mainstream media because it is a movement to amend the Constitution to say that marriage is between a man and a woman, to hedge any attempts by activist judges to legislate otherwise.

    You're not hearing about it because it stands a great chance at being successful, and because it has broad support across party lines, racial lines, and class lines. The media doesn't want you to know that the majority of Americans don't support gay marriage, so they just don't report on the FMA.

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  42. Re:Here, Censored News = Liberal Conspiracy Theori by swordgeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The site is well and truly /.ed now, so I unfortunately can't get to it to see what they have to say. I did notice, however, that the title was top UNDERREPORTED stories--not censored, underreported.

    As for Bush being evil and wanting to take over the world, his entire entourage (except for Colin Powell) are members of the Project for a New American Century. Have you read their goals? Primary plans are: Extending US influence in the Middle East by instigating regime change in several countries, starting with Iraq; and Undermining and reducing the effectiveness of the UN. All of this is because they feel they have a moral obligation to lead the world into a future that serves the interests of the US.

    This is not a crazed leftist conspiracy either. It is the publically stated goal of the organisation that Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, et al. founded several years before Bush got into power.

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  43. Re:Liberal? by burrows · · Score: 2, Troll

    American Conservative Magazine was put together by Conservatives that expressly believed that Neoconservatives were a problem, if not an outright conspiracy. That was the whole rationale behind the magazine's inception - to act as an alternative to the predominantly neocon mags such as National Review. So quoting them is like pointing out that kooks at both extremes of the political spectrum believe that black helicopters are watching them. Might as well tell us what the John Birch Society thinks of Neoconservatives.

    Regardless, Pat Buchanan's endorsement of a magazine does not make it's hysterical claims any more reliable than those of Mother Jones or Pilger.com. What do you expect?

    You: "It's a Neoconservative Conspiracy!"

    Me: "What makes you think that?"

    You: "The administration is trying to rebulid our military's might, and American Conservative Magazine is critical of neocons, and George Will is sometimes critical of the current administration."

    Me: "Oops. Okay, you caught us. It's a conspiracy."

  44. Re:Great Book....But The Censored Book is Censored by crotherm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The media doesn't want you to know that the majority of Americans don't support gay marriage

    They don't? Links please. BTW, it matters not to me if 2 men or 2 women want to form a lasting legal relationship and call it marriage. It does not effect my marriage one bit.

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  45. Re:Great Book....But The Censored Book is Censored by aengblom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Uh, I read The Washington Post and don't have much trouble finding out about it. They've also had a bunch of editorials etc.

    The Post also did a nice big fast A1 lead story on its own poll finding that the majority of Americans don't support gay unions.

    This despite that the Post as an employer is gay friendly, is in a gay-friendly city and is gay friendly editorial-wise.

    Heheh I read your blog for a second too. Calling America's liberal's "socialists" just shows you have no idea what you're talking about. This country, including most "liberals" balk at even the most minor shifts towards "social democratic" type of institutions, which are a far cry from socialism.

    Anyway, you outweigh the liklihood and support of the FMA.

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  46. Re:Great Book....But The Censored Book is Censored by robson · · Score: 2, Funny

    Great Book....But The Censored Book is Censored!!

    ...but the censored book comes with a free frogurt!

    ...but the frogurt is also censored!

  47. True Throughout History by useosx · · Score: 3, Informative

    All this kind have stuff has been going on throughout history and has been censored. The United States has played a large role in state terror, obviously starting with the Native Americans. Britain, Russia, China, everyone has done it and is doing it in the interest of maintaining power. Read Understanding Power by Noam Chomksy if you want a really in-depth look at the history and the reasons. This isn't whiney liberalism, this is a straight analysis of fact with a reasonable adherence to well-accepted moral codes, a lot of it quotes from declassified U.S. Government documents. All heavily footnoted. I highly recommend it.

  48. Taliban Massacre by maynard · · Score: 3, Insightful
    #11: U.S. Implicated in Taliban Massacre
    Yes, we did kill a lot of them. Fortunately, there was no conspiracy there. WAIT! Because we funded the enemy of our soviet enemy when they were our enemy, that must mean the Taliban was, is and will always be our freind. Get married so you can find out about how friendships change over the years.
    To be honest, I haven't read the article in question since project censored appears to be suffering a nasty bout of /.ing. However, I assume they're referring to the film Massacre in Mazar, a documentary film which investigates the claim that US troops were directly involved with mass extrajudicial executions, along with the killing of several hundred in a train. If these allegations are true they would implicate US troops of clear human rights violations and war crimes of the first order. Beyond the US abrogation of the ICC war crimes treaty, such behavior would abrogate our signing of the Geneva Convention 53 years ago.

    Note that I am not stating that US troops did engage in such behavior, only that there are journalists who claim they have evidence in support of such allegations. That such a story was buried instead of followed up vigorously by the media speaks volumes of their priorities in war reporting. Whatever your political persuasion, you must admit you would want to know if your country was violating a long standing treaty like the Geneva Convention during times of war. Wouldn't you?

    --Maynard
  49. Re:Liberal? by F34nor · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What you don't realize is that in the current climate (the media being owned by the same people who make the weapons used in war e.g. GE/Westinghouse etc.) the news is right of center. In this case right does not refer to "conservative" and "liberal" but to "Laissez-faire Capitalism" and "new deal."

    Also remember that this "liberal media" never grilled the current Bush on his war record, (being put on the "Champagne Flight" the name for the Texas Air National Guard, or that he went AWOL from it when he ran for congress (and lost) in Texas.

    Conspiracies are conspiracies and damning the press (or anyone else for that matter) for believing that something wrong was right is silly. e.g. AIDS conspiracies.

    Do I damn Bush, Cheny, et al. for lying about Uranium, WMD's, Terrorism is Iraq? Well yes I do but they lie a great deal more than the media.

    Did you know that the Bush family was charged under the "Trading with the Enemy Act" and had all of their possessions taken away from them? Why? BECAUSE THEY SOLD WAR BONDS FOR THE NAZIS AFTER WWII. Is that a vast right wing conspiracy? No it's pure greed. I think that it skips a generation in the Walker Bush clan.

    Also you use the word CENSORED like it was a guy in a dark suit that ran into the office whacked the author on the head and ran out with THE ONLY FLOPPY! Give me a break. Censorship happens at a level of editor's body language. It happens at authors wondering subconsciously if they should really run a story about PCB's and GE when they work at a NBC affiliate.

    And for the record there is something wrong with being liberal. Are you fiscally liberal? Socially Liberal? Give me a break. Paranoid people find the holes, paranoid liberals are the Linux hackers of our social fabric. You make it seem like we should trust vertical social monopolies to find the truth. Do you trust Microsoft to find the truth in your OS? Then why would you insinuate that you can trust NBC/GE or Disney (you know the people who want to restore the power of oligarchy through unlimited copy right extension.

    Use you critical skills on the media for 6 months then ask the same questions again.

  50. Pick your agenda!... by __aagmrb7289 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This has been stated less clearly in other responses to this "project", but let's be clear here - hypocrisy is bad. And when you point to articles that have been "censored" (which doesn't mean they weren't published, just that they weren't front page news on all the major outlets), and these articles are all obvouisly tied to a specific agenda (and ignore articles that we find interesting - for example, most of the open-source communities' response to SCO), then you invalidate your ability to present this information with honesty, accuracy, etc. Bottom line - this "project" is pure propaganda. I don't recommend ignoring it - these stories should be read, and understood. But screw the "conspirancy" feel - that's bunk.

  51. Leans a little to the left ?? by bs_02_06_02 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    From a quick look, it seems like the author leans a teensy bit to the left. Paranoid about right wing conspiracies? Still p*ssed about Alger Hiss? The author might want to spend a little less time hanging out on college campuses, get a job, pay taxes, and spend some time asking why 50% of income was just lit on fire by liberals who then start screaming for more money.

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  52. Not biased: Project Censored Hit Clinton Hard Too by SilentMajority · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you read the list of underreported stories during Clinton's administration, you'll see that Project Censored is not biased.

    And for those of you who haven't taken the time to study government or history, "liberal" is not a bunch of welfare-requesting hippies any more than "conservative" is not equal to corporate corruption (Enron, et. al.)

    Look past the biased bullshit dished out by both the left and the right and learn to think for yourselves.

    "How do you know?" and "Where did you get your info?" are among your best friends.

    ps

    I happen to think the media was extremely biased against Newt Gingrich in years past but now the exact opposite is happening: the media is overrun with neo-conservatives who try to spin any criticism of our government (one of the most cherished American freedoms) into "liberal bias" or "treason". Since when is opposition to corporate corruption or support for campaign finance reform or simply stating FACTS considered "liberal" or "treason"?

  53. Re:Liberal? by siskbc · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Also remember that this "liberal media" never grilled the current Bush on his war record, (being put on the "Champagne Flight" the name for the Texas Air National Guard, or that he went AWOL from it when he ran for congress (and lost) in Texas.

    They couldn't, because 1) liberals never win on a war angle, and 2) Gore spent the war hundreds of miles behind the lines as a "journalist" thanks to his father, Sen. A. Gore Sr.

    Did you know that the Bush family was charged under the "Trading with the Enemy Act" and had all of their possessions taken away from them?

    First, Bush Jr. wasn't even alive in WWII, so that's just moronic to criticize him over. Did you know that Kennedy's father was a bootlegger and a racketeer? No? Do you care? Second, let's see some evidence, the Bushes aren't even German.

    And for the record there is something wrong with being liberal.

    No, but claiming it as representative or "news" is. When you have an extremist position and no one cares what you have to say, don't complain when no one listens. That's not censorship, that's just supply/demand in the marketplace of ideas.

    Paranoid people find the holes, paranoid liberals are the Linux hackers of our social fabric.

    I think you're overinflating the importance of yourself and people like you. For that to be consistent, you'd have to at least include paranoid conservatives as well, but I suspect you don't want to listen to them. Put your money where your mouth is and make sure to read some ultra-conservative propaganda as well. Otherwise you're simply a hypocrite.

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  54. Re:Here, Censored News = Liberal Conspiracy Theori by egrinake · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, as others have said, it's not about censorship, but about underreported stories. And when you see how the US press does it's "reporting" these days, it's no wonder why they are underreported. But don't take my word for it, Greg Palast is an american reporter (living in the UK), and he wrote the following in a recent book:

    "I freely offered up to CBS this information: The office of the governor of Florida, Jeb Bush, brother of the republican presidential candidate, had illegally ordered the removal of the names of felons from voter rolls - real felons who had served time but obtained clemency, with the legal right to vote under Florida law. [...] The next day I received a call from the producer, who said, "I'm sorry, but your story didn't hold up." And how do you think the multibillion-dollar CBS network determined this? Answer: "We called Jeb Bush's office." Oh."

    What it boils down to is that reporters generally don't bother to actually investigate and report anything anymore, they mostly just cut and paste from official press releases (there are exceptions, thank god, such as BBC news).

    Anyways, what bothers me is that it is true - the neoconservatives want world domination. And they're not even trying to hide it. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and many other friends of Bush are part of a neo-conservative think-tank called the Project for a New American Century. To quote from the PNACs official website: "The Project for the New American Century is a non-profit educational organization dedicated to a few fundamental propositions: that American leadership is good both for America and for the world; that such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle; and that too few political leaders today are making the case for global leadership."

    There is an excellent, well-researched article on GNN by a former british member of parliament, Michael Meacher, on how Afghanistan and Iraq both are part of an PNAC plan on establishing a US presence in the middle-east to secure future oil-supplies. This plan was first described in a document, called Rebuilding America's Defences, which was published by PNAC in september 2000.

    I want you to just please read the article (it won't take more than 10 minutes of your time), and then tell me something's not going on here...

  55. Individualism vs. corporatism by RevMike · · Score: 2, Interesting
    ...if you think Slashdot leans to the left, that just means you lean to the right.

    If I was going to compare slashdot to myself, then it is leaning so far to the left that it is horizontal. From now on I'll call it dashdot (-.).

    On a more serious note, however, the labels "left" and "right" only tell part of the story. There is a second dimension of political philosophy that measures the degree of individualism supported by that philosophy. There are individualists and anti-individualists on both sides of the left-right spectrum.

    For example, when the right wing lobbies for relief from anti-monopoly laws, they are advocating a reduction in individualism. When the left lobbies for trade unions they also advocate reducing an individuals rights. The extremes of these positions are fascism and communism. As a practical matter fascist and communist societies look very similar because the are similar. Both systems foster the reduction of the individual to some greater good. All that differs is the window dressing used in their propaganda.

    In opposition to these forces on the right wing are the libertarians, and on the left are the Civil Libertarians. Both groups seek to limit the ways that individual liberty is undermined.

    The corporations that control the media are not intrinsicly left or right. Corporations act in their self interest and tend to support either the left or the right depending on where that self interest lay in that particular issue. Corporations are, however, anti-individualist.

  56. You fall in the same trap by ThinWhiteDuke · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While I fully agree with you that this censorship stuff is just some wackos with an agenda whining that nobody cares for their conspiracy theories; I can't help adressing the issues you raise:

    * Where did all the UN Food for Oil money disppear to?
    Food for oil, I don't see much money in that deal. No money can't disappear.

    * How much business did France and Germany do with Iraq in violation of UN resolutions?
    None that I know of. Of course I have seen a lot of this crap on public forums or frog-bashing sites. But no report of those on any remotely reliable source, not even on Fox News (only exception is an op'ed column by William Safire in the NYT, which allegations have been denied by the US administration itself). Given the unusually aggressive stance the Bush administration has taken against those countries, I guess that any credible lead on that subject would have been leaked to the press in no time.

    * How the "sactions are killing millions of Iraqi babies" stories were bogus.
    Economic sanctions are a useful tool to destabilize a regime or prevent it from endangering its neighbours but you have to admit that the population ends up paying the highest price to them. It might eventually be worth the price (South African Apartheid regime) or not (Cuba comes to mind). In the case of Irak, I guess that the food for oil program somehow prevented the most severe famines but I don't know of hard facts. Do you have them?

    * How much of the Arab and some European press were getting paid by Saddam
    Come on! You're not saying that any media that voiced opinions differing from the official White House point of view were sold to Saddam, are you? And which countries do you target in "some European press". Given your post's general tone, I guess you include France and Germany. But what about Spain, England or Poland. Even though these countries participated in the "Coalition of the Willing", their press (and public opinion) were mostly opposed to the war. Do you think the Blair administration would not have noticed or would have allowed it if the BBC was paid by Saddam? Do you know that the BBC is state-owned?

    This whole hate story between the US and some other countries is childish and now sickening, with so many people dying. IMHO, all of this is the consequence of over-reaction from the US coupled with underestimation of the 9/11 trauma by most foreign countries. Add a layer of really poor diplomacy from both sides and you get the current diplomatic mess.

    These conspiration theories and aggressiveness from both sides are really NOT constructive. Americans must understand that the reason why some countries opposed the war is that they genuinely thought that it was a Bad Idea (TM) that would not cure terrorism and may generate new problems. This has nothing to do with hatred of America of some more sinister goals. On the other hand, I think that the US (even the neocons) genuinely thought that Saddam's demise would help fight terrorism and bring more countries toward democracy. Considerations such as world hegemony or oil are absurd or secondary. President Bush's style and personnality is also secondary in comparison to the primary goal of bringing stability to Iraq. IMHO, he's not a very good president but I'm not saying that because of a European or leftish stance : I personally think that John McCain would have done a better job than both Bush and Gore.

    Sorry for that long post, I guess I had to write it down somehow. And a disclaimer : If you hadn't guessed it yet, I'm French.

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    1. Re:You fall in the same trap by FatRatBastard · · Score: 3, Interesting

      * Where did all the UN Food for Oil money disppear to?
      Food for oil, I don't see much money in that deal. No money can't disappear.


      Well, you don't walk into a grocery store with 10 gallons of unleaded and trade it for food. Oil gets sold, money buys food, food goes to Iraq... or at least that's what was supposed to happen. The UN got a nice "administation" cut off the top, but no one seems to know exactly where those billions went. And as much as people like to point the finger at Haliburton and claim they're a bunch of war profiteers its interesting how no one brings up the TotalFinaElf scandals and their involvement in some very, very shading dealings in Iraq.

      * How much business did France and Germany do with Iraq in violation of UN resolutions?
      None that I know of. Of course I have seen a lot of this crap on public forums or frog-bashing sites. But no report of those on any remotely reliable source, not even on Fox News (only exception is an op'ed column by William Safire in the NYT, which allegations have been denied by the US administration itself). Given the unusually aggressive stance the Bush administration has taken against those countries, I guess that any credible lead on that subject would have been leaked to the press in no time.


      See the TotalElfFina articles above. Plus, the Germans and the French were trading *a lot* with the Iraqi gov't in the late 90s. It would be interesting to see just how "liberal" their interpretations of the sanctions exactly were. I think its been underreported.

      * How the "sactions are killing millions of Iraqi babies" stories were bogus.
      Economic sanctions are a useful tool to destabilize a regime or prevent it from endangering its neighbours but you have to admit that the population ends up paying the highest price to them. It might eventually be worth the price (South African Apartheid regime) or not (Cuba comes to mind). In the case of Irak, I guess that the food for oil program somehow prevented the most severe famines but I don't know of hard facts. Do you have them?


      This assumes that if there was no oil for food program there would have been "severe famines" which also seems to be a pretty unsubstaciated claim. What looks like what happened was Saddam hyped up and played the "starving" baby angle for all it was worth. The "food" he got for his oil didn't make it to the Iraqi people. If you average $5billion a year in aid and spend $13million on healthcare, that's a lot of money unaccounted for.

      * How much of the Arab and some European press were getting paid by Saddam
      Come on! You're not saying that any media that voiced opinions differing from the official White House point of view were sold to Saddam, are you?


      Not at all. What I am saying is that there were reporters/editors in the Arab press who were getting money (commissions, bribes, call it what you want) from the Iraqi gov't to file reports that were sympathetic to Saddam. There was speculation that some European editor/reporters were pocketing cash. That, as far as I know, hasn't been proven, but the point of this entire /. article is about stuff that hasn't gotten a lot of attention. There's been no followup as far as I know.

      And which countries do you target in "some European press". Given your post's general tone, I guess you include France and Germany. But what about Spain, England or Poland. Even thou

  57. If only you were right by ianscot · · Score: 2, Informative

    So far you've dropped the charge that it's exclusively liberal propaganda that's the story here, which is what I was answering. Moving on:

    So you have a few articles from some nutball conservatives who wants America to take over the world.

    Not quite there yet, but you seem to have read a little bit of it this time, so I'll give you another bite: We have a few articles from some "nutball conservatives" -- your words -- who want America to take over the world who are presently in positions within Bush's cabinet where they weild enormous influence, and who urged Bush's current Iraq policies on Clinton back in 1998.

    Ever hear of Paul Wolfowitz, and Don Rumsfeld's, and Dick Cheney's, roles as founding members of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC)? PNAC is what Pat Buchanan is writing about, here -- they've enunciated the 'strategic vision' Buchanan's quoting from at length, and did so back in the late 90s in various papers on the subject.

    Why does this register as a story that should be covered more? Because they laid out their plan for attacking Iraq well before Sept 11th, 2001 -- placing it squarely within the context of their "creative destabilization" ideas about the middle east. They urged Clinton to go to war against Iraq and remove Saddam because he was a "hazard" to "a significant portion of the world's supply of oil". They also called for America to go to war alone, attacked the United Nations and said the US should not be "crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity in the UN Security Council". In 1998.

    Here's the letter on the PNAC's Web site.

    Other members of PNAC: Bush's current Pentagon adviser, Richard Perle; Richard Armitage, the number two at the State Department; John Bolton and Paula Dobriansky, under-secretaries of state; Elliott Abrams, the presidential adviser for the Middle East and a member of the National Security Council; and Peter W Rodman, assistant secretary of defence for international security affairs. The letter was also signed by Zalmay Khalilzad, Bush's special envoy to the Iraqi opposition; ex-director James Woolsey and Robert B Zoelick, the US trade representative.

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  58. Re:Here, Censored News = Liberal Conspiracy Theori by Zak3056 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All of this is because they feel they have a moral obligation to lead the world into a future that serves the interests of the US.

    I would submit to you that the leaders of the United States actually do have a moral obligation to lead the world into a future that serves the interest of the US.

    The US government serving US interests?! Stop the fucking presses!

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  59. Re:left-wing by JonathanF · · Score: 2, Informative

    I agree that they're opinion and should be viewed carefully, but it's a bit fallacious to say "stop complaining, you have it better than someone in country X."

    At least in those countries, censorship is patently obvious. In the US (and Canada, to a lesser degree) censorship is simply hidden under the guise of private reporting by corporations and the myth that they're just practicing free speech. Most people assume that CNN, Fox, etc. are accurate because they aren't directly linked to the government and give the appearance of objectivity in their style.

    The fact is that these companies are run by people with their own agendas. Whether they're connected to the government or not, they routinely engage in selective omission of stories and images that don't favour their point of view. It wasn't hard to notice this just by watching TV in the run-up to the war in Iraq: most American stations weren't really questioning the validity of the US government's WMD claims, and Fox in particular was in a "rah, rah, go USA" mode.

    If you think you live in a country of freedom, watch the CBC in Canada or even the BBC (whether it's BBC World or otherwise). You'll be surprised at just how slanted the US media really is.

  60. conspiracy? I'm a thinktank theorist. by Heisenbug · · Score: 2, Insightful

    OK, if a conspiracy is a bunch of people getting together and planning to take control of the government, then I have a conspiracy theory for you. It goes like this: there's a group of people in power now whose stated purpose is to use our military to shape the rest of the world to benefit America.

    You're right that many Americans have heard this theory and rejected it. This is a bit surprising -- considering this 'conspiracy' has a website:

    http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofpri nc iples.htm

    If there are Americans out there who still reject this theory, then I would say by definition that the story is underreported -- because no one responsible is trying to deny it. The linked page, which is undersigned by Wolfowitz, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and, of all people, Quayle, is pretty upfront:

    "We aim to make the case and rally support for American global leadership. [...] Does the United States have the resolve to shape a new century favorable to American principles and interests?"

    From another page:

    "The successful disarming, rebuilding, and democratic reform of Iraq can contribute decisively to the democratization of the wider Middle East. This is an objective of overriding strategic importance to the United States, as it is to the rest of the international community - and its achievement will require an investment and commitment commensurate with that."

    As long as we discuss motives for invading Iraq outside the context of this objective, I would say this angle is decisively underreported. Call me a thinktank theorist.

  61. Re:At least it proves the media isn't liberal by hesiod · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > Because if the media were liberal than these would be OVER-reported

    Except that these are not news, they are lies & speculation (mostly the latter). Regardless of whether you think the "media" slants to the left or right, (or, *GASP* neither) they won't put out crap like this that has very little basis in fact.

  62. Geneva convention by Miqel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Interestingly enough, we (the US) has not signed the entire Geneva convention. We do abide by most of it, but compbat troops are trained to follow the Law of Armed Conflict. This is a US Dept of Defense product that may contain some of the same considerations as the Geneva Convention, but is not exactly the same. FWIW

  63. Re:Here, Censored News = Liberal Conspiracy Theori by cje · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Have you considered the idea that perhaps most Americans like the idea of making the world more like us?

    And the 19 hijackers that flew planes into the WTC and Pentagon two years ago liked the idea of making the world more like them. If you believe that the totality of your culture is superior to each and every other culture on the face of the Earth, then you will obviously want to make the rest of the world more like you. This does not mean, however, that the rest of the world is obligated to become more like you.

    It's an interesting choice of words, by the way; "making" the rest of the world like us, as opposed to "helping" the rest of the world become more like us. The former implies force and compulsion, whereas the latter implies aid and assistance.

    Also, can you understand why the "Project" guys might /want/ to make the rest of the world more like the US?

    I certainly would want to make sure that other peoples and nations who sincerely want help to reform their societies and governments gets whatever assistance they need, but I cannot support the (thoroughly bizarre) notion of "imposing freedom." America should lead by example, not by force. America should be respected and looked up to, not hated and feared. Nations and groups who actively decide to make an enemy of America should fear our capabilities, but the recent oderint dum metuant policy of this administration has gone far beyond that.

    The PNAC's agenda is pretty transparent: a "New American Century", regardless of whether the recipients of said Century actually want it or not. And that's horribly, horribly wrong. If the underdeveloped world is to become more like America, it should be because it wants to become more like America, not because it's been forced to. If we have to resort to military force to spread our way of life, then we've taken a very long stroll down a very wrong road.

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  64. Re:Here is some real censored news by Qrlx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What do you think happens to the narcotis pipelines that our DEA busts up?

    Ever wonder why drugs are just as prevalent as they've always been, despite 20+ years of "war"?

    There should be little doubt in your mind that governmental organizations on both sides of the border have fingers in the pie.

    Nobody mentions it because it would be political suicide. You're correct to assume that both parties are involved. The narcotics trade is too profitable.

  65. What is wrong with being left wing? by theolein · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I read all these posts by angry American men whose sense of patriotism is dented because someone believes that perhaps D Rumsfeld and Co, perhaps were not so interested in WMD as they claimed they were and perhaps not so keen on Iraqis actually ruling themselves.

    What a shame.

    Wrapping a flag around one's face in blind patriotism and then running into a lamp post is not conducive to clarity of vision.

    1. Re:What is wrong with being left wing? by phoneyman · · Score: 2, Informative

      There's nothing wrong with being left wing, but most of the crap on this "censored" list lacks even the remotest pretension to any kind of journalistic standard. It literally reads like an agenda for the "violent-protest-of-the-week" crowd. Bush, Rumsfeld, and Co. are extremely interested in having Iraqi's run their own nation. If only for the reason that it would be the most profitable thing, both economically and politically, for them to do. They are well aware that installing yet-another-despot is a mistake; a mistake they made with Saddam, a mistake they are still suffering for with the Al-Saud clan, and a mistake they don't have much interest in making once more. Yes, it's American self-interest, but it also just-so-happens to be Iraqi self interest as well, according to some reports they even have pr0n now - and that, my friend, is freedom in action. As for WMD, I'm willing to bet it's there - somewhere. Nations are still digging up WMD that was buried in WWI and WWII. Hell, the US itself is still trying to find some WMD they buried themselves, in their own backyard. Germany is checking allegations that there are still hidden bunkers with live Nazi ordnance buried under the Munich airport. It's fine to be left wing, but you can't buy in to every bullshit story some nutbar at IndyMedia dreams up. Pierre

  66. Re:Liberal? by gobbo · · Score: 2, Informative
    Second, let's see some evidence, the Bushes aren't even German.

    Gosh, let's see: try this, or you can just check out the Straight Dope, he's a pretty good skeptic. The grandparent post is confusing Prescott with the rest of his family, although they all benefited from dealing with the Nazis.

    At least one of those links will take you to pdf scans of some original corporate records, which should be enough proof. BTW, the point that they aren't German is exactly the point to be concerned with! What does "Trading with the Enemy" mean to you? And while you're at it, investigate some of the Bush family dealings with the bin Ladens, very entertaining.

    make sure to read some ultra-conservative propaganda as well. Otherwise you're simply a hypocrite. -- some of this story's discussion would qualify! Lots of liberal-baiting, with nary a substantive rebuttal in sight, lots of kneeJerks.

    When you have an extremist position and no one cares what you have to say, don't complain when no one listens. That's not censorship, that's just supply/demand in the marketplace of ideas.

    Wow, do you actually believe that it's extremist to be concerned that people don't know that their non-elected government has planned global domination by force for decades, and that their current actions are falsely justified? That concern is extremist? Wow.

  67. Re: Why Censor When You Can Debunk & Ridicule? by SilentMajority · · Score: 4, Insightful
    We all know that censorship doesn't work as well as it used to in the past.

    The best strategies are to debunk, ridicule and associate valid stories/opinions with undesirable words/people like "communists", "lefties", "conspiracy theorists", etc.

    For example, when interviewing "people off the street" make sure you have only the wackos presenting opposing views while you pick out "decent-looking, well-dressed" people to present your own views. And if there aren't enough people who share your views, hire some people off the street or go with local actors/models if your budget allows. Even if both views get equal airtime, the opposing views will be associated with ugly weirdos and who the hell wants to share the same views as them even if they're right?

    A similar strategy is to hire strong-looking & charismatic tv/news personalities that support your own views while hiring ugly-assed & uncharasmatic "wimps" to offer very pitiful opposition. I'm sure you can find a decent example of this tactic by watching TV.

    As you can see, your previously unpopular views can be easily associated with "winners" and opposing views are associated with "whiners, losers, traitors, communists, etc." without resorting to outright censorship.

    The best part of this strategy is that it works because the average joe-sixpacks don't understand how to detect bullshit.

    To sum it up: associate undesirable words/concepts/people to opposition and associate desirable words/concepts/people to your own views and don't let the pesky facts or Truth get in the way because perception is usually more important in manipulating the public.

    This of course goes hand-in-hand with manipulating opinion polls and surveys by carefully crafting questions in ways that lead people to pick desired answers and then hiding the exact original wording of these questions when presenting the results to the public.

    Who needs censorship when these tactics work so well?

  68. Re:Liberal? by gobbo · · Score: 2, Insightful
    those "censored" stories clearly have the same agenda (ie, being miles left of center)

    That's just perspective: you're using a zoom lens because you're so far away, and it's causing foreshortening. Those articles are centre-left from my point of view, and I know people who are WAY WAY left of me, even miles. The political spectrum is much broader than that offered in the corporate media.

    "The media don't tell you what to think, but they DO tell you what to think about." I forget who told me that (probably Communication Studies 110), but it's relevant.

    damned shady evidence -- OK that is troll material, since these are fairly well-researched before nomination, and you don't even bother with substantive rebuttals.

  69. Censorship of Whacky Socialist Propoganda by nanodik · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I like a good conspiracy myself, but I prefer them to come from a more imaginative perspective than from some group trying to push a political agenda. These are censored news stories because there was no news to censor, only conjecture. Let's examine the list:

    1: The Neoconservative Plan for Global Dominance - If these guys had done their homework they would have found out that the neo-cons are just a smoke screen for the real group scheming for global dominance, the Illuminati and the Bilderbergers!

    2: Homeland Security? Yeah, yeah John Ashcroft is going to rifle through your undies drawer. That's why I left a particularly nasty pair on top for him!

    3: US Removes Pages from Iraq Report - This was just part of the "Paperwork Reduction Act" which unbelievably applies to all reports done by 3rd world dictatorships. Besides, I think the 8,000 pages was actually included in Hillary Clinton's best seller "Living History" and credited to a ghost writer.

    4: Rumsfeld's Plan to Provoke Terrorists - BFD, he does that every time he appears on Fox News. If it's underreported, it's only because the reporters are now afraid to speak to him for fear of looking like the stupid, vacuous idiots that they are.

    5: The Effort to Make Unions Extinct - This got plenty of coverage by the press...in India!

    6: Closing Access to Information Technology - Why would you need the FCC for this when you have geeks putting out stuff like the Nachi worm. Besides, if you turn off the pr0n pipe you'll have geeks in the streets with torches and pitchforks within an hour.

    13: US Military's War on the Earth - Well, we are working on conducting war in space but those damn Greys never show up for the fight. I am all for fighting wars on Mars for instance because if CNN and FOX had to get live coverage, we might actually end up with a Martian explorer that worked!

    19: U.S. Dollar vs. the Euro - Now there's an explosive headline for you. Have a news outlet run this as a top story and they'll have an audience to rival that of NPR...come to think of it I think NPR actually led off with this story yesterday.

    22: Welfare Reform Up For Reauthorization and Still No Safety Net - Translation: we had to go out and get a job and now we have less time to write about how the Bush administration is screwing minorities, women, children, immigrants and the environment.

    What you have here is a list that reads like a promotional brouchure for the Communist Party of the USA. I really think Slashdot ought to keep the postings to LEGITIMATE conspiracies rather than the political rantings of some wash-up, has-been commies out in California.