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Hands-On With The Nokia N-Gage

CokoBWare writes "Finally! Gamesindustry.biz has done a hands-on review of the Nokia N-Gage cellphone/games machine. The results don't impress the judges much, but I suppose the consumer will ultimately be the judge."

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  1. Oh, good... by ckafura · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...another thing to distract people while they're driving.

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    1. Re:Oh, good... by Tofino · · Score: 3, Funny

      Indeed. While in the UK recently we took a coach from Gatwick airport to Heathrow, about a 50 minute drive. From high up in the bus you could see all the truck drivers' activities. From casual viewing, we saw no less than four truck drivers fiddling with their cell phones at length, either texting or playing games, WHILE DRIVING their bloody great lorries. Glad to get up in the air where it's safe...

    2. Re:Oh, good... by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 4, Funny

      Worst I ever saw was on the interstate that runs N/S along the Vegas strip in NV. A woman was driving with her windows open and her head ducked down trying to light a cigarette without the wind blowing her lighter out. She ducked back up just in time to notice all the cars across all four lanes were stopped. She locked up her brakes, spun completely around and slid across three lanes of traffic right in front of me, and came to a complete stop on the right shoulder, thankfully facing the right direction. She then proceeded to finish lighting her cigarette and pulled back out into traffic.

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    3. Re:Oh, good... by Amorpheus_MMS · · Score: 5, Funny

      ... and there is an autopilot while the pilot is busy rescuing the princess.

    4. Re:Oh, good... by jeblucas · · Score: 3, Informative
      Well, here would be the place to check for such real numbers, but I'm sure the study is either not started or still ongoing. I think we all feel safer knowing that the 15-person bus rollover study is completed though.

      I remember listening to a report on NPR by someone from the Illinois equivalent of the NTSB and he had some good reasons for why cell phones are more distracting than stereos or even in-car conversation: Cellphones keep the driver distracted by a non-traffic sensitive other. Most drivers can work the radio without looking at it. Most passengers in the car can see when things are getting hairy traffic-wise and shut the hell up. Random on the cellphone doesn't know where the hell you are and can't tell you about the semi making a wide right.

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  2. Another hands on review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    As mentioned here, from IGN Wireless.

  3. Penny-Arcade by da3dAlus · · Score: 5, Funny
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    1. Re:Penny-Arcade by ErikTheRed · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, but this version is so much more poignant (in one frame, no less)...

      For the link-phobic:
      http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2003-05 -19&res=l

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  4. WHY DID THEY DESIGN IT LIKE THIS? by garcia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In order to put a game into the system, you have to: turn the phone off, take the back cover off, remove the battery, slide out the existing game, put the new one in, put the battery back in, replace the back cover, hold down the power button for several seconds, wait for the system to boot up, open the main menu, select the game, open it... And then your game starts loading.

    Ok, so the thing LOOKS cool but is it functional. Apparently not. Who the hell wants to fumble around with removing a battery, sliding out an old cartridge, sliding in a new cartridge, and then replacing the cover?

    The wait issue is of no relevance to me, who cares, what I care about is having to hold thirty things in my hands while I fumble around trying to switch games.

    In this day and age, and all the devices that have come out (especially handheld gaming units) why would ANYONE think that this design would be acceptable?

    Just my worthless .02

  5. Cellphones that play games VS Gameboy Cellphones by FileNotFound · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is pure opinion, but I am certain that the Ncage will fail.

    Thing is, most people buy cellphones for the purpose of staying in touch. The games are just a feature. It's much easier to justify $300-400 for a great phone which will provide crystal clear sound etc than for a very expesnive gameboy.

    I just don't see myself or any 'adult' wanting an ncage. Sure the "adults" may play games on their PDAs and cellphones, but they didn't buy them for that purpose. The people who buy ncage will be doing so purley to play games, I don't see the gamer market being crazed about cellphones. The kids on the other hand would proably rather have a GBA nor would they have the money for an ncage.

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  6. problem: ngage by VAXGeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    solution: buy a game boy advance and a cell phone.

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    1. Re:problem: ngage by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or how about a GP32 and a phone?

      BTW, don't buy a GP32 is you aren't technically adept. It's not a GBA. It's not much harder to use than a MP3 player, but it's not idiot proof like a GBA.

  7. I'm not banking on it... by cmowire · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not banking on it. Why?

    The phone companies in the US will try to provision it to death, like they do everything else, which knocks it out here. But that's just the start.

    You are knocking out a lot of the prospective audience by making it a games device first and a phone second. You can get away with having your employer buy a phone with games, as long as it doesn't look like a GBA. You can get away with buying a PDA and putting games on it because it still looks businesslike. This screams "I'm playing games". Older folk aren't going to go for it, which leaves the younger folk, who aren't necessarily going to have enough cash.

    It also doesn't bring any cool network functionality to the table. All of the games are just that... games. I might as well get a GBA and a phone. No MMORPGs. You have to use cartrages and they are a pain in the rear to install, instead of just letting you download stuff.

    Of course, they may make the v2.0 or v3.0 version actually good.

  8. Are you so sure about that? by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 4, Funny
    The results don't impress the judges much, but I suppose the consumer will ultimately be the judge.

    Really? What if the consumer is a construction worker? Or a student?

    Or imagine a scenario where they sell two N-Gages--it could be a judge and a construction worker!

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  9. The Important Question... by lord_paladine · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...I suppose the important question is, does this model spontaneously burst into flames?

  10. So when will they come out with the HO-Gauge? by Buran · · Score: 4, Funny

    Inquiring minds want to know...

  11. Wait for PSP!! by stratjakt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The gameboy owns the handheld world. It is nintendos domain.

    Better specs have not won the fight. The Neo Geo Pocket, TurboGrafx Xpress, Sega Game Gear and Nomad, Lynx, Game.com.

    Many have come, many have failed.

    Playstation Portable sounds like it'll be the first handheld to give the gameboy line a run for it's money. But I'm not banking on that either.

    Nintendo promised some amazing new revolutionary whizamajig for next year. A successor to the GBA? A successor to gamecube? Who knows...

    But, my bet is a portable gamecube. This is purely speculation, but it makes sense. The miniDVD format for GCN games has always been a bit of an enigmah - until you think about a handheld device... You could squish a gamecube into something handheld for the price of an nGage..

    Maybe I'm dreaming, but hot damn that'd rock. Even if it was a different console, but they had "hybrid" games, ie, one version plays on the gamecube, a "lighter" version for it's portable sibling..

    Anyhow.

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  12. To hell with this...get a GP32 by gpinzone · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why no Slashdot articles about the GP32 and all the development efforts on that system?

  13. Re:How Long... by netsharc · · Score: 3, Funny

    Forget Half-Life 2, will it run Doom 3?!?

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  14. Re:Bah what a crap review.... by stratjakt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Having to dismantle the thing to replace the cards sounds super lame. Do you have to take the battery cover off a gameboy, remove the batteries, switch game, replace batteries, replace cover? No, because that would be retarded.

    My Kyocera 7135 phone with built-in PalmOS has a nice side-loading SD slot, so what's the dilly-o with Nokia?

    Those SD cards aren't just small and easy to lose, they break realllllly easily.

    If they make it to nGage Advance, it'll have a handy side-loading slot, that autodetects the cartridge without powering off, just like my phone does now.

    (Btw, this kyocera phone is a buggy pile of shit - it gets "fatal exceptions" when it rings and the battery cant last 24 hours in a stretch, lest anyone think I'm praising it)

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  15. Good Idea, But.... by joel8x · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Its a shame they didn't pay attention to detail. The problems outlined by the article will definitely steer me clear of the system all together. A horrible UI, pain in the ass to change games, can't listen to the MP3 player at the same time as playing the games, etc.

    I disabled all of the extra features on my cell phone because they weren't worth the extra $ every month. I tried to buy tickets for a movie once on it and when I went to pick them up they handed me 3 pair of tickets when I only ordered one! The UI for the browser would bring me pack to the confirm page each time I opened it - I decided then that the service was not ready for prime time.

    I come from the school of "design the device/application to do its primary job right and do it well". If your going to try and sell me on half assed features, then I'm not buying. My phone handles phonecalls well and thats why I bought it. The NGage looks uncomfortable as a phone, and falls short on everything else.

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  16. All in what?? by MhzJnky · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Am I the only one that dosn't want to make calls, store my calander, play games, listen to MP3's, email, IM, Text Message, all on the same device. What if I deside I want a better game player, what do I do with the rest.

    Not to mention a GOOD mp3 player is $200, good portable game system is $100, PDA: $250, Cell Phone: $200. So unless this thing cost $750 what's the chances of it not stinking in atlest one (if not more) of these areas.

    Oh, and I'm not buying the component reuse argument. A good PDA screen dosn't make a good Cell phone screen. Plus then all you get is a bunch of software emulated hardware function.. whoohoo

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  17. Re:Cellphones that play games VS Gameboy Cellphone by gl4ss · · Score: 3, Interesting

    it's not very easy to justify 300-400$ to a phone just for speaking, unless you just like shiny things.

    fyi, you can get phones for much under that are perfect for 'just getting clystar clear sound', even in market areas where tying the phone and provider is illegal(that is, in finland for example). the 'crystal clear' sound hasn't been an issue for the last 5 years anymore(as long as the phone stays in one piece and doesn't break up), except of course in areas with poor gsm operators who don't think it's important to have good coverage throughout the nation(finland isn't exactly packed with population in the rural areas, but the phones work flawlessly). things like battery life(which you can't feel when buying the phone) and stylistic features and now real extra functionality have become the things to seperate yourself from the market.

    the thing is.. it's also a s60 phone(and afaik, it's going to be the _cheapest_ s60 phone available, not sure on that though), allowing you to run symbian apps(c64 emulator, gbc emulator, read ebooks, read slashdot, wipe your ass, develop stuff for it with freely available tools, does your dishes, let's you get the latest news, use as a remote control for your pc through bluetooth, have bluetooth dongles at both work and home and use it as a data transferer.. it has pretty wide array of geeky uses), so it's not just a 'phone' anyways. it also has a memory slot for relatively cheap media(compared to sticks&etc) that's available too, easily in any pc store.

    and as for why people buy cellphones.. they need to have it, it's no longer considered an option to have it, everybody has it and is pretty much expected to have one as well. when they get tired of the old phone(or if/when it breaks) they pretty much 'have' to get a new phone, some go for the looks, some go for the geek features, some go for the pop features and small size.

    while i do agree(heck, i've heard that even nokias engineers agree) that it is retarded to have the mmc card under the battery(dunno, maybe the original design team thought that it would be only changed every once and then?).

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