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GNOPPIX: Bootable GNOME CD
ubiquitin writes "While KNOPPIX has been around for some time, the GNOPPIX project has only recently made its first release. The main difference is that it lets you boot into the GNOME desktop environment. Usually forks are more trouble than they're worth, but given the limits of what you can compress onto a single CD, separate projects makes sense to me. Hopefully more widespread recognition will also bring about a few more mirrors."
There are other knoppix remasters of gnome. See the full list, or try a few direct (morphix has had gnome for a while) links.
Then it gave up.
Too unstable, too unreliable, too much work to keep up. Meanwhile, KDE Just Worked.
Things might be better now, though.
--Dan
morphix.sourceforge.net
>Currently, iso's with XFCE4, Gnome2.2, KDE3.1 and a game iso are available for download! Morphix is an Open >Source/Free software project, based on Debian GNU/Linux and Knoppix. For more information, check the FAQ
Now had it been Gnome 2.4... that would have been news. :)
Donald 'Duck' Dunn: We had a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
It could, but there are many other, better, bootable distributions for that sort of thing. Three with a security (and thus forensics and recovery) twist that are all more useful in that sort of situation are:
F.I.R.E
knoppix-std
l.a.s.
In Knoppix, you get to choose the window manager at boot, and there are more options than just KDE. Some of us don't even use KDE, if that's believable.
Off the top of me head, I know of Knoppix, Morphix, Damn Small Linux, and Puppy Linux.
There are a few others, but I don't remember them off the top of my head.
Can I get an eye poke?
Dog House Forum
Knoppix
DamnSmallLinux
Knoppix Mini Cd
OpenGroupware Live CD
Moppix
Gnoppix
Quantian Scientific Computing Environment
Freeduc
L.A.S.
BlueEyedOS
Oralux
and others I can't presently remember.
Knoppix used to have gnome on it (accessable via a cheat code
Such is my understanding anyway, I've never used a version with Gnome, but there's plenty about it on various messageboards (it got removed before the latest versions because it had "problems" - hopefully this version is what it seems to be on the site - a completely seperate distro, and not just a hack of knoppix that is plagued by the same problems)
Just boot Knoppix with the "txt" option at the commandline you like so much to run a text only version of Linux.
Except with Knoppix, the 'K' isn't silent. Knoppix is from Knopper, which is a German name. Unlike English, the k in kn is pronounced.
It's as useful as Knoppix, or should be. The thing here isn't so much about usefulness, after all Knoppix already does the job, but about preferences. Some people will simply prefer Gnome. Gnoppix gives them that. All the usefulness of Knoppix with the interface they want.
Or someone just thought it'd be a neat idea and acted on it.
Either, there is no loss, only gain. And for the record, I do not use Gnome myself.
I don't subscribe to RMS's GNUtopian vision.
there's plenty now...
GLUE
Knoppix for kids
Freeduc
The list is growing as more people experience the advantages of the Knoppix concept and make their own specialist version.
Donald 'Duck' Dunn: We had a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
Support is included in the lates Knoppix 4.2 release.
Help fight continental drift.
For a good list of LiveCDs, check out Distrowatch.com list of run-from-cd distros.
"Some things have to be believed to be seen." - Ralph Hodgson
I saw this posted on Debian Planet a few days ago and already downloaded a copy.
Unless you speak German, or are very familiar with the GNOME interface you're going to have a hard time using this. Booting with lang=en and setting your session type to en_US still won't switch the language to English. Now I have a nice coaster with "GNOPPIX 0.5" written with a Sharpie on it.
Too bad too. The only reason to get this over Knoppix or Lnx-BBC is for GNOME. Save your bandwidth for a few versions at least until the English support gets fixed. This is really a "too early to be slashdotted over" release, and they're going to lose a lot of potential users because of it's current condition.
It's also missing vital tools that all other live cds have, namely the ability to set up TCP/IP. The GNOME Network thingy didn't work, dhclient didn't work, there's no pump.
Gnoppix has potential to fill a nice little niche in the community, and when it's ready it'll be cool. But unless you're planning on helping out as a developer, wait on this one.
Gnome was removed from Knoppix for space reasons earlier this year, but yeah, before that you could put desktop=gnome at the boot prompt and run Gnome.
Just checked out Knoppix on a new laptop and noticed there wasn't any APM (APCI) support built in the kernel. Does anyone work on a cd to be used for a basic working linux install on a laptop?
anyway, Gnoppix will be using Morphix's install/configuration tools. I've talked to Sven of the Gnoppix team, and it seems like they don't like inventing the wheel again, so we'll work on them together (now just to convince them on using our modular design, but we'll leave that for another day). You can read his notice here.
Currently we have the (gtk2) installer and a few configuration tools, but a (gtk2) partitioner is nearing completion which will replace cfdisk, together with a few new tools bundled together in a control-panel-thingy. Debian is too nice to be user-unfriendly :)
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Ka-nop-ix
If that sounds too silly for you, like Disney's Tigger trying to say "ka-night" or "ka-nife", try whispering the schwa that you insert between the K and the N. After a few times of saying that, you'll fall into the correct pronunciation of a non-English KN cluster (which is incidentally how KN was pronounced in English before it lost initial stop-nasal clusters).
Will I retire or break 10K?
ACtually, I know everyone's ignoring this post because it's by an AC, but he's got a very good point. Knoppix makes a Debian install absolutely brainless. I've used other distros before (Red Hat, Mandrake, Lycoris, mostly user-friendly desktop distros, I'm a Linux fan but not a hardcore Linux hacker, I just want an Open Source/Free desktop that *works*), but friends and net people kept telling me how much Debian rocked, how apt-get was better than sex, etc. etc. etc., so when I got my hands on a old PII machine, I decide to try and install Debian on it. I downloaded the official Debian CD's, and tried to do the installation, and suffered through the whole thing, muddling through as best I could. Even having set things up as well asI could, I ened up with a nearly unbootable system, X wouldn't start properly, and I was sorely dissapointed.
;), and I remembered that there was an option somewhere in there to do a HD install from the CD, and that it basically turned into Debian when you were done, except with a whole bunch of handy apps installed allready. A bti of googling later, and I had the recipe for it. Needless to say, the install went without a hitch, and was very easy. Knoppix took care of all the sticky hardware config issues, and I just had to set a few prefs, before I ende dup with a perfectly usable Debian system. Some editing of my apt sources and one apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade later, and I was running the latest bleeding-edge Debian unstable, and finally experiencing the coolness of Debian for myself.
;)
Then I remebered my trusty Knoppix Cd, which I sue to caryr around a Linux desktop everywhere and to show people that Linux *is* indeed useable for everyday tasks (I've gotten a few converts that way
Frankly, the Debian folks would do well to take a cue from Knoppix and integrate its kickass hardware detection into their own installer (with an option to do the usual manual install and config for those geeks who actually know what theyre doing.
"Two things are infinite: the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the first one." - Albert Einstein
Nevertheless, a GUI can make life simpler, even when rescuing.
Knoppix does offer a failsafe boot option in case its fancy hardware detection program doesn't work, as well as the option to not start X, i.e. stay at the console. The fact that its CD-ROM based also means it can fit in a more rescue tools in comparison to 1.44 MB disks.
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Yes, Knoppix is a painless way to do an installation that trivially converts to official Debian. There is no catch that I am aware of.
Moderators: while the comment itself seems fine, this user is a troll, it is not the *real* Miguel de Icaza from Ximian.
Look at his post history and you'll see.
Please mode him down as a troll; no one should be playing such games here;
The real Miguel:
http://slashdot.org/~miguel/
Yes. And over a year ago, I scrounged around the lab for a thrown-away PC just so I could try Knoppix, for the first time.
/dev/hda[1|2|3|4|5]' to save me! Well, that was my *first* impression. It melted into shocking admiration when I discovered no hard drive in the chassis (was a really scavenged box).
My impression: Piece of shit!!!!
Try as I may, I couldn't 'mount -t ext2
Been a loyal Knoppix fanatic ever since. [Gushes]
In fact I was at a customer's site, last week and the customer wanted to move their ACT! DB to a centralized server (I'm not making this up). They were running Windows 95 on a PC they had manually used as a "central" ACT! DB for years. The OS wouldn't configure the NIC card I gave it, so...
You guessed it: Knoppix to the rescue! I had that DB off the machine in less than an hour (rsync'ed to a Samba share on the main server).
Mike, you wanna pass the plate around?
With Knoppix you can just enter
at the boot prompt and it gives you a wonderfull Gnome2 desktop.
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One by one the penguins steal my sanity...
LUFS does what you want -- it will allow you to mount locally to/via ftp, ssh, gnutella, gnome vfs, memory cards, and CE devices.
Here's a discussion of people wanting to include it in the boot scripts for Knoppix.
Knoppix is able to go beyond the 740MB-ish limit of the CD by using the cloop module.
:wq
What is cloop? Well, according to the README of the source file it is "a [k]ernel module to add support for filesystem-independent, transparently decompressed, read-only block devices".
Rusty Russel is listed as the original author. Klaus is listed as bug fixes and extensions.
cloop can be found here.
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