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UK RIP Bill Reintroduced

AIM31 writes "The amendments to RIP bill in the UK, which gives the power to read email headers and history to such bodies as the Postal Service, is back. with amendments. Last time it was rejected after massive protest."

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  1. Power mad Blunkett by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This bill is yet another in a long line of bills being introduced by David Blunkett

    Compulsory ID cards being another.

    The fact that a local council can get the information disturbs me, as I have worked for one, and know how sloppy they can be.

    I only hope next election we vote them out, as all the promises they originally made (eg Freedom of Information) evaporated, and instead we get more draconian measures

  2. Re:Hi. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Canada. You can join the flood of "evil" potheads & free thinkers fleeing the police state that the US is becoming. And I know we aren't evil. But to George Bush and his cronies we sure are.

  3. encryption by Neophytus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As protest last time a group sent the then home secretary a bunch of encrypted emails. It would have actually been illegal for him to recieve them because of the poor wording in the bill - you had to be able to decode anything that you recieve.

  4. Not a Bill by 00_NOP · · Score: 5, Informative

    Point of fact: this is not a Bill, the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act has already passed into law. What this is about is the statutory instrument needed to gave various parts of it effect in law.

  5. whistleblowers look out by close_wait · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Suppose I worked for a local council.
    Suppose I suspected a council officer of corruption.
    Suppose I tipped off a journalist from my home phone or email account.
    That council officer can now obtain a complete record of everyone I've phoned or emailed in the last year, plus the fact that I recently visited www.howtoreportcorruptcouncilofficials.co.uk.

    This is scary.

  6. Re:Whatever... by CaffeineFreak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ah, but the RIP bill makes it an offence not to decrypt a message when requested.

    Saying you forgot or lost the encryption key is not a defence.

    Remember, under this law you are assumed guilty and have to prove your innocence.

  7. This Labour party by mantera · · Score: 5, Insightful


    I wonder what George Orwell would've said about this.

    What really pisses me off is that this second coming phenomenon has been used too often by labour to pass unpopular bills. When something proves massively unpopular, yield to public pressure and withdraw it, sleep on it for a while till people forget and then slip it when they hardly notice and public momentum has faded.

    Blunkett has introduced the most ludicrous of suggestions and laws. I really don't see how he be a minister of anything. He has no respect for people. Not teachers or police officers. How is expanding investigatory powers to 500 other bodies, 500 other bodies!, will contribute to reducing crime and its prevention?

    Oh wait, it's to help collect taxes, oh, wait, it's to save lives. Such sloppy excuses. Throw in your "noble" excuses, guys!

    Crime in the UK is bad! bad! and the police aren't too bothered about it, most of the time they don't bother to investigate anything, they just take over the phone and advise you to contact your insurane company. Have you ever contacted the police about a theft or a burglary? They just don't give a damn! and yeah like any criminal would use email now that they know it's being snooped! Soooo retarded!

    DAMNIT, I'M ANGRY!!!

    And this retarded idea that "if you have nothing to hide you it shouldn't bother you" shows great ignorance of privacy rights, as if those concerned about privacy are actively criminal or have things to "hide". DAMNIT!!!!!!!

    aaaaaaargghhhh i hate them!! i viscerally do!

  8. E-mail Privacy by ultrasound · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Prior to the RIP act, (it is speculated that) the UK and US have had for many years reciprocal agreements to spy on each other's populations using Echelon, neatly bypassing any issues regarding spying on ones own population.

    However i think that since 11/09/03 no one gives a toss about the niceties of civil liberties, i.e. Dept. of Homeland Security and RIP. Your privacy has been sacrificed on the altar of political expediency.

  9. Time to mail those mps by griblik · · Score: 5, Informative

    Full list of MPs and email addresses

    Seriously people, I've mailed my mp about a few things, and had an smail reply each time. Keep it polite and sane, because you know they'll ignore an uninformed rant, and you don't want to waste your time, right?

    I suggest simply dropping them a few lines to explain that Blunkett's been pushing several highly unpopular ideas and blatantly ignoring public opinion, and if he continues, well, I for one will be voting for the opposition purely to get rid of him.

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