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New VOIP App. Profiled

sniggly writes "Cnet News.com has an interview with Kazaa co-founder Janus Friis about their latest product Skype. Skype is a p2p VOIP technology that quote '... is addressing all the problems of legacy VoIP solutions: bad sound quality, difficult to set up and configure, and the need for expensive, centralized infrastructure.' Windows only beta client available."

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  1. And the major thing all VoIP was missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pop-up ads and spyware! Now when you mention the right world, it'll be replaced with an ad. "I'm going to go drink a soda" becomes "I'm going to go drink a refreshing ice-cold Coca-Cola."

  2. Re:Is it wierd that ... by flafish · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Making modifications to the Materials or creating derivative works based on the Materials is prohibited, as is using the Materials on any networked computer environment or other website."

    Huh? Then how the heck can you use it?

  3. I can see it now... BabyBell propaganda campaign by rushfan · · Score: 5, Funny

    The next wave of bell propaganda will be "If it's not copper, it causes terrorism".

    Sounds like a good idea, after all Apple's trying to make video chat easy to use for the mases... Maybe Kazaa should also implement the same specs that Apple is with their iChat.

  4. teamspeak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    use teamspeak: teamspeak.org

    has excellent sound quality, is free, has windows and linux clients and servers...

  5. They found the money by TransistorTv · · Score: 5, Insightful

    According to their FAQ there is no spyware. However it suggests that there is an Skype to fixed landline phone / mobile phone feature on the horizon. So they're marketing plan is probably, create a viral product, get everyone to use it, add a valuable service ( make a cheap call to your friends mobile on the other side of the globe ). So I don't think they need the spyware this time, and the apps quality is quite good also, although I would like to see conference calls implemented. Just hope we'll get a linux client soon.

  6. Migration by trolman · · Score: 5, Insightful
    This is the Free version of Voice over IP that will get the masses involved. The upgrade path is Vonage and company. This is a great thing. Thank you Kazaa Skype.

    The 911 argument is and will come every time that VoIP is mentioned mostly due to the huge effort that went into building the system by alot of players. Getting the physical addresses changed and databased was big and kudos to those involved. This 911 effort is now built out and everyone is mapped so now all voice services can take advantage. Do not forget that every cell phone and telephone in the USA is required by federal law to be usable to call 911 out of the box and that no service activation or account holder is required.

    Disclaimer: I use Vonage, turned off Bell South, and am a Geek.

  7. Hmm alternatives by Daath · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There are several similar applications out there, the oldest I can remember off-hand is Speak Freely which does secure p2p.

    Right now we use Ventrilo internally at work - it's not secure, but we can do conferencing in super quality with VERY low bandwidth! It's excellent!

    --
    Any technology distinguishable from magic, is insufficiently advanced.
  8. Very Misleading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I went to the Skype page. It says you can "Make free phone calls - all over the world!".

    So I gleefully download the client and setup an account.

    Wrong. No capability to actually call anyone's telephone.

  9. Proprietary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Odd pairing of questions and answers in the FAQ:
    Can I use other clients, e.g. Windows Messenger to connect to the Skype network?
    No you can't. We have crafted Skype with a proprietary technology that is not compliant with other clients at this time.
    Can I use Skype to send instant messages to my friends who use AOL/ICQ?
    No. AIM and ICQ uses proprietary closed protocols and make no efforts to be compatible with other IM systems. You should get your AOL/ICQ friends to use Skype instead :-)
    Did the same person write these two answers? Our proprietary protocols are good, theirs are bad. It boggles the mind....
  10. Two questions, and a suggestion for an alternative by General_Corto · · Score: 5, Informative
    Quotes relating to the two questions here are from the Skype help FAQ.

    Q1. key exchange?

    What type of encryption is used?

    Skype uses AES (Advanced Encryption Standard), which is also used by U.S. Government organizations to protect sensitive, information. Skype uses 256-bit encryption, which has a total of 1.1 x 1077 possible keys, in order to actively encrypt the data in each Skype call or instant message.

    And the key exchange is handled by... ? AES is a symmetric cypher, so there has to be some kind of key exchange. I'd like to know what that mechanism is, or if there's just one key and they can listen in on anything. After all, who'd need spy-ware if the whole thing was insecure by design? Oh, and if they've reinvented a bunch of cryptologic libraries, look out - there will most likely be fresh exploits to be had.

    Q2. Why the lock-in?

    Which protocols does Skype use?

    Skype uses a proprietary protocol which we have developed. We looked at many available protocols when designing Skype and none were good enough for us. We hope you agree!

    Okay, so they're trying to make a buck or two here eventually, but touting a proprietary protocol as being a good thing is usually not a good sign. People buy Microsoft Office though, so I guess it's not that big a deal for the average person.

    Suggestion. Would someone (or some group) restart development on Speak Freely?

    Okay, so this is a bit of a sidetrack, but it's a valid point. There is a large body of tested code available for doing most of this kind of thing, and it's called Speak Freely. However, on the downside, John Walker (Mr. AutoCad to you) has decided to cease development, as of August 1 2003 (yes, that's in the past). All the code is at SourceForge, (both Unix and Windows) so you can go wild with it.

    Something to think about.