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Can Recent MS Patents Affect Mono and DotGNU?

5p1urge asks: "I really love the Mono and DotGNU projects. As someone who's worked in Java for for over 5 years, I welcome C# and it's buddies to the OpenSource world. However, here's question: as far as I can tell, only the C# spec and System.* assemblies were submitted to ECMA and therefore made officially public. What happens when MS decides that, Linux -is- going to steal valuable income-generating business, and therefore it should use it's newly acquired patents to sue? I'd appreciate comments from IT lawyers / solicitors and individuals with experience in this area, as well as from the wider community. I'm asking this question because I want to code in mono / DotGnu but I'm cautious because I wonder if MS can take it away from us?"

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  1. Answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Troll

    No. Those patents will not affect Mono and DotGNU, and IAAL.

    Next question.

  2. Re:Call me stupid by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 0, Troll

    Is it faster? No

    Yes. It is.

    Is Development Faster ? No

    Compare the amount of lines in a Java program to the same program done in .NET.

    Is it cross platform ? No

    Um, hello? Mono?

    Does it do things that other languages cannot? No

    All languages do things their other languages cannot. It's called the difference between those languages.

    Your post is just FUD from the looks of it.

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  3. Re:Longhorn by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 1, Troll

    That's what I said: eye candy. Well, this is coming to Linux as well, though in my view it really is icing on the cake, and nothing more.

    Vector-scaled graphics are not eye candy. It allows resolution-independent displays where everything is the same size regardless.

    So I guess the Longhorn version of MS Office will run on Linux (+mono) after all!

    Doubtful.

    Apart from hot-swapping RAM (and this one I'll believe when I see it)

    Windows Server 2003 already allows you to add RAM without rebooting. Longhorn will allow both adding and removing.

    these are not revolutionary changes. If there is a demand for them, you'll see them in Linux before Longhorn comes out.

    I'm sure there will be demand for them once Longhorn comes out.

    I'm sorry, but I don't consider Paul Thurrott to be a reliable source of information.

    Why wouldn't you consider him a reliable source of Windows information? Considering he has actual sources inside Microsoft and all. Most of his Longhorn information is from the WinHEC, complete with screenshots. You're just being difficult to be difficult.

    Working in the software industry, I've long since learned to be careful of hype-spouting, FUD-spreading "advocates" such as he.

    Oh, please. I don't care about your "working in the software industry." The guy has his information from sources inside Microsoft. He's a well-known Windows guy, announcing betas and codenames before anyone else knows them.

    The usual X11 myth, in other words.

    It's not a myth. There are tons of windowing libraries and interface inconsistencies, all running into each other. This has already been admitted by many people before me.

    But in fact, even though some people experience performance issues with X11, the fact is that it's not a broken model, but rather one that is both solid and evolutive - especially since it's not tied to the Window Manager/Desktop Environment.

    In other words, performance is broken, but it works, so keep it!

    "Evolutive"...?

    Oh, and nobody really cares about "inconsistent interfaces":

    Yes, they do.

    Heck, read up on GNOME's infamous save dialog sometime. Or Xine's open button ("://").

    I mean, Windows has had them for years, and no one has been complaining!

    Windows apps look the same, with standardized interfaces. It's a gamble when you use Linux desktop apps. One might use Motif, another GTK2, another QT1, and so forth. Again, you're being purposely disagreeable because you don't want to cede a point.

    The fact is that it's relatively easy to theme apps so that their widget sets and icons all have the same appearance.

    What does that have to do with poorly-designed, conflicting interfaces? XP can skin its widgets too.

    In other words, it's a false problem, repeated ad nauseam by those who feel threatened by Linux's slow but irreversible march on the desktop.

    Someone who dismisses criticism so easily is a perfect example of exactly why Linux's march on the desktop is very, very slow and only occuring within Linux advocate circles. It will never become mainstream at its current position. The Linux desktop needs a radical changeover, because KDE and GNOME aren't gonna cut it. But I guess having tons of apps starting with "G" or "K" is good enough to pass your desktop standards test.

    Yes, that was reactive, but you should expect this when you troll with your sig. I saw BS, I called it, you didn't bother to try defending it. That's really all there is to say about it...

    I don't need to defend it. Numbers speak for themselves. How am I trolling by merely linking to an article that states the same thing? If I were really trolling, you'd know it clearly.

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  4. Re:Not the right question IMHO by Pov · · Score: 0, Troll

    Yes, all of them. I like the idea of modding certain things up because they are particularly interesting, but modding things down is a little too close to censorship for me. Sure, the Goat.se is an obvious troll, but if everyone spent their 5 points modding up instead of down, the same purpose would be served as the trolls would be drowned out by the higher rated posts.

    The problem I see right now is that if one group outnumbers another group then not only do that group's posts get modded higher, but the other groups get modded down which puts alternative but no less valid ideas down in the gutter with the trolls. I would get rid of the +5 cap also. Let the good (or at least interesting) ideas soar.

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