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Senate Approves Measure to Undo FCC Rules

fortheloveofjava writes "The Washington Post says here that the Senate voted 55 to 40 today to wipe out all of the Federal Communication Commission's controversial new media rules, employing a little used legislative tool for overturning agency regulations. If you signed the MOVEON.org petition, an image of part of it is visible here with sponsoring senators Senators Byron Dorgan (D-ND) and Trent Lott (R-MS)."

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  1. Mixed feelings. by Sheetrock · · Score: 4, Insightful
    On the one hand, I appreciate diversity in television, and would hate to see it disappear. So the idea that they're taking strides towards that is encouraging.

    On the other hand, I believe such diversity will only be strengthened by allowing the people with the most resources free rein to develop channels/media as they see fit. You get duplication of effort now (CNN, FOX, MSNBC), where later we could perhaps have two or three media giants offering a broader spectrum (CNN Politics, CNN Music, CNN Sports).

    So in a way I wonder if we should be upset about this.

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    1. Re:Mixed feelings. by mystik · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem is --- if one organization owns all channels tv, radio or otherwise, they are tempted to weave their biases into every program they produce.

      By requiring a duplication of effort, it assures the public that there will be differing viewpoints presented to them, so they can hopefully do their own thinking. It is true that it makes the market less efficent, but I believe that this is a neccesary sacrifice.

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  2. Re:What worries me most by fjordboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There was a quote in the article that mentioned that even if the bill does go through, it basically just rolls back the legislation to June 2, which isn't a bad deal for most involved. This doesn't repeal everything that the FCC wants, it is just giving them an option to "try again." I wouldn't worry too much about Bush vetoing it, even if he does, with this much of congress against the FCC in this case, I think they'll revise the bill of their own accord.

  3. So what power does this leave the FCC with? by Osrin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Doesn't this mean that they're effectively impotent from this point forward, or am I misreading it? I'm English... if parliament vetoed something like this it would spell the end of the agency.

  4. Re:What worries me most by the_mad_poster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And that surprises you? This is Bush we're talking about. He's hardly been a shining example of fairness, intelligence, and respectability so far.

    A white house veto isn't necessarily the death of it though.. it can still go back for a vote and get passed if it gets a 2/3 vote in each Chamber. That bastardized version of a president we currently have isn't all powerful just yet...

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  5. Re:What worries me most by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Typically, a bill that doesn't get the 2/3 majority the first time around won't have it the second time if needed to override a veto. It'd take having the political environment shift during the time in between to make several Senators who voted "no" the first time to vote "yes" the second time.

  6. Choice by mopslik · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The new FCC rules were championed by FCC Chairman Michael K. Powell, who argued that consolidation was less a threat now than when the rules were enacted because consumers have many more choices for their news and entertainment.

    Sure, there's ClearChannel-Affiliate-1, ClearChannel-Affiliate-2, ClearChannel-Affiliate-3... Really, is there that much more choice out there? Internet broadcasting, maybe, but the folks who run their own stations are still being harassed by the tax-hungry powers-that-be.

  7. Re:Why does the FCC have so much power? by gmhowell · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In essence, the FCC, part of the executive branch, is being given equal status to Congress. To override the FCC, Congress has to pass a new law (which the President has threatened to veto). Congress would then have to override that veto.... requiring a supermajority to regain *their own lawmaking power*.


    Which is as it should be. The FCC is an agent of the President. It is the executive branch in this particular domain. The congress wants to override the executive branch. The president doesn't want this. Therefor, it takes a supermajority to override the president. Pretty much like every other situation where the congress wants to override the executive.

    Pretty much since 1783, the executive and legislative branches have been co-equal. Huh, imagine that.

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  8. Don't Worry (Be Happy) by MBCook · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Well, I don't think Bush will veto it. If he has said he would veto this measure (I think I've heard that too, but anyways) I think it's more of a "I'll probably do it because of some little reason, but my mind isn't made up that's just how I'm leaning" kind of thing. Even if it's not, a presidential veto can be overturned. If enough people complained to get the house and senate to go and try to reverse it, they can get a veto over turned. That said, since so many people don't like this legislation, it wouldn't be smart to try to go against it (by vetoing) from a purely political standpoint, especially with an election comming up (although thankfully Bush doesn't just do whatever the polls say, he thinks for himself).

    I don't really think we have alot to be worried about. This will get overturned and all semi-right with the world (in regards to FCC policy) will be returned.

    PS: For the record, I support Bush. Full disclosure or whatever.

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  9. Re:That photo... (OT) by nearl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think you missed the point. They do dress like the people the represent. They just don't represent the people you think.

  10. Re:wait by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, their primary concern (the most discussed issue on the senate floor) was the effect this would have on local political coverage.

    Right now, your local NBC affiliate can decide that they're not going to run some reality-TV show tonight, instead they're going to run local political debates. If NBC owned every local station, the local decision making would be removed, and you'd decrease the amount of airtime that each congressperson received for campaigning.

    Congress has always been unnerved about the implications of this latest FCC change, but not for the same reasons you and I were. If the FCC comes back with a way for consolidation to occur while preserving the current type/amount of political coverage, I'm sure it would go through without any fight at all.

    The public backlash just lets those two pricks try to look like heros.

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  11. Re:And just think... by realdpk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're right! I remember when those FCC rules were on the ballot a few years back and I was thinking to myself, "man, I really should pick yes or no here, but .. I don't know. I'll leave it blank." Damn!

  12. Re:Why does the FCC have so much power? by mph · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Which is as it should be. The FCC is an agent of the President. It is the executive branch in this particular domain.
    You miss the point. Despite being a part of the Executive Branch, the FCC is essentially serving a legislative function (deciding what the media companies may or may not do, rather than simply enforcing laws passed by Congress). Thus, you're weakening separation of powers, by transfering certain legislative authority to the executive.
  13. This decision does promote diversity... by M-2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...the original decision would have allowed the equivalent of a Clear Channel situation nationwide for television and newspapers, as well as outright crosspollination between the two. Which could mean you'd get the Fox News Washington Post and the CNNew York Times, and lead to an even greater polarization in news reporting between the moderates and the right. (There's no real 'liberal press' anymore.)

    There's no real impetus to create that broad spectrum of events - the general intent seems to be to create a single nationally-acceptable product and show it everywhere, in order to sell more ad time and make money.

    The only place we're really getting any 'diversity' is in the pay channels, which aren't dependent on commercials and therefore can take chances. So if they want to make something different like 'Queer as Folk', or 'The Sopranos', or 'Dead Like Me', they can, and if people watch it, it was a good experiment.

    The more diversity in channels, the better it is. If you have three news channels like CNN, Fox and MSNBC, you have three different points of view, and therefore possibly a better chance of getting an idea about what's REALLY going on.

  14. Re:This is bad folks. by kfg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh, don't worry, it's not like one powerful media mogul could manipulate the populace and government into a war or anything.

    I'm sure those nasty Cubans really blew up our battleship. I read it in the paper.

    KFG