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Investigating Infinium Labs
the web writes "By now, the whole world has heard of Infinium Labs and their infamous Phantom Game Console, but what do we really know about what could be the next big gaming console or the people bringing it to market? At this point, we know little beyond what they've been willing to share. We haven't seen the console outside of a few 3D renderings, we haven't seen the facility where they claim beta units are being built, and we haven't seen the Infinium Labs base of operations." Our own Roblimo has found some reality to the Phantom console.
from the link: "Infinium Labs is an industry-leading global entertainment and interactive game company."
How on earth can you be an industry leader when you haven't shown anything yet? Hell, I could claim "GrubCorp(tm) is an industry-leading global purveyor of anti-cancer drugs and massage oils." without having gotten off my lazy ass to do anything.
Don't be suprised to hear that they're planning to get more investors in the near future..
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This whole thing feels like a pump and dump from the very beginning.
OK, so it's an Xbox made by a different company - although it sounds like they're doing the impossible and writing even more draconian licensing terms than even MS..
What, you dorks seriously thought it was all a big hoax or scam?
So these guys think they can package PCs as consoles, and sell a subscription based service.
Good luck to them. They'll fail.
PC games and console games are practically a world apart. As a rule, console games don't play well on a PC, PC games dont play well on a console.
Not only do they have PS2/NGC and Xbox to compete with, they're doing so with an inferior product, and one that customers have shown repeatedly they DONT WANT.
People want to go to the store, buy the game, and own it. They don't want to "liscense" it. They dont want their libraries limited by how much space this thing's hard drive has.
This is DIVX for the game industry. It'll be stillborn.
What would be a killer plan, though, would be to revamp the "Sega channel" idea, but do it like this: sell an adaptor for xbox or ps2/ngc with hdd addon, broadcast playable demos on the channel 24/7. No monthly subscriptions - that will kill the idea, people HATE monthly fees. People would rather pay 500 bucks upfront than 10 bucks a month for a year. Think of the channel as a form of advertising. Have publishers pay to have their latest demo broadcast. Hell, you could piggyback the demos on G4 or TechTV or something, come up with a standard so that you could broadcast for different consoles and PCs...
Ah well, no point in getting all worked up about it. It'll be a long, long time before execs "get it". They're so horny over the idea of a constant, predictable revenue stream that subscriptions offer, they cant see straight. Xbox live is tanking, as will Phantom, as will the uber-mega-next-gen-only-5$-a-month-for blah blah scheme.
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I'm running WinXP and using IE to browse the site. So I want to download the video and I get prompted to install an ActiveX object... umm... NO! Its just downloading a video and we have HREF tags for that. There is no way in hell I am trusting some company I have never even heard of to install an ActiveX object. So blow me Phantom!
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It's simple.
Quote specs and buzzwords till you're blue in the face. Only a handful of nerds and fanboys care.
The games have to be there. The games aren't there for xbox - MSFT has failed it.
I own all three consoles. Generally in the PS2 or NGC scenes, there's a new "big game" every month or so. One day people are all jazzed about GTA3, the next all jazzed about FFX, the next all jazzed about Devil May Cry. Same for NGC - today its Zelda, tomorrow Wario or Metroid, etc, etc..
Contrast with Xbox, which has been milking Halo since it's release date. Yeah, Halo was a fine game, but did they think it would hold my attention for two years until Halo 2? The games I listed for PS2 are all now sold as the "classic/platinum whatever" titles, you can get DMC or FFX for 19.99 - cool! Halo? Nope, not a classic - still 50 bucks almost two years later.
Who'd have thunk that success in the game industry would be about the games? Not Microsoft, thats for sure.
(Now fanboys can flame away about the other 3 or 4 decent xbox games - my point stands, the ratio of good xbox games to good ps2 games is about 1:1000, and much of the good PS2 games are cheep cheep because they're yesterdays news)
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Well, extra hard drive space would be fine since it wouldn't really affect performance. I remember the N64 had a 4meg expansion pack that would give nicer textures in some games. If I recall correctly it didn't do well. Maybe they would have the games choose its own display setting based on amount of ram installed. Seems a bit silly.
Slashdotter are stupid and biased.
Remember that? Bit Boys Glaze3D was promised to be the Voodoo2 killer, then TNT2 killer. They released outrageous benchmarks and cool screenshots, photos of the chip, specs etc. In the end they had NOTHING at all.
Yeah thats what this is. BS
It pretty much the same thing "It's comming!" "It's better!" "It's faster" "It's revolutionary!" "It'll change the world!" "It's ALMOST DONE!"
In the end it's all BS.
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They spelled [url="http://www.nvidia.com"]nVidia[/url] wrong in their video. Verified this in their windows 250k and 500k streams... haha... look for NVIDEA... its about 2:40 into the video... made by gamers? Not the video becasue a true gamer would know how to spell nVidia...
JOhn
Campaign for Liberty
Throughout all this sordid affair, I've found one thing more shocking than the actual company and it's non-existent product.
Huge gaming sites are surprisingly tolerant of it.
So far, the only people who've flat out said "This thing is a joke, a lie to sucker stupid venture capitalists out of their money with flashy marketing for a product that doesn't exist" is Penny Arcade. I just don't see with so much evidence against them that people aren't flat out saying "We refuse to cover this. We're not stupid enough to give you what you want, the hype you can use to steal even more money". If all these huge sites collectively decided to stop covering this "company" and its "product" until they provide some *solid, concrete reason* to give them coverage, maybe they would finally just fade out of existence, like all the other companies this shmuck has been a part of.
* - These reasons would have to include a working prototype and an actual business plan rather than a business theory.
Why is everyone suddenly called XYZ Labs? When I hear that I get the impression of lots of guys in white lab coats and I'm pretty sure thats not whats going on with these guys.
The best way to read the NewsForge article is that Tim Roberts trolled Roblimo. I'm impressed ... trolls, take note.
Read the HardOCP article first, then the NewsForge article. When Roblimo said, "He's renting high-end office space in Sarasota, Florida," soda nearly went shooting out of my nose. (I won't spoil it for you, read the articles.)
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If the [your favorite old system here] came back out today, I would go get one. Why? Not because the graphics are particularly good, but because the games are really fun! That's what a game system is for... fun games. If the graphics are great... great. If not, who cares? I just want to have fun. Mario will never die!
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The hype was simply to trick gamers into providing their e-mail address in the beta test application so they could sell the list to spammers.
That's my prediction anyway.
Wait wait - so you're telling me that the X-Box live is a portal for FIFTEEN games - and it's ALMOST as popular as ONE PC GAME?
Wow, it must be doing AWESOME. That sure teaches me.
Asshat.
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When I read the Hardocp article, I kept thinking that this is like something out of some heist movie. The guy's life is just too fictional in quality to beleive. Going from one failure to the next but still staying one step ahead of people catching onto the fact that all he is is a con man. wild stuff.
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When and if it does get released, it'll be hacked into a Linux or *BSD box so fast.
Hell, buy about 100 of them and you'll have an impressive server farm.