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Privacy International Internet Censorship Report

eric434 writes "The Register reports that Internet restrictions, government secrecy and communications surveillance have reached an unprecedented level across the world, from 9/11-inspired Patriot-esque laws to national internet filtering and corporate abuse of the legal system. Summarizing the Privacy International report, it's quite evident that we've not only approached but started down a slippery slope. In the words of Simon Davies (director of Privacy Intl.), 'The report sounds a warning that we must move quickly to preserve the remaining freedoms on the Internet before they are systematically extinguished.'"

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  1. SPAM Laws by bigjocker · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That's why I oppose solving the Spam problem using laws and politics. We should oppose those laws as we opose any law that tries to control or censor any other area of the internet. How long until any of the Spam laws are used against the Net?

    The Spam problem is a technical one, and as such should be solved technically. Somebody once compared a political solution to the spam problem with the laws that make you use the seat belt, but this is not the same case. There are no rightful uses for crashing your car when not whearing a seat belt, but there are rightful uses for some mass e-mails (distribution lists, discussion groups, legally registered advertisement, etc).

    The current system is flawed. Blame it on the SMTP protocol or the administrators that use it without knowing it. There lies the problem and there it should be solved. There are great proposals for solving this (digital certificates or pgp signatures at the transport layer, etc), and I (as many of us are) am willing to adopt any new technology that should solve this problem, if it is incompatible with the current email technology, well, bad luck, somewhere the first step must be taken. Look at IPV6.

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    1. Re:SPAM Laws by proj_2501 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It all depends on whether the marketplace digs in or not.

      We could easily phase in a mailsystem that's much less prone to abuse than SMTP.
      But will anyone use it?

    2. Re:SPAM Laws by lommer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The Spam problem is a technical one, and as such should be solved technically.

      No. This argument is made frequently on slashdot, and I am thouroghly (sp?) convinced that it is wrong. While the problem of spam may have technical aspects it is a different problem. Spam is a moral problem - it is a case of a select few people abusing a system for their own profit, thereby ruining the effective usefulness of the system for others. One persons right to infringe upon the rights of another in all other aspects of our society is primarily governed by laws, and I see no reason why the spam problem should not be either. Granted there are legitamite uses, and therefore such legislation must be careful to take these into account. However, this is an almost guaranteed certainty, given the current complexity of the legal system, adding such exemptions, checks and balances would be no problem - in fact it would be considered neccesary by many legal and constitutional experts.

      Opting for a purely technical solution has problems of its own. We have already seen some attempts at technical stopgap measures designed to stem the flood of UCE, but these have generally just resulted in an escalation in the tactics of spammers (e.g. faking return addresses, using trojan horses to create relays, etc.)

      The problem of spam is NOT a technical one. It is a moral one and its solution therefore lies in the legal system.

  2. just a quick comment by Shymon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    first off, no i haven't read the thing yet, just felt the need to say something on the whole privacy on the net thing. There will always be a balance between safety and freedom. in this case that freedom being our privacy. with absolute privacy any number of bad things can arise that we didn't intend. for example truly anonymous file servers could distribute kiddy porn or credit card and social security numbers at will, after all with perfect privacy there would be no way to trace them. and also having no privacy is also a very bad idea for reasons to obvious to state. so the balance is somewhere in the middle and, as i understand it from the article summary, it is simplu shifting in the direction of less privacy. what we really have to ask is if we want this greater safty at the cost of some of our privacy? which is most definately not a cut and dry problem in and of itself. so sorry about not having a factoid about some part of the article but i just wanted a balanced counterpoint to the inevitable bashing of the loss of privacy on the net.

  3. Abuse of the Legal System by ratamacue · · Score: 4, Interesting
    corporate abuse of the legal system

    Remember, corporations only abuse the legal system because they can. The root of the problem is government, and the fact that government has the ability to continuously expand government year after year without limit. The bigger the government, the more complex, ambiguous, and exploitable the law. The solution is to eliminate the powers of government that make it possible -- not to expand government even more via regulation, taxing, etc (all of which are guaranteed to be exploited too). We need to impose strict limits on the scope and expense of government, or the system will continue to be exploited by its very nature.

  4. I just don't totally agree by cavemanf16 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While there may have been all kinds of laws enacted that are pretty ridiculous, there will eventually be an equilibrium reached that is close to fair, but never perfectly fair for those involved. What I mean to say is that the "Internet" and its use will be regulated, there's no if's, and's, or but's about it. Everything gets regulated. Which is why I think humanity is always pushing forward to explore the next frontier, be it in medicine, robotics, communications, travel, etc.

    Think of some of the first automobiles. Flimsy, worked only part of the time, accident prone, unsafe, etc. and yet Americans and indeed the world embraced the new technology of the 'horseless' carriage with gusto once Henry Ford introduced a cheap way to manufacture and build them so that the masses could use them. The world economy benefitted from this new technology immensely.

    Yeah, some of our "freedoms" on the Internet have eroded TOO much, but eventually some semblance of order will be acheived, and off us techies and 'explorers' will go to challenge the Next Big Thing.

    I think this fundemental idea is why the Star Trek series has been so popular: it focuses on that "explorer" spirit. While most of the acting is corny at best, and some of the scripts downright absurd, we're drawn to "exploring the new frontier" theme.

    I, for one, welcome our new regulatory overlords.

  5. Re:Natural by spektr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It is only natural that there will be increased monitoring, considering that the Internet could be used to hatch plans. Monitoring is necessary at least to a limited extent, but there should be a lot more checks and balances on making sure these are not used for Orwellian purposes.

    I wonder what the right-wing people who praise the right to own guns as a means to overthrow an oppressive government do think about this. I disagree strongly with these people, but hadn't they to agree that the citizens would need weapons of information warfare, too? E.g. the right of absolute privacy through encryption to organize resistance against the government if this should be necessary?

  6. Re:Natural by Smallpond · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ummm.. warrant? judge? 4th amendment to the US Constitution prohibiting unreasonable search and seizure?

    If John Ashcroft wants to get a warrant every time he asks for my library records or to monitor my email, I'm all in favor. Let him.

    The name Patriot Act is kind of ironic, since the American Patriots were the people who rebelled against an overly repressive regime.

  7. Not surprising. by freidog · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The government inevitably wants to control information. Well, i should say everyone wants to control it (i want everything written/said about me to be glowing and wonderful, don't you?), the government just has the power to do so.

    Today the 'free' western governmnets want to monitor people who visit web sites that encourage, or assist in 'terrorism.' (as defined by the government)
    Tommorrow, in the instrest of national security those same sites will be 'restricted access only.'
    After all, the leap from monitoring information (in this case those who view it) to restricting it is a short one.

    And then we've started down that slipperly slope between free exchange of ideas and security, and with all that is happening in the world, the government might have the people just scared enough to follow them down it.

  8. Your balance is a dangerous one. by lysium · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I can meet someone at a diner, and swap porn and credit card numbers to my hearts content. Should resturant booths come equipped with audio/visual recorders to protect against this threat?

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  9. Privacy, since when? by Richthofen80 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't remember ever clicking the EULA for the internet's privacy. I think that's because it doesn't exist.

    Internet access is something you buy. You don't have any privileges except for the ones extended to you by your ISP. If your ISP agrees to monitor/share/provide information, well, its no different than the post office giving your address to the FBI, or the RMV. If I own a small business and the FBI/CIA/FDA wants to know if John Doe was there, and what he bought, I'll let them know. The same process is true of the net. Suspcious activity is reported. That's the way it goes.

    Internet access is not anonymous. STILL.

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  10. Privacy Overrated by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't care if everyone knows what I ate yesterday, or where I went, or who I fucked, or how much money I have.

    I DO care if I don't know these things about anyone else, but some organization with goals I'm unaware of knows them about me and everyone else.

    We don't need privacy, and frankly, we don't have it. What we need is transparency. Transparency leads to knowledge, wisdom, justice and tolerance. Monitoring by secret organizations, however, leads to ignorance, injustice, control, and fear.

    If you're fighting for privacy, you're fighting the wrong fight.

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